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  1. President Barack Obama is shaping up to be one of the greatest if not THE greatest Presidents of the United States ever.
    I expected great things from this man and so far i have not been disappointed. If he gets the economy sorted, they will probably make him president for life.

    Mind you if a hamster were president it would look great after the moron who was in power for the previous two terms.

  2. Mihangel apYrs 16 Apr 2010, 2:43pm

    1 this only applies to hospitals receiving medicare, medicaid,

    2 various federal organisations are fighting, even against the courts the introduction of “spousal” benefits for SSCs

    3 DOJ is fighting a vicious rearguard action supporting DOMA

    4 Defence is equivocating about removal of DADT

    but he did manage to get ENDA through.

    Not a very good record nearly 16 months into a 48 month tenure, especially since the Dems are expected to lose seats in November thus removing the likelihood of any more legislation in LGBT favour.

    He’s likely to be a one-termer: his reputation is getting shredded daily by many liberal commentators, and not just on lgbt issues..

  3. “President Barack Obama is shaping up to be one of the greatest if not THE greatest Presidents of the United States ever.”
    Use your brain, Obama hasn’t done anything for us
    He hasn’t even repealled DOMA, someone else is doing it for him!
    He’s making empty promises he will never fulfill

    Some hospitals will recognise same sex partners, not all
    Gordon Clown did more for gay rights in a month than Obama has in his whole time as present (and i don’t like that jug-eared Gordo)

  4. “President Barack Obama is shaping up to be one of the greatest if not THE greatest Presidents of the United States ever.”
    Use your brain, Obama hasn’t done anything for us
    He hasn’t even repealled DOMA, someone else is doing it for him!
    He’s making empty promises he will never fulfil

    Some hospitals will recognise same sex partners, not all
    Gordon Clown did more for gay rights in a month than Obama has in his whole time as present (and i don’t like that jug-eared Gordo)

  5. Finally! It’s about time something good happened around here.

  6. I don’t think this amounts to being treated the same way as a heterosexual husband and wife.

    The time when you need to take medical decisions for your partner is generally when he or she is unconscious or unable to take their own decisions. If someone is in that kind of state, how are they going to choose who can visit them and make decisions for them?

    In fact, having to specify that your partner can make medical decisions on your behalf is the exact of opposite of being treated like a married heterosexual couple where there is no need to specify or write or say anything as you are automatically deemed to be able to take decisions for your spouse. I think that’s the whole difference…

    It’s a nice gesture from Obama but he’s made a very specific promise about civil unions. I hope he’ll come down to that item on his agenda at some point.

  7. mihangel apYrs….Obama hasn’t pushed ENDA through, its still lingering and waiting to come to the floor for a vote.

    Val, this president is not for full marriage equality so he’s not that progressive. He’s done virtually NOTHING for the gay community in America of any significance. Gays are still barred from serving openly in the military and they’re still being discharged because of it.

  8. Thomas, FloriDuh, USA 16 Apr 2010, 5:36pm

    This crumb is better than nothing but pretty darned close. President Obama has been a huge disappointment to America’s gay community. Huge.

  9. The whingers are out in force as usual…………What did Doubua do in right years?

  10. #9 c: eight years

  11. Mihangel apYrs 16 Apr 2010, 6:35pm

    thanks Bob71350, I try to keep abreast of US developments, but there’s a lot going on!

    So one more strike against im

  12. Mihangel apYrs 16 Apr 2010, 6:38pm

    Patrick

    everyone knew that the Shrub was our enemy; Obama made out that he was our friend.

    The cnuts of this world I despise, from my friends I expect cetain qualities, and it hurts when they turn out to be cnuts.

    It’s like being cheated on

  13. While it may not cover all hospitals, please allow me to put an example of what Medicaid and Medicare are in America:
    “Medicaid is the United States health program for eligible individuals and families with low incomes and resources.”
    and
    “Medicare is a social insurance program administered by the United States government, providing health insurance coverage to people who are aged 65 and over, or who meet other special criteria.”
    Thus meaning that if that hospital ever recieved a payment from either of these two government health helps, then they must allow this equalizing health care rights.
    I’m hoping most hospitals have at some point had to take one of these groups, but is is not a coverall. Many places also do not wish to take medicare and medicaid due to the low re-embursement levels. Good first step, but we have to keep asking for more.

    And while not an excuse, at least Obama believes in something. That Huckabee that ran as well, a republican, just recently compared our relationships to incest and polygamy (can they ever think up something original?). Oh, and the reaction of republicans is to tell us that children “aren’t puppies”. Yeah… we can improve, but at least there was no more backwardsness.

    (though George Bush did do a lot of AIDS related things, I’ve heard, but many do not realize this. To find a little gem in it, even if I will not support him).

  14. Patrick James 17 Apr 2010, 7:31pm

    Patrick writes:

    President Barack Obama is shaping up to be one of the greatest if not THE greatest Presidents of the United States ever.

    Yes, he is marvellous.

    Closer to home people in civil partnerships or married might be interested in this campaign:

    Don’t Judge My Family

  15. Mihangel apYrs 17 Apr 2010, 9:43pm

    Patrick James

    marrieds and CPs get a reduced per head pension and reduced benefits if either is seeking work etc.

    The licence brings benefits but it does make each legally and fiscally joinrd to the other. Cohabitation can adversely affect benefits if the govt can show a financial element to the relationship but not necessarily.

    If people don’t want a legal and state recognised relationship they can’t complain if the state doesn’t recognise it in other cases.

  16. David in Indy 18 Apr 2010, 7:08am

    I voted for Obama. I’m not sure I’ll vote for him again in 2012 though. He’s been amazingly disappointing thus far. We’ll see. He still has another two and a half years to prove himself before his ass is grass.

  17. Bill Perdue 19 Apr 2010, 11:54am

    Patrick is clearly delusional. Even Time Magazine, the leading voice of right centrists describe Obama as ‘A Very Tolerant, Very Rational-Sounding Sort of Bigot’

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/michael-m-bates/2008/12/19/time-obama-very-tolerant-very-rational-sounding-sort-bigot#ixzz0lXZFvoV5

    Obama is a political clone of Bill Clinton, the bigot who gave us DOMA and DADT. Obama takes a slightly different approach than Bush did because he wants our money and votes as well as the money and votes of christer bigots, particularly those of the southern baptists, the child boy rapist cult and the mormons.

    Bush’s bigotry was much more honest.

    The centerpiece of Obama’s campaign was an attempt to steal christer votes from the Republicans and he made serious inroads that helped sweep the Republicans out of power.

    Obama isn’t worse than Bush but he’s not particularly better. The response in very wide layers of LGBT communities in the US is to boycott funding for the Democrats. How that will translate in terms of independent political action remains to be seen because the Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.
    Since his election Obama’s perused a policy of defending DADT and DOMA in the courts using vile bigoted remarks on three occasions and has apologized. We can expect more of the same.

    He remains pigheadedly opposed to same sex marriage – and for the same reasons other bigots do. He makes pretty noises about employment discrimination and the repeal of Clinton’s legacy of bigotry but refuses to organize campaigns around them.

    To balance that he invited us to two, count ‘em, two easter egg hunts on the WH lawn and made a few appointments, about the same number as Clinton a and few more than Bush. All the appointments are minor and you can count them without reference to your toes. Fingers will do.

    Before anyone gets too excited about Obama’s declaration, which was a small step forward, consider these points:

    1)The declaration about hospital visits is carefully worded to expire when he leaves office. It’s has no force of law and won’t be implemented for months. The child rapers are already up in arms so it may never be implemented.

    2)It addresses only one of 1,138 rights and privileges that straight married couples enjoy but which are denied us by federal law.

    3) It’s the beginning of the campaign season for mid-term elections and he wants money.

    4) Everyone is wondering what promise Obama and the Democrats will betray next. When it comes to GLBT equality their approach is one step forward and then retreat as far and as fast as they can so as not too appear to friendly to us. As if.

  18. Daniel Pitt 19 Apr 2010, 1:53pm

    Excellent news & not before time! Now repeal DOMA, overthrow Don’t Ask & make America to have a progressive president for the first time since JFK!

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