Vote Lib Dem
For years now the words ‘is expected’ have followed news reports about Conservative Party speeches and policy with regard to gay equality… what we don’t see very often is action… apart from:
1. The current shadow home secretary clearly stating he believes Christian business owners should have the legal right to refuse commercially advertised services to gay people.
(Note that gay people are the one and only group where this would be allowable according to this member of the Conservative front bench).
2. David Cameron allowing European Parliament UK Conservatives to create a far right ultra-antigay coalition with nationalists in Eastern Europe.
3. Have a consistent voting record across the elected representatives of the Conservative Party (for years and years) to either vote to block or reduce legislation that has created greater equality for gay people.
David Cameron is spin, SPIN AND YET MORE SPIN and then the spin just collapses… because actions speak louder than words…LOOK AT THE ACTIONS… LOOK AT THE FACTS.
“We’re fighting this election for the Great Ignored – young, old, rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight,”
Great news for Squidgy and his friends
Will David Cameron ignore demands for Chris Grayling’s resignation?
I bet he will.
Thanks to Tory, UKIP and BNP MEPs Britain is <b<the only EU member state with more MEPs voting against women’s equality than in favour of it. So much for the modern Conservative party.
Not holding my breath for gender variant, bisexual, disabled or those with different or no religion.
Turn the law around. Don’t legislate for those who deserve equality…start with all people being equal and legislate for those who do not deserve it. It focuses the mind wonderfully
Vote Lib Dem.
Vote UKIP Or BNP the real choice for this country…they tell it as they see it. They get my vote.Ohhh and yes, just before you ask….i’m gay.
yea sure, I see you posting here all the time…. not!
It’s clear that the best choice for LGBT equality is the Lib Dems. We have the longest and proudest history and the best and brighest future. We’re also the party who got it right on the economy and listen to people on the street who want more money in their pocket during a recession to help stimulate growth.
It doesn’[t mean a thing unless it can miraculously change the Tory’s voting records. No amount of lies will change homophobic votes and policy
Masochists are everywhere now, aren’t they?
I’m going to vote LibDem.
A message to David Chameleon, the leader of the old Etonian schoolboys. Nothing that you do will rid your party of the reek of homophobia. Your left and right arms are homophobic. Your head, your top, your bottom, your north, south, west and east are too.
Cash Gordon: “We’re fighting this election for the Great Ignored – young, old, rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight.”
Well that covers everybody and nobody. Pandering to the outcasts and pissy swing votes as usual. How about actually fighting for a country across the board? I’m sick of f_cking minorities, (including gay ones). Does being gay preclude you from being a tax-paying resident of this country?
What about actually fighting for the majority for once?
Oops. My mistake. Cameron said it. Still, same answer applies.
Why do you think those people were ignored in the first place?
Sounds like what President Obama told Americas’s gays… Pretty words with nothing of substance. However, unlike your American counterparts you all have options other than the voting for pretty words…
he can kiss my ass, does he think we have forgotten the damage done to our rights the last time his party were in power
Gays who vote Tory are simply capital STUPID.
The dangers of intolerance we already know. Statistics show that more of you will be maimed, more of you will be killed once homophobia becomes more tolerated, that will be the result. David Cameron won’t do more than burping to defuse the damage.
And they’ll ignore gay and homophobic abuse complaints, that will be the law of the land. They will simply ignore you, because that’s how it was just a few years ago, for those of you who can remember. Laws protecting gays will be ammended to give more tolerance to those who use religion to discriminate, and you’ll be left talking to your hand.
So Brown is off to see the Queen this morning! May 6, is it.
Hello frenetic campaigning!!!
Bring it on.
Damage limitation wont work David. We all know what you really think of millions of gay people.
Labour have made a mess, but they have also done a lot of good. Do you think the Tories would have allowed civil partnerships or brought in a minimum wage level? I dont think so! Lets not forget the recession is global and not all Browns fault.
Nothing, repeat nothing, would ever lead me to vote Tory. They have no instinct to promote or even try to protect our human rights. Actions speak louder than words and their actions scream “homophobia”. You only have to see the reactions of Mail on Sunday readers to the Grayling gaffe to understand how easily we could return to the dark days of discrimination under the Tories.
Don’t vote Tory. Vote Lib Dem!
Unfortunately voting for Lib Dem would be an ideal choice, Ok in Cornwall were they have a majority, not elsewhere in the country , one must remember that David Cameron is responsible to the 1932 committee of his party and as stated in a letter to the Guardian whilst DC is speeding along on his bike, the antiquated echelons of his party are following in their car and will no doubt run over him. The Conservatives have idly stood by complaining of Mr Brown’s handling of the economy, which is a Worldwide economic trauma, they will say anything to get into power and if they do, we believe our new found rights mostly introduced from EU constitution will flounder as Conservative MEP’S continually vote against Women and Gay Rights in Europe.
What about actually fighting for the majority for once? says Rob N
Not when it means kicking minorities in the guts, like the Tories did last time. But frankly, they only really have their own minority interests at heart: the tax-dodging rich.
Actions speak – words are irrelevant.
Labour: Repealed Section 28, Equality Bill, Civil Partnerships, reduction in age of consent in line with hetrosexuals, equality in fertility treatment for Lesbians, equality in adoption….
Conservative: Introduced Section 28, Opposed an amendment to the Human Rights Act that would have protected homosexuals and people with HIV against discrimination in housing and employment.
Refused to support gay equality with regard to partnership rights, military service, sexual offences, fostering and adoption, hate crimes and protection against discrimination.
The Conservative voting record is clear:
There isn’t anything Mr Cameron can say now which will save him. With 3-6 million votes LGBT should send a clear message – a message all parties will understand.
If you don’t want to vote Labour, then vote LibDem. An outline is here:
Their history on Gay rights is here:
Other useful links
I will vote LibDem or Labour – whoever has the greatest chance of keeping the Tories out. I vote primarily on the Gay issue because all of them sort out the economy – they don’t have a choice. I prefer LibDems because, for example, I do believe Trident should be scrapped. For me it’s a very clear choice – the Tories will want to take away my rights to be treated as equal to everyone else – that is unacceptable. Also, Mr Cameron has ducked the Chris Grayling issue. He should have been sacked or moved – and he should have sent out a clear message that Chris Grayling’s words were totally unacceptable. He ducked it. Ergo he condones it.
Majorities have a responsibility to protect minorities, otherwise is just a case of a majority bullying minorities and saying “we don’t want your kind around here, be like us or get out”.
His speech will be attacked within this thread Whatever he says, most of you are kind of predictable. I on the other am still keeping an open mind. I will vote for whoever speaks clearly for my needs and vote accordingly.
They have 30 days to convince Me to vote for them.
Am Really sick of people here thinking they have the right to tell people who to vote for.
YOU DON’T – end of!
You’ve made you choice, fair enough that it exactly what it is Your choice. Everyone else has the Very same right to choose for themselves.
Just presenting the facts. My position has always be clear. I will vote against any party which votes against me. In this case the empirical evidence shows that the Tory part have voted against my rights, against all Gay people, time and again.
Nobody is telling anyone they must vote any particular way, just presenting the facts from my point of view. The point is some people might not know the facts. There is a lot of spin right now and people need to have access to the truth. Peace and Love.
“I vote primarily on the Gay issue because all of them sort out the economy – they don’t have a choice.”
I’m so happy – the end of new Liebour is only 28 days away! Hurrah.
When Brown goes to see Queeny this morning I hope she gives him a really good kicking for the damage he’s inflicted on us – a foretaste of the absolute drubbing he’s going to get in the election.
“”We’re fighting this election for the Great Ignored – young, old, rich, poor, black, white, gay, straight”
I see I’m not the only one who heard Obama’s election speech?
“the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled”
m-m, I should think the pope would vote for Cameron…think of the photo shoot in September…m-m.
Interesting you picked this up being that you put “If you don’t want to”. What you put suggests not commands.
Others just put “Do Not” or “Don’t Vote..”
It’s not their place to say it.
As for voting, I will listen to each party and I will choose from that. I just can’t keep living in the past. Yes so-an-so did that and so-an-so did this. I need the now, the present. I’ll listen to all parties (not just the 3) and decide from that.
I think I know where my cross is going but the next 30 days They’ll have to convince me.(As in not you lot!! lol)
I just can’t do that. Sure gay issues are important but they are Just part of a list of what’s important. It’s all very well saying they’ve all got to sort the economy but it How they sort it thats important.
Guys, WHATEVER soap Call-Me-Dave peddles in this upcoming speech, REMEMBER the truth and reality of his skin-deep attitude to we gays and lesbians as revealed in that Gay Times video of last week, and REMEMBER what his senior party member Chris Grayling has said: that in his view businesses should have THE RIGHT TO TURN GAYS, LESBIANS, (in fact any sort of “deviants”) AWAY like unwanted dogs.
DON’T FORGET THAT.
And remember how cunning and manipulative these public-school boys are, and how desperate they are to get into power. And don’t forget that Call-Me-Dave has chosen to live his life prior to becoming a Tory politician as an upmarket Super-Salesman. WE CANNOT BELIEVE SALESMEN.
1. The Tories are in an alliance in Europe with the far-right, homophobic Law and Justice Party.
2. Under a Tory government the Home Secretary would support the right of commercial businesses to discriminate against gay people.
3. Under a Tory government Iain Duncan Smith would be in charge of families. He wants to reduce the rights of non-biological gay parents.
4. The Tories in Europe are vile homophobes. And David Cameron has admitted he does not control them.
5. The Tories record on voting for gay issues is utterly abysmal.
6. The Tories want to massively increase spending on ‘faith schools’.
7. The Tories support the religious exemption from equality laws (have a look at number 6 again)
8. The Tories are opposed to legal equality for gay relationships.
The Tories are a homophobic party despite their spin pretending they are not the reactionary bigots they have always been.
(respects to original poster.)
Also remember Call-Me-Dave’s ACTUAL track record, as printed recently in “The Times”.
A Timeline of David Cameron’s Gay Rights Hokey-Cokey
1999 Shaun Woodward, a Conservative frontbencher, is sacked by William Hague for refusing to back the party’s stance that Section 28 should not be repealed. The controversial legislation banned local authorities from promoting homosexuality in schools. Mr Woodward quits the party, leaving the safe Tory seat of Witney available.
2000 David Cameron is chosen as the Tory candidate for Witney and on the campaign trail he attacks both Mr Woodward, in a letter to The Telegraph, and Tony Blair for their pro-gay rights approaches.
He told the local paper: “The Blair government continues to be obsessed with their fringe agenda, including deeply unpopular moves like repealing Section 28 and allowing the promotion of homosexuality in schools. . . Blair has moved heaven and earth to allow the promotion of homosexuality in schools”.
2003 Once he is elected MP, Mr Cameron votes against the Labour Government’s repeal of Section 28 in the House of Commons.
2005 By the autumn of 2005, Mr Cameron is elected party leader and he tells the BBC that he is pleased that Section 28 has been abolished.
“At the end of the day, one section of our community did feel discriminated against by Section 28, and so I’m glad on that basis that it’s gone,” he says.
2008 He then puts his credentials as a modernising politician on hold by voting against a law making it easier for lesbian couples to receive IVF treatment. He sides with the right of his party saying that the issue goes to the heart of his message that Britain’s society is broken.
2009 Mr Cameron appears at a gay pride event and apologises for the Tory record on Section 28. “Yes, we may have sometimes been slow and, yes, we may have made mistakes, including Section 28, but the change has happened,” he says.
2009 Two months later, Tory MEPs refuse to back a cross-party European Parliament vote to condemn a homophobic law passed in Lithuania
2010 In an interview with gay magazine Attitude, he criticises the Church of England over its attitudes to homosexuality, calling for it to accept equal rights for gays.
Imagine that we let the Tories back into power. Imagine the day you hear on the news that they have repealed certain pieces of Equality legislation so that from then on ANY businessman or business-woman may legally slam the door in YOUR face all because they PERCEIVE you as being a queer.
I’ve heard it said that the economic powers of the world are way beyond the politicians of any particular country.
And then there’s the asylum issue… so important for us.
F*** off Cameron – you spineless, lying hypocrite.
Are the discriminatory homophobes Chris Grayling and Iain Duncan Smith still on your front bench?
If so then quite simply Call Me Dave is lying.
Then again the old Etonian Cameron used to work in PR. He earned his living as a professional liar before he continued his career as a professional liar in politics
Immigration is already a hot issue; it’s about to get a whole lot hotter:
David Cameron just removed us from his list. He failed to mention Gays, as advertised. Must have just decided the game was up and he couldn’t go on like this any more – had to be honest. He’s a homophobe through and through.
He’s just made the speech. All the faces behind him were young, black or asian (how cheap!) He didn’t mention gay people once.
The great Ditherer has taken a break from wrecking our economy to announce the end of his unelected dictatorship.
Bye bye Brown. Bye bye new liebour sleaze. Bye bye incompetence!
I wonder what happened. Pink News got it wrong. Anyone know when, if ever, Cameron will answer the questions we put to him?
You should probably update this to say that he didn’t mention gay voters at all!
Here’s how Cameron will react to your comments (facts):
Surely it’s PinkNews that’s in the wrong here for spectulating rather than waiting and reporting what was said.
“….. it is understood he will say” is appalling. Thats not knowing what the speech says that’s predicting it.
Still I guess it gives some of you yet another excuse to laying something whilst in fact being given the wrong information.
Here’s an interesting site to get All future MPs to clean up Lobbying!!
the parties release copies of speeches in advance to make sure they get in the media; in this case for whatever reason Cameron departed from the issued script.
PinkNews didn’t speculate, it was wrong footed. The article above explains more
Call-Me-Dave departed from his original script because he KNOWS that “the great ignored”, as he has put it, will count for more votes than us queers!
His strategy is to get the votes of the great massive swathes of homophobic bigots in this country and then try and soft-soap as many of us as he can later on.
Do NOT vote Tory.
Well he didn’t – surprise surprise backing out of promises and pledges before the election is 24 hours long!
Stop this repeat of history happening – Vote Labour or Lib Dem to keep gay ‘near-equality’ alive
The Grayling story needs to be looked at in context. His record on equality voting is sound.
There is a difference between passing the Law ( which he helped to do) and how it is applied.
Not every person who as unlawful sex with a 15 year old is proscuted.
Not everyone caught with cannabis is prosecuted.
Not eveyone who evades immigration controls is prosecuted and deported.
Not eveyone who falsely fills in a mortgage application form is prosecuted ( ring any bells?)
All Grayling was actually suggesting was that someone who has a genuine religious difficulty with gay lifestyle might have a similar discretion exercised in their favour when it comes to offering hospitality in their own home.
“Same old Tories” say some. Hmmm…. Non doctrinaire, not inflexible, ready to decide on a common sense case by case pragmatic basis – this is the kind of thing that most of us find re-assuring. Zealotry of evey stripe in unappealing.
When will call me ‘Dave’ get around to answering the questions he asked us for?
Or is it a case of a lack of substance from ‘Dave’ and Tories? He never had any intention of answering us, he just wanted to be seen doings something LGBT related!
Tories promise you the world but intend to give you nothing!