“Ben Summerskill, Stonewall chief executive, added: “Hate crime and the fear of hate crime overshadow the lives of too many lesbian, gay and bisexual people in Britain. We hope this guide will encourage more people to report anti-gay hate crime, and will help the police to respond and target their work more effectively.” ”
Now I realise that Stonewall specifically chooses not to represent trans people (for reasons best known to Stonewall). But really – in this instance Summerskill should have had the decency to include the trans population here. The guidelines would have been the same.
Then again what else can one expect from the homophobes at Stonewall.
Stonewall is opposed to same sex couples being allowed to access the legal contract of civil marriage because of their sexual orientation.
They are completely lacking in legitimacy and do not state clearly enough that they represent nobody but their 20,000 supporters.
Time to disband Stonewall – the homophobia and transphobia of your organisation makes it not fit for purpose.
I second Simon here, at least in this crucial respect; why does Stonewall so frequently omit mention of trans people in its campaigning and advocacy?
Has anyone in Stonewall ever accounted for this fact?
Well done Stonewall – Keep up the Excellent work you do!
“Well done Stonewall – Keep up the Excellent work you do! ”
Opposing legal equality for same sex couples and ignoring the trans population?
With ‘friends’ like Stonewall, who needs enemies?
‘Launching the guide in central London today, home secretary Alan Johnson said: “It’s unacceptable that anyone should live in fear of attack and abuse simply because of who they are.’
Unless. ofcorse, they’re Trannies.
Fvck off Stonewall.
SimonM you are total Stonewall bore. Stonewall UK was formed by a bunch of pissed of queens who were opposed to Section 28. You are obviously pissed at Stonewall so here’s a suggestion – start your own advocacy group and stop with the tedious posts every time the word Stonewall appears.
Stonewall Scotland includes trans folk within it’s remit, if you want to see the same change in the UK then advocate for it to Stonewall or again go do your own thing.
Sick and tired of you arm chair critics…
“You are obviously pissed at Stonewall so here’s a suggestion – start your own advocacy group and stop with the tedious posts every time the word Stonewall appears.”
However I have to work for a living. I am not a ‘professional-gay’
The people at Stonewall earn their living from being gay.
Yet they cannot even support the idea of marriage equality in principle.
I could support Stonewall if they realised that blindly supporting the government line is not an effective means of advocacy.
It is worth repeatedly pointing out that Stonewall represent no-one but their own members.
Particularly as they are opposed to marriage equality for same sex couple, based solely on their sexual orientation.
Sorry if that bores you. The truth sometimes hurts though.
Incidentally last year saw a steep rise in homophobic hate crime. The government said this was possibly due to increased reporting of hate crime.
That may well be partly true.
Although my gut instinct that the levels of homophobic hate crime are rising steeply as well and it is not solely down to increased reporting.
Look at Pink News on a regular basis. There seems to be an increasing level of violence against the LGBT population – at least that’s what the reports and the ‘word on the street’ indicates.
I just hope that if the figures continue to rise that the government don’t try to avoid the issue by pretending that increased reporting of crime is the reason. This new Stonewall campaign will give them a ‘get out of jail for free’ card after all.
Stonewall always give The Government a ‘get out of jail free’ card, it’s their purpose in life.
“Stonewall always give The Government a ‘get out of jail free’ card, it’s their purpose in life”
Of course they do.
That’s where there funding comes from.
I’d like to see them release a similar booklet for up here in Scotland. Given we have different laws and an entirely seperate legal system, the booklet published by Stonewall is of no use up here.
I’d like to report horrendous anti-gay hate crimes in Iraq.
Ail Hili needs to travel.
Please sign this urgent petition:
I recently managed to get a preview of this weighty tome:
Page One: “Blow the whistle on gay hate – particularly if you are in skimpy shorts on a float in the middle of Gay Pride”
Page Two: “Q: People call me names, what should I do?
“A: Ignore them, and go get a life and a sense of humour, you big poof.”
Page Three: “Q: Large burly men are threatening to physically attack me. What should I do?”
“A: Oh, it’s you again. Run away.”
Page Four: Stonewall is a charitable organisation, and we directors receive very little funding for our arse licking. Ben is down to his last Ferrari. Please donate generously to protect shirtlifters and hairy women everywhere.
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As usual Rob N, your failed attempts at wit only show your total disrespect for those who have been attacked, killed and had the quality of their lives destroyed due to homophobic hate crime. Whether the booklet achieves its goals or not, at least its shows some people are trying to help LGBT people who have suffered at the hands of hate-filled bigots. What about you Rob? What possible good do you think you’re going to achieve by banging on about terrible you think gay people are, despite being gay yourself. Its not pointing out the flaws of the booklet, its just pathetic of you. If you hate being gay & hate other gay people (most of whom you’ve never met in your life) that much, then bugger off. We’ve got enough battles to contend with from bigots to be bothered with the pathetic likes of you.
Well done Stonewall
George: I certainly don’t hate myself, and I have no problem with people being gay. I am just sick of people constantly banging on about how badly treated they are. Yes, there are cases where the homophobia is intolerable and should be tackled, but as long as people witter on about something as trivial as a politician referring to them as “limp-wristed”, then nobody is going to take the real stuff seriously.
No 15: George: you say:
“Whether the booklet achieves its goals or not, at least its shows some people are trying to help LGBT people who have suffered at the hands of hate-filled bigots.”
I can guarantee that this booklet will achieve its goals.
The goal of the booklet is probably to allow the government to explain away the steep rise in violent attacks on LGBT people by saying ‘Oh the rise is as a result of the Stonewall campaign, it doesn’t mean attacks are on the rise’
RobN uses his usual offensive, charmless rhetoric in his post, but I can see his point.
This campaign is a bit of meaningless fluff. People are not stupid. If they are assaulted and their sexuality is the reason, then they do not need the government funded homophobes at Stonewall to tell them to report it.
This is a PR move.
Thanks to their opposisition to legal equality for same sex couples, Stonewall lacks the credibility to be trusted on this.
On behalf of whose agenda are they working? The governments? Or the LGB (but not T) population?
Methinks I saw that coming…
Dave North – Stonewall receives no public funding. If you don’t agree with them fine, go start your own advocacy group.
As for SimonM’s banging on about lack of legal equality for same sex couples, well the differences between marriage and civil partnerships are tiny: Marriages can be conducted by Church of England clergy without any civil preliminaries being required. Civil partnerships are only conducted by registrars. Big bloody deal.
Civil partnerships reflected the reality of the time of getting legislation through the Lords without the hot topic issue of religion entering our relationships – something most gay people on here don’t give a stuff about.
There are bigger issues in the world then Stonewall in terms of forces working for or against us….
Please sign the petition at comment #12