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  1. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 25 Mar 2010, 4:52pm

    I welcome that decision and I personally thank every single lawmaker on this issue. THANK YOU.

    Bermuda and Gilbralter still have a nasty, unequal and outdated age of [sexual] consent at 18 for gay men (while it is still 16 for lesbians and heterosexual males and females).

    I personally think that the age of sexual consent should have been raised for heterosexuals and lesbians from 16 to 18 – so it is then inline with the 18 for gay men.

  2. “I personally think that the age of sexual consent should have been raised for heterosexuals and lesbians from 16 to 18 – so it is then inline with the 18 for gay men.”


  3. Well, about time. Next, how about annexing this rump of the Duchy of Normandy to Parliamentary authority and make it obey the same laws as the rest of us?

  4. Ages of Gay Consent across Europe 25 Mar 2010, 6:18pm

    …and the ages of gay sexual consent across Europe are….

  5. Ages of Gay Consent across Europe 25 Mar 2010, 6:27pm

    The varying different European Ages of (Gay) Male Homosexual Ephebe Sexual Consent

    Albania is14,
    Andorra is 16,
    Austria is 14, a close-in-age exception of max. three years. otherwise16 years of age,
    Belarus is 16,
    Belgium is 16,
    Bosnia and Herzegovina is 14,
    Bulgaria is 14,
    Croatia is 14,
    Cyprus is 17,
    Czech Republic is 15,
    The Kingdom of Denmark is 15,
    Faroe Islands is 15,
    Estonia is 14,
    Finland is 16,
    France is 15,
    Georgia is 16,
    Germany is 14,
    Greece is 17,
    Hungary is 14,
    Iceland is 15,
    Ireland is 17,
    Italy is 14 years,
    Kosovo is 14,
    Latvia is 16,
    Lithuania is 14,
    Luxembourg is 16,
    Malta is 18,
    Moldovan varies between 14 and 16 years,
    Monaco is 15,
    Netherlands is 16,
    Norway is 16,
    Poland is 15,
    Portugal states 14,
    Romania is 15,
    Russia is 16,
    Serbia is 14,
    Slovakia is 15,
    Slovenia is 15,
    Spain is 13,
    Sweden is 15,
    Switzerland is 16,
    Turkey is the age of majority (set at 18,
    Ukraine is considered to be 16,
    England and Wales is 16,
    Scotland is 16,
    Northern Ireland is 16,
    Gibraltar at 18,
    Guernsey (a Crown Dependency including Alderney, Herm and Sark) is 16 (now),
    Isle of Man, a Crown Dependency, is 16,
    Jersey, a Crown Dependency, is 16,
    Vatican State is 12. When there is a relationship of dependence (like teacher/student, etc.) it is 15.

    (NB: Northern Cyprus sexual contact between males are punished with up to 5 years of imprisonment)

    Details believed correct

  6. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 25 Mar 2010, 6:55pm

    Dave 16 is too young in my opinion – so that is why the sexual age of consent should be 18 for everyone (regardless of sexual orientation or gender)!!!!!

  7. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 25 Mar 2010, 7:01pm

    12 in Vatican city – know I know why (it is because of peadophile Catholic priests hey?????)

    13 in Spain…

    WHAT THE HELL??????

    That age of consent is far far too low and deeply dangerous for children. And I thought that 16 was far too young????!!!!

    Now another reason why I deeply and personally justify the age of consent should be at 18 as a minimum for every individual.

  8. paul mitchell. you are an embarrassment. what is wrong with a 16 year old having sex. is your mother in the basement with a wig on?

  9. I hate the whole ramble about this age of consent issue. Its another form of dictatorship in its entirety. People develop at different level and should be allowed to have sex when they feel; not when government wants. Nonsense.

    The foolishness of it is that we all know that people still have sex even before these window-dressing ages.

    Repeal this laws, it is tyranical; it is dictative and not necessary. Parents should rather take active role in teaching sex & relationship so kids make the choices when they see fit. Mistakes wont ever be abolished nevertheless.

  10. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 26 Mar 2010, 3:52am

    Pinknews got it wrong again:

    This quote:

    “Homosexuality was illegal on the island until 18 years ago”.

    Actually male homosexuality was made legal or legalized in 1983 on Guernsey with the age of consent set at 21 inline with the rest of the UK – not 1992 (you are confusing it with the Isle of Man). In 1999 the age of consent was lowered to 18 also inline with the UK. Jersey did the same thing in 1990 set at 21 then in 1995 lowered the AOC to 18 (the AOC did not get equal at 16 in Jersey until 2007).

    In 1992 the Isle of Man during legalization set the age of consent at 21, then in 1997 lowered the AOC to 18 – then in 2006 lowered it again to 16 (inline with the rest of the UK).

    In 1967 Wales and England set the age of consent at legalization at 21. In 1994 the AOC got lowered to 18 – then finally in 2000 the AOC got lowered to 16 so that it was equal (including Northern Ireland and Scotland). In 1980 Scotland also did the same thing set at 21 during legalization, and then in 1995 got lowered to 18.

    Ireland (not part of the UK) has always had an equal age of consent during legalization back in 1993.

    Bermuda and Gibraltar still in 2010 have an unequal age of consent set at 18 for gay men (16 for lesbians and heterosexuals).

    Gibraltar laws unfortunately are not subject to Spanish law (they have there own dreadful “English imperial laws” or are self-governed in an area less the size of a suburb) and the European Court of Human Rights and opinions of the current attorney-General are seeking an opinion from the courts in Gibraltar. Spain should go to war with the UK and claim that it is their rightful territory so that the AOC can be equal at 13 and same sex marriage be ratified due to transitioning to Spanish law (they the Spanish had Gibraltar first since 1345)!!!!!!!

    Bermuda has no plans at all for the introduction to laws that fix up the AOC – so that it is equal at 16.

  11. Gay activist Paul Mitchell 26 Mar 2010, 4:11am

    Almost forgot –

    Northern Ireland legalized male homosexuality in 1982 with you guessed it 21. Then in 2000 the AOC got lowered to 17 (inline with lesbians and heterosexuals). In 2008 the equal age of consent at 17 for all got lowered to 16 so that it is inline with the rest of the UK.

    Now I know why the age of consent is set at 16 it makes perfect logical sense now – because it is about consistency between all UK self-governing parties that the age of consent be 16 (this is called “uniformity” under the Westminster system of governance!!!!!!

    Remember in all former British colonies (British empire) lesbianism was never illegal and only gay male sex was made a criminal offence back in 1886 (100 years before I was born in 1986) – and we all know why that was because of Queen Victoria believing in her quote “women do not do such things” [she was a lesbian, I bet 4000 pounds on it]

    There is an infamous saying:

    “The sun never sets on the British Empire!”

    SO TRUE.

  12. Rachel Titley 26 Mar 2010, 10:05pm

    @Paul: No, Spain should not reclaim Gibraltar, because the residents voted recently to remain part of Britain. Unlike the Argentinians (who are the ones actually laying claim to it) they got to choose who they’re ruled by.

    In other news, fantastic news for my favourite holiday destination.

  13. Paul Mitchell – This is inaccurate. Gay male sex defined as ‘sodomy’ was outlawed by statute centuries before in 1533 by Henry VIII as part of his efforts to replace Church authority with Crown authority as a prelude to the Royal Supremacy over the Church. It thus became subject to criminal penalty (actually death, at least in theory) for the first time instead of penance. Capital punishment for ‘sodomy’ was replaced by life imprisonment in the 1860s. The new law of the 1880s was in part a response to rising homophobic hysteria in Victorian society set off in part by such things as the ‘Cleveland Street Scandal’ about a male brothel. It was not actually necessary for prosecuting gay men, since ‘attempted sodomy’ had frequently been used before as a pretext for arresting gay men whether penetration had happened or not. The ‘Labouchere Amendment’ of 1885 reflected the new late 19th century obsession with homosexuality. The (then quite new) attempt to criminalize lesbians was a reflection of contemporary anxieties about women’s new demands for political and economic rights.
    In a broader context, it worth noting that homophobia rose steadily in Western societies from a fairly low base in the early Middle Ages. In c.1100 Henry I wanted to outlaw ‘sodomy’ and was advised against it by Anselm – Archbishop of Canterbury, no less! – who warned him that it would be ineffective because ‘Englishmen were unconcerned by such things.’ This is interesting evidence that our new Norman rulers were less tolerant than we Anglo-Saxons. How times change.

  14. @ Dave

    I’m a Balliwick of Guernsey resident (Alderney) and OK things happen a bit slower over here….they don’t even have a seat-belt law in Alderney and we still have pound notes!!
    We’ve been independent for just over 800 years so I don’t think we’re ready to bow down to the forces in Westminster just yet!
    Not one Deputy (MP)voted against the lowering the age of consent….can you say the sam about your MPs in Westminster?
    You can keep your Gordon Brown, high taxes, govenment debt, broken NHS, bowing down to the EU etc.

    Guernsey is by no means perfect but speaking for most of the folk over here, we’re happy as we are!!

  15. Gay Activist Paul Mitchell 12 Apr 2010, 8:36am

    Civil partnerships and adoption rights will be the next issues facing “heated debate” on Guernsey now, following the recent law changes on the gay male age of consent!!!!

    Also both the islands of Isle of Man and Jersey are currently having a “heated debate” on civil partnerships!!!!

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