Comments on: Christian registrar Lillian Ladele refused leave to appeal to Supreme Court http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/ News, reviews and comment from Europe's largest gay news service Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:21:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: John http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-182633 John Thu, 07 Apr 2011 06:24:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-182633 Leviticus 18:22 is "unnatural and very unhealthy": TEACHINGS OF THE ECOKOSHER REBBE – HOMOSEXUALITY & THE HEBREW BIBLE http://tiny.cc/kv8r8 “As a result of this serious research, Rabbi Steinberg-Caudill is completely convinced that THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXTS OF THE TORAH (the Hebrew Chumash – the Five Books of Moses) HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY CONCERNING HOMOSEXUALITY AS WE UNDERSTAND THE TERM “HOMOSEXUALITY” TO MEAN IN TODAYS WORLD! Sadly, the reality of our human history is that the texts of Leviticus (and Deuteronomy) which were utilized by the teachers and rabbis of the Jewish tradition to condemn homosexuality, were so employed under a direct and constant danger and THREAT from the dominant and controlling Christian governmental and ecclesiastical authorities who needed to have the "perceived" Jewish interpretation of the texts, as taught by the Jewish rabbinical authorities, to be in accordance with their own Christian commentaries and teachings on homosexuality..." Leviticus 18:22 is “unnatural and very unhealthy”:

TEACHINGS OF THE ECOKOSHER REBBE – HOMOSEXUALITY & THE HEBREW BIBLE http://tiny.cc/kv8r8
“As a result of this serious research, Rabbi Steinberg-Caudill is completely convinced that THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TEXTS OF THE TORAH (the Hebrew Chumash – the Five Books of Moses) HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY CONCERNING HOMOSEXUALITY AS WE UNDERSTAND THE TERM “HOMOSEXUALITY” TO MEAN IN TODAYS WORLD!

Sadly, the reality of our human history is that the texts of Leviticus (and Deuteronomy) which were utilized by the teachers and rabbis of the Jewish tradition to condemn homosexuality, were so employed under a direct and constant danger and THREAT from the dominant and controlling Christian governmental and ecclesiastical authorities who needed to have the “perceived” Jewish interpretation of the texts, as taught by the Jewish rabbinical authorities, to be in accordance with their own Christian commentaries and teachings on homosexuality…”

]]> By: Marcus Rose http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-160994 Marcus Rose Mon, 24 Jan 2011 00:36:40 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-160994 There is no organization or institute on earth that benefits the community more than the Christian faith. Have you heard of the Street Pastors giving backup to the Police helping to keeping our cities peaceful. I have good friends who spend time late Friday and Saturday nights in some of the most dangerous places helping drug addicts in our area, I support an organization called Teen Challenge that over a year changes the lives of many drug addicts and society dropouts, Not funded in any way by the Government because it is a Christian organization. Orphanages, Schools, Hospitals, youth clubs all over the world run and funded by Christians. The Salvation Army in about 127 countries. Church of England, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Free Evangelical to mention a few, all working hard in the UK and abroad. Most of the work done is done on a voluntary basis the rest is funded by Christians. At this point it has to be said; that homosexuality brings shock and sadness to most families. To some it brings shame. I have spoken to several mothers, whose son or daughter claims to be homosexual, and their first reaction has either been revulsion or sadness, but they have eventually come to a form of acceptance because they love their children. There is a difference between being judgmental and being honest. At the end of the day no one is perfect but most people know the true meaning of natural marriage. Homosexuality is unnatural and very unhealthy, you can love and care for your relatives of the same gender, and even your best friends without climbing into bed with them. We don’t need a great education to understand which parts of us are designed for what, and why. Marriage and sex isn’t something to play with; it has a serious purpose. The facts of life are very stubborn; it has to be male and female to produce children. Having a marriage register allows us to discover our roots. Most people like to know their natural mum and dad. The departure from the one-man, one-woman (till death do us part) has had a bad effect on the nation’s health and wellbeing. Look at Africa where up to 5000 people die of AIDS every week. Sexually transmitted diseases doubled from 1995 to the year 2000. Incident of AIDS increased by about 10,000 sufferers from 2000 to 2001. The cost to the National Health Service runs into billions of pounds each year. There is no organization or institute on earth that benefits the community more than the Christian faith.
Have you heard of the Street Pastors giving backup to the Police helping to keeping our cities peaceful.
I have good friends who spend time late Friday and Saturday nights in some of the most dangerous places helping drug addicts in our area,
I support an organization called Teen Challenge that over a year changes the lives of many drug addicts and society dropouts, Not funded in any way by the Government because it is a Christian organization.
Orphanages, Schools, Hospitals, youth clubs all over the world run and funded by Christians.
The Salvation Army in about 127 countries. Church of England, Roman Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Free Evangelical to mention a few, all working hard in the UK and abroad.
Most of the work done is done on a voluntary basis the rest is funded by Christians.
At this point it has to be said; that homosexuality brings shock and sadness to most families. To some it brings shame. I have spoken to several mothers, whose son or daughter claims to be homosexual, and their first reaction has either been revulsion or sadness, but they have eventually come to a form of acceptance because they love their children.
There is a difference between being judgmental and being honest. At the end of the day no one is perfect but most people know the true meaning of natural marriage. Homosexuality is unnatural and very unhealthy, you can love and care for your relatives of the same gender, and even your best friends without climbing into bed with them. We don’t need a great education to understand which parts of us are designed for what, and why.
Marriage and sex isn’t something to play with; it has a serious purpose.
The facts of life are very stubborn; it has to be male and female to produce children. Having a marriage register allows us to discover our roots. Most people like to know their natural mum and dad.
The departure from the one-man, one-woman (till death do us part) has had a bad effect on the nation’s health and wellbeing.
Look at Africa where up to 5000 people die of AIDS every week.
Sexually transmitted diseases doubled from 1995 to the year 2000. Incident of AIDS increased by about 10,000 sufferers from 2000 to 2001.
The cost to the National Health Service runs into billions of pounds each year.

]]> By: JC http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-104480 JC Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:27:57 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-104480 So as a white supremacist can I refuse to marry a black couple simply because it is my belief? Beliefs don't only come from the church; they are within all of us. Civil law has to over-rule church law or there would be serious consequences. Actually I am a gay man and quite frankly this woman's argument is ridiculous; I would also be interested to know whether this lady ate shell fish for lunch during her working life too... In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." I presume this is the alleged homosexual reference she disagrees with...whereas (this is my lunch reference) from the King James Version, Leviticus 11:12 is: "Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you." Somewhere you have to draw the line and differentiate between common sense and something that borders on the ridiculous in a distortion of reality... Please go to the European Court of Human Rights; you will be laughed all the way outta there…get over it already…if this is what you believe then quit and get a new job, not moan about it, life is too short. So as a white supremacist can I refuse to marry a black couple simply because it is my belief?

Beliefs don’t only come from the church; they are within all of us. Civil law has to over-rule church law or there would be serious consequences. Actually I am a gay man and quite frankly this woman’s argument is ridiculous; I would also be interested to know whether this lady ate shell fish for lunch during her working life too…

In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” I presume this is the alleged homosexual reference she disagrees with…whereas (this is my lunch reference) from the King James Version, Leviticus 11:12 is: “Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.”

Somewhere you have to draw the line and differentiate between common sense and something that borders on the ridiculous in a distortion of reality…

Please go to the European Court of Human Rights; you will be laughed all the way outta there…get over it already…if this is what you believe then quit and get a new job, not moan about it, life is too short.

]]> By: Robert Halfhill http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101926 Robert Halfhill Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:46:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101926 First, in a democratic society with freedom of religion, the government does not discriminate against some religions. It does, however, forbid the various religions from trying to murder or commit other criminal acts against members of other religions. This means that the government must make employment freely available to members of all religions but it also means that no government employee may use the authority their government position gives them to refuse to provide government services to or make negative remarks about members of other religions. If that were not the case, the government could violate their religious rights through government employees who belong to other religions refusing to provide government services to them. We had a similar situation in my own country, the United States, in the 1950's and 60's when inhabitants of the U.S. southern states complained that their states rights were being violated when the federal government finally begin to forbid them from discriminating against Black people. And in Minneapolis, Minnesota, when it emerged that Christian employees of the City's correctional institution were telling Lesbian inmates that being a Lesbian was wrong and a homophobic psychiatrist involved in traing the city's police was using his position to promote his homophoc views, the Christians bleated like martyrs. "Is there any position where Christians are not excluded in Minneapolis city government?" one of them whinned. Well, yes, there are many positions for you and the city and state human rights departments will come to your defense if you are ever discriminated against because of your religion. But you may not use your position in government to discriminate against others, and, if you do, there is no and should be no place for you in government. Bigots always make themselves objects of such well deserved conempt when they whine and bleat like martyrs that their rights are being violated when they are no longer allowed to discriminate and persecute! And lastly, I reject the charge by another commenter that we are "going into racism" because many commenters pointed out that she could be discriminated against because of her race if government employees could discriminate against and claim that their rights would be violated if they were not allowed to continue discriminating. In fact, it is in order for me to go even further. Both Blacks and Gays have been discriminated and persecuted by the same people, the members of the capitalist class who were at the head of the expanding Euro/American mercantile and then industrial system. As victims of the same people, we should be allies. But, unfortunately, Blacks tend to be the most fervent adherents of the same Christian religion that has persecuted Gays for two thousand years and defended the enalaving of Blacks. If I WERE a racist, which I am not, I could say, "See, I can prove to you that Black people are intellectually inferior to whites. They are so stupid that they even bought into and became the most fervent converts of the religion of the very people who enslaved them!" That would not be a valid argument because lower class whites make as big a fools of themselves as members of those Pentacostal churces. And my own community, the Gay community, provides many fervent adherents of the Metropolitan Community Church and other Christian groups. Sometimes, when I see Gays clinging to the religion that spent the better part of 2000 years burning us alive at the stake, its enough to make you think those homophobis psychiatrists, Bieber and Soccarides, who say there is something wrong with our minds are right. But I do not think that. It is precisesly the groups for whom things are bad in this world, such as Gays and Blacks and Women, who spend most of their energies anticipating the joys of an immaginary better world. But, still, someone needs to point out the absurdity of Blacks who have been victims of Christianity having their bigotry against a group of fellow victims ot that same religion, Gays, aroused and justified by that very same religion. Robert Halfhill First, in a democratic society with freedom of religion, the government does not discriminate against some religions. It does, however, forbid the various religions from trying to murder or commit other criminal acts against members of other religions. This means that the government must make employment freely available to members of all religions but it also means that no government employee may use the authority their government position gives them to refuse to provide government services to or make negative remarks about members of other religions. If that were not the case, the government could violate their religious rights through government employees who belong to other religions refusing to provide government services to them.

We had a similar situation in my own country, the United States, in the 1950′s and 60′s when inhabitants of the U.S. southern states complained that their states rights were being violated when the federal government finally begin to forbid them from discriminating against Black people.

And in Minneapolis, Minnesota, when it emerged that Christian employees of the City’s correctional institution were telling Lesbian inmates that being a Lesbian was wrong and a homophobic psychiatrist involved in traing the city’s police was using his position to promote his homophoc views, the Christians bleated like martyrs. “Is there any position where Christians are not excluded in Minneapolis city government?” one of them whinned. Well, yes, there are many positions for you and the city and state human rights departments will come to your defense if you are ever discriminated against because of your religion. But you may not use your position in government to discriminate against others, and, if you do, there is no and should be no place for you in government.

Bigots always make themselves objects of such well deserved conempt when they whine and bleat like martyrs that their rights are being violated when they are no longer allowed to discriminate and persecute!

And lastly, I reject the charge by another commenter that we are “going into racism” because many commenters pointed out that she could be discriminated against because of her race if government employees could discriminate against and claim that their rights would be violated if they were not allowed to continue discriminating.

In fact, it is in order for me to go even further. Both Blacks and Gays have been discriminated and persecuted by the same people, the members of the capitalist class who were at the head of the expanding Euro/American mercantile and then industrial system. As victims of the same people, we should be allies. But, unfortunately, Blacks tend to be the most fervent adherents of the same Christian religion that has persecuted Gays for two thousand years and defended the enalaving of Blacks. If I WERE a racist, which I am not, I could say, “See, I can prove to you that Black people are intellectually inferior to whites. They are so stupid that they even bought into and became the most fervent converts of the religion of the very people who enslaved them!”

That would not be a valid argument because lower class whites make as big a fools of themselves as members of those Pentacostal churces. And my own community, the Gay community, provides many fervent adherents of the Metropolitan Community Church and other Christian groups. Sometimes, when I see Gays clinging to the religion that spent the better part of 2000 years burning us alive at the stake, its enough to make you think those homophobis psychiatrists, Bieber and Soccarides, who say there is something wrong with our minds are right. But I do not think that. It is precisesly the groups for whom things are bad in this world, such as Gays and Blacks and Women, who spend most of their energies anticipating the joys of an immaginary better world. But, still, someone needs to point out the absurdity of Blacks who have been victims of Christianity having their bigotry against a group of fellow victims ot that same religion, Gays, aroused and justified by that very same religion.

Robert Halfhill

]]> By: Chester http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101105 Chester Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:38:43 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101105 Bobby - the freedom to be religious doesn't mean you can push it on others or claim you shouldn't do the duties of the job you are employed for homosexuals don't define self by where the penis goes unlike he homophobes/bigots Bobby – the freedom to be religious doesn’t mean you can push it on others or claim you shouldn’t do the duties of the job you are employed for
homosexuals don’t define self by where the penis goes unlike he homophobes/bigots

]]> By: Bobby http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101087 Bobby Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:47:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-101087 This is no surprise, Europe has turned into a cesspool of non-believers. Turning churches into bars!! Really is anyone surprised the courts don't care about the freedom to practice ones religion. What a pitiful life homosexuals have, their entire identity based where they put their penis. This is no surprise, Europe has turned into a cesspool of non-believers. Turning churches into bars!! Really is anyone surprised the courts don’t care about the freedom to practice ones religion.
What a pitiful life homosexuals have, their entire identity based where they put their penis.

]]> By: Yewtree http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100921 Yewtree Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:27:07 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100921 Waste of court time; she should be made to pay costs. The Bible doesn't support homophobia anyway; numerous theologians have debunked the so-called "clobber" passages. And even if it did support homophobia, many of its social and sexual mores (apart from the ones about being nice to other people) are irrelevant in the 21st century. As is often said, I do hope these people avoid wearing clothing of mixed fibres, and sowing seeds of two different kinds in the same field... Homophobia is not a core value of Christianity, so these people are out of step even with their own religion! Waste of court time; she should be made to pay costs.

The Bible doesn’t support homophobia anyway; numerous theologians have debunked the so-called “clobber” passages. And even if it did support homophobia, many of its social and sexual mores (apart from the ones about being nice to other people) are irrelevant in the 21st century. As is often said, I do hope these people avoid wearing clothing of mixed fibres, and sowing seeds of two different kinds in the same field…

Homophobia is not a core value of Christianity, so these people are out of step even with their own religion!

]]> By: Rev Laurie Roberts http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100906 Rev Laurie Roberts Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:20:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100906 Shuldn’t that be José ? Comment by arfur — March 10, 2010 @ 1:00 Oh, yes, thanx Arfur ! I was strugglin ... Shuldn’t that be José ?
Comment by arfur — March 10, 2010 @ 1:00
Oh, yes, thanx Arfur ! I was strugglin …

]]> By: Peter http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100902 Peter Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:30:03 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100902 In my youth we were taught to sing `And they'll know we are Christians by our love, by our love' now the song is `They will know we are Christians by our hate, by our hate.' I am delighted by the Court's ruling. In my youth we were taught to sing `And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love’ now the song is `They will know we are Christians by our hate, by our hate.’ I am delighted by the Court’s ruling.

]]> By: Will http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100885 Will Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:59:28 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100885 This week is looking like mostly a good news week.... one self loathing @anti-gay' senator admits he's gay, and now this hateful wretch has been refused permission to appeal. And quite right too... if this woman can't do her job within the confines of the law, then she has one obvious choice:- resign. This week is looking like mostly a good news week…. one self loathing @anti-gay’ senator admits he’s gay, and now this hateful wretch has been refused permission to appeal.

And quite right too… if this woman can’t do her job within the confines of the law, then she has one obvious choice:- resign.

]]> By: friday jones http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100861 friday jones Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:06:37 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100861 Hey, what if there was a Shiite Muslim on the Council who disapproved of her uncovered hair and her apparent extramarital sex, could he chuck some stones at her or would telling him he can't do that be "oppressing his religious beliefs?" Hey, what if there was a Shiite Muslim on the Council who disapproved of her uncovered hair and her apparent extramarital sex, could he chuck some stones at her or would telling him he can’t do that be “oppressing his religious beliefs?”

]]> By: arfur http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100859 arfur Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:00:35 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100859 Shouldn't that be José ? Shouldn’t that be José ?

]]> By: Rev Laurie Roberts http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100854 Rev Laurie Roberts Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:38:53 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100854 On the other hand -- NO WAY would I want her or anyone like her officiating at MY Civil Partnership. No way Hosey ! But straying into racism is no remedy for her anti-gay BS On the other hand — NO WAY would I want her or anyone like her officiating at MY Civil Partnership.

No way Hosey !

But straying into racism is no remedy for her anti-gay BS

]]> By: Chameleon http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100851 Chameleon Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:19:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100851 The woman is deluded! Civil Partnership is a civil contract between two qualifying adults, and whilst the rights and responsibilities that attach to it are identical to those of civil marriage, they ahve nothing to do whatsoever with marriage in its religious understanding. LL is mistakenly leaning on her freedom of religious belief to justify her homophobia. She's welcome to - I don't expect we'll change her mind. But that's no reason why the state should finance her prejudices by giving her a job. Simple. The woman is deluded! Civil Partnership is a civil contract between two qualifying adults, and whilst the rights and responsibilities that attach to it are identical to those of civil marriage, they ahve nothing to do whatsoever with marriage in its religious understanding. LL is mistakenly leaning on her freedom of religious belief to justify her homophobia. She’s welcome to – I don’t expect we’ll change her mind. But that’s no reason why the state should finance her prejudices by giving her a job. Simple.

]]> By: Dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100829 Dave Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:06:19 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100829 Surely, if the bible has anything to do with it, she would be shunned, probably even worse, for having a child out of wedlock. I mean to say, what would be Pope say. I bet a few years down the line you'll probably read she's converted to Islam and demanding to wear a burqa at work. Mind you, it would probably suit her. Surely, if the bible has anything to do with it, she would be shunned, probably even worse, for having a child out of wedlock. I mean to say, what would be Pope say. I bet a few years down the line you’ll probably read she’s converted to Islam and demanding to wear a burqa at work. Mind you, it would probably suit her.

]]> By: JohnK http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100820 JohnK Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:53:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100820 Check out what the Telegraph are saying about the Lillian Ladele case. Tell me what you think of the comment from the Christian Institutes spokes person "Mike Jude" quoted in this article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7399275/Christian-registrar-denied-leave-to-appeal-gay-wedding-refusal.html Check out what the Telegraph are saying about the Lillian Ladele case.

Tell me what you think of the comment from the Christian Institutes spokes person “Mike Jude” quoted in this article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7399275/Christian-registrar-denied-leave-to-appeal-gay-wedding-refusal.html

]]> By: JohnK http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100806 JohnK Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:58:13 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100806 Why does the Christian Institute continue to fund and push Lillian Ladel's case ??? Come and find out about the Christian Institute by joining a group of us who challange the Christian Institute's presence on face book. http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Christian-Institute/78436661801#!/pages/The-Christian-Institute/78436661801?ref=mf Why does the Christian Institute continue to fund and push Lillian Ladel’s case ???

Come and find out about the Christian Institute by joining a group of us who challange the Christian Institute’s presence on face book.

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]]> By: BrazilBoysBlog http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100793 BrazilBoysBlog Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:42:51 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100793 @26 "By labeling her as “Christian” the media perpetuates the falsity that faith and being gay are incompatible. We need stronger condemnation from the Churches themselves on this attack on equality. " Indeed, but the churches themselves are the problem. Look at the catholic church. I have no problem with people reading, gaining comfort from, and even trying to live their lives along with the teachings of a BOOK... (even though I think it a work of complete fiction) What I do object to is when these idiots decide that everyone else should also do the same. When these idiots decide to take gay peoples tax dollars in salary, yet decide they are going to refuse them the services and same protections in law... All because their little magic book tells them to. (as far as they read into it). I think this woman should be sued for some back pay because she clearly thought she could selectively apply her labours on our behalf, again, because her little book told her so. Personally, I worship the great and all powerful Jeffrey Archer. I try to live my life according to the valuable lessons and scriptures in his books.. And, let´s face it, his books have exactly the same claim to accuracy and fact that the other best seller on the fiction list has! (The bible) @26 “By labeling her as “Christian” the media perpetuates the falsity that faith and being gay are incompatible. We need stronger condemnation from the Churches themselves on this attack on equality. ”

Indeed, but the churches themselves are the problem. Look at the catholic church. I have no problem with people reading, gaining comfort from, and even trying to live their lives along with the teachings of a BOOK… (even though I think it a work of complete fiction) What I do object to is when these idiots decide that everyone else should also do the same. When these idiots decide to take gay peoples tax dollars in salary, yet decide they are going to refuse them the services and same protections in law… All because their little magic book tells them to. (as far as they read into it).

I think this woman should be sued for some back pay because she clearly thought she could selectively apply her labours on our behalf, again, because her little book told her so.

Personally, I worship the great and all powerful Jeffrey Archer.

I try to live my life according to the valuable lessons and scriptures in his books..

And, let´s face it, his books have exactly the same claim to accuracy and fact that the other best seller on the fiction list has! (The bible)

]]> By: Paul http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100790 Paul Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:32:31 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100790 I'm ashamed to think there are still public servants of color who are outrageously bigoted. Oh, I forgot, she must be a Jehovah's Witless. D'oh.... Score: 1 for Human Rights, 0 for bigotry. I’m ashamed to think there are still public servants of color who are outrageously bigoted. Oh, I forgot, she must be a Jehovah’s Witless. D’oh….
Score: 1 for Human Rights, 0 for bigotry.

]]> By: Andy Q http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100788 Andy Q Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:21:21 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/03/09/christian-registrar-lillian-ladele-refused-leave-to-appeal-to-supreme-court/#comment-100788 Jesus had a chance to save a slave. Only he didn't, simply telling him to be the best slave he can. Oh slavery is allowed in the bible. Jesus had a chance to save a slave. Only he didn’t, simply telling him to be the best slave he can. Oh slavery is allowed in the bible.

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