Reader comments · One third of gays and lesbians in Edinburgh physically attacked · PinkNews

Enter your email address to receive our daily LGBT news roundup

You're free to unsubscribe at any time.


One third of gays and lesbians in Edinburgh physically attacked

Post your comment

Comments on this article are now closed.

Reader comments

  1. Its very sad to think that people still won’t report to the police. There have been big changes over the last 10-15 years in the way the police interact with the LGBT community. I understand that everything is not perfect across the country, but you should be able to speak to an officer in the Public Protection Unit at your police station.

  2. Tom Boyle 2 Mar 2010, 5:24pm

    Yes we should feel confident to report attacks, physical or verbal to the police, but clearly people don’t. Personally, I would have second thoughts about it myself and without wishing to offend anyone I ought to feel fully confident about the approaching the police. I’m what people call straight-looking and straight-acting and no policeman would ever think I was gay until I told him what had happened. But I’ve been gay-bashed nevertheless, after leaving a gay club once. I weighed it all up and given that this was in a part of London not known as particularly gay-friendly I decided just to let it go. I just couldn’t be doing with trying to make some officer feel concerned that a guy had taken a swing at me and called me a queer.

  3. take one look at the Digby thread and that URL to what they’re saying at West Ham about his death if anyone has any doubts about the hostility there is towards gay men in this country even in spite of all the acts of parliament!

  4. yes Chris P I’ve read some of the comments on the Westham URL thingy and was shocked and horrified. i had no idea such things could be said and on the internet for all to see. What a sad and horrible world we live in.

  5. Sorry, folks, this is dodgy. Nobody should want to minimize the seriousness of homophobic violence and abuse, but there is nothing in this piece to justify the stark title. ‘A small survey has suggested..’ – What, exactly? Who were the respondents? What were they asked? Exactly how many were asked? No more detail is given regarding the wild headline. At the very least an adverb like ‘possibly’ needs to be in the title.
    Get a grip, PN. There is more than enough anxiety about these things without stirring it up for the sake of it.

  6. Riono, I agree, a cohort of 70 is simply not enough to justify the worrying statement “A third of LGBT people in Edinburgh have been physically assaulted but only 15 per cent reported incidents to police, a small survey has suggested”.

    In fact, it’s extraordinary that the writer of the article did not or does not see this.

    Maybe some of the people writing these articles for PinkNews have their hearts in the right place but are not too clued up on the need for analysis and intellectual discipline.

    Isn’t that horrifying and worrying enough? There’s no

  7. Whilst I agree with some of the above posts that there needs to be a lot more serious work done to encourage LGBT people in feeling confident and re-assurred about reporting homophobic hate crimes, I personally now feel that I would report such a crime committed against myself.

    Like many others most of the abuse I’ve suffered has been verbal abuse and like many others, despite seething with anger about it at the time, I chose not to report it. However, I now feel that if someone commits these sorts of crimes against me, then they almost certainly have/will do the same to other LGBT people in my home city. By not reporting it, the perpetrator will feel a sense of empowerment, that they can get away with it without consequence, that homophobia is OK in ‘their’ city.

    By reporting these crimes promptly on the other hand, even if no charges are brought against the perpetrator, it will let them know that such behaviour will not be tolerated and that they risk being in trouble with the law if they try it again with someone else. Often the fear of criminal proceedings can be enough to scare them into not repeating the behaviour because of possible consequences to their current employment, their name being published in the local paper and so on.

    I live in “the oil capital of europe”, so there are sadly plenty of bigots in my home city. Despite this however, I feel very re-assurred by the local LGBT liaison officers and I know that in the event of an incident, that my case would be dealt with very robustly and professionally.

    Bottom line, if you don’t report it, there could be another victim of LGBT hate crime as a result.

  8. theotherone 3 Mar 2010, 8:45pm

    In Statistics you only need a sample size of 24 or above to make it valid. This survey has over 70 so no it’s not junk, it’s statistically valid.

    If only 70 filled this in then 21 where physically attacked, 47 verbally attacked and 37 felt unsafe.

    These figures are remarkably similar to the results of the First Out survey which found that 23% had been physically attacked and 68% who had been verbally assaulted. This dates from 2002 and had 924 replies.

    8 years have passed in Scotland and fvck all has changed. Infact things have got worse.

    I suppose the survey of over 300 will be written off in the same way?

  9. theotherone 3 Mar 2010, 8:58pm

    george: much as I’d agree I, for one, will never report attacks to the police again.

    I had someone pull a knife on me and chase me for over a mile. The police said it wasn’t a serious incident and refused to take an incident report unless i gave them my ‘real name’ (I’m Trans.)

    Likewise when i was raped the police took two week to interview my attacker.

  10. Gays verbally abuse billions of human beings on yearly basis.

    If so, why to be upset when they got backfire?

    Have a good day, guys!

  11. theotherone 4 Mar 2010, 12:18pm

    ‘Gays verbally abuse billions of human beings on yearly basis’

    you know your right there and here goes another one:

    you’re a fvcking idiot.

  12. theotherone, I think the point that was being made above about the small number questioned is that that sample may not have been representative. It’s unlikely the survey was carried out in a safe-house where everybody had a history of being abused, but can you see the problem? For a survey to be respectable it has to provide evidence of the sampling and selection techniques used. The article doesn’t simply doesn’t say, or ask. Perhaps the small number, of 70, were selected very very carefully. But perhaps not.

    Please don’t take me wrongly. I would love for a survey to be both beyond reproach and to prove that there is a great deal of homophobia out there . . . because I personally know there is.

  13. theotherone 5 Mar 2010, 12:44am

    without knowing the nature of the survey (the questions asked, where the questionnaires where distributed, the statistical weighting) then we must reserve final judgment but the results mirror an earlier survey so I’d tend to believe them.

These comments are un-moderated and do not necessarily represent the views of PinkNews. If you believe that a comment is inappropriate or libellous, please contact us.