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  1. Martin Gray 2 Mar 2010, 12:18pm

    Come on Pink News, must you stoop to the level of The Sun by repeating sensational gossip. It may turn out to be true, but would be just as thrilling for the prurient then; why not wait, rather than further put it there, for more people to repeat and others to believe? Really, imagine the guy was your brother, or best friend.

  2. I agree. Wait for the post mortem results, please.

  3. It’s not just the Sun who is reporting the auto-erotic asphyxiation story.

    Apparently police removed a belt and bag from the scene for investigation.

    Toxicology tests will also be revealed later.

    Horrible and needless way to go (if it’s true).

  4. Sister Mary clarence 2 Mar 2010, 12:35pm

    ‘Apparently’ – I think that was the point that was being made by others. Possibly it might have been a good idea to wait until ‘apparently’ becomes ‘definitely’, if in fact it ever does

  5. Call me dim if you like, but it would not be described as unexplained by the police if the auto-erotic asphyxiation belt and bag story had any basis for being true. Instead they would be calling it death by misadventure and his body would not be going for a post-mortem.

    This is typical press embellishment pure and simple.

  6. Kristian’s death was untimely and he will be sorely missed by all at Pride London. He brought massive energy and an infectious sense of humour to our 2009 Main Stage in Trafalgar Square.

    This year’s event will be lacking a certain something without him.

  7. Abi1975: Sorry sweetie, but you are talking utter ROT.
    Firstly, the police will not make any statements about cause of death until a post mortem, unless it confirmed by a pathologist beforehand. Secondly, *ALL* unnatural deaths require a full post mortem examination. That also includes any death by misadventure.

  8. I just wish our sleazy press would stop speculating over a young man’s death, I wonder if this story would be doing the rounds if he were straight? Even if he did have an accident of this nature, it’s a family matter. Abi1975 makes a very good point.
    Can we please have this comment removed from the story, I thought Pink News was above repeating spiteful tittle-tattle.

  9. ” I wonder if this story would be doing the rounds if he were straight?”

    For sure it would.

    David Carradine (from ‘Kill Bill’) died in an auto-erotic asphyxiation accident last year.

    Michael Hutchence was found hanged in a hotel room many years ago in what was deemed a suicide. Speculation was rife that it was an auto-erotic asphyxiation accident.

    Auto-erotic asphyxiation is such a foolish, needless way to die.

  10. Even if there are calls for an independent PCC after this, it won’t make any difference because the people employed will be ex-newspaper employees.

    Look at the so called IPCC they are made up of ex-police officers who discriminate accordingly.

  11. Cleggy: So what would you prefer? Clerics and priests perhaps? Or possibly lawyers? Who better to administer control over a group than those with the most experience in that field.

  12. No, it is not wrong of PinkNews to report the Sun’s article on auto-asphyxiation. And here is why!

    1. Do any of the self-respecting posters on these threads automatically accept the word of that gutter-press newspaper, The Sun? (I am obviously not addressing the odd self-repressed nutter we unfortunately have on these threads.)

    2. The police apparently said yesterday that the death was “unexplained”. As Abi1975 rightly says, when you come upon the scene of a death by auto-asphyxiation it is pretty obvious what caused the death. You don’t then announce the death as “unexplained”!

    3. The papers, including PinkNews, report that the death occurred in Richford Road, E15. Richford Road is in West Ham. That area is synonymous with rampant homophobia. (I am surprised that a well-known, easily-recognised, national TV presenter who was gay chose to live in such an area.)

    4. Comments on the West Ham online forum reveal extraordinary hatred towards Kristian Digby.

    5. One poster on the West Ham online forum has claimed to have murdered Kristian Digby.

    The poster, calling himself or herself “Darlo Debs” wrote at 10:24 Monday March 1: “OK now I just have to do in Dominic Littlewood and my mission is complete.” (Dominic Littlewood co-presented with Kristian Digby.

    Another poster writes: “I notice ‘After 8′ has yet to post on this thread – maybe he has something to hide in this matter.”

    6. It would be FOOLISH for US not to consider that Digby was murdered. (Not necessarily by somebody who uses the West Ham Online forum, but by someone equally as homophobic who lives in the area.)

    7. It would be FOOLISH for us to trust that the police responsible for such events in the West Ham area would not cover up the homophobic murder of a nationally-known television presenter who was gay. West Ham police may well be of similar mind to certain West Ham Online members. We must bear in mind that it was alleged that police in nearby Essex interfered with the autopsy following the death of the Stuart Lubbock at the home of Michael Barrymore.

    8. If this was the death of someone like the heterosexual Jill Dando (the beloved TV presenter murdered in the 1990s), the nation would be looking into this matter very carefully.
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    Please go to the West Ham online forum and IMMEDIATELY and do a full-page screen-grab of the disgusting homophobic comments that are posted there. Please then circulate your screen-grab to everyone you know who may be concerned by these concerns. West Ham Online is sure to take the page down as soon as our concern about the homophobia of their members gets out. We need to have copies of the evidence before they remove it.

    Please feel free to copy and paste the above message, together with your screen-grab, and alert as many people as you know. (I have taken a screen-grab, so if a copy is needed in future then contact me.)

    There is no smoke without fire. The matter needs attention. If it proves that Kristian was entirely alone at the time of his death, then that will be a relief in terms of the possibility of his having been murdered. But we would be FOOLS to stand by and trust the police of West Ham on this one.

    The offending comments are at:
    http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat.php?4333196||1||

    I would suggest that people hold fire for 48 hours with regard to complaining to West Ham Online. It would be best for us to alert everyone we know first, including the BBC where Kristian has many friends. Let Kristian’s friends and family see the page for themselves. Let them make the complaint.

  13. SimonM: Well it’s all supposition at this stage, but I really hope it wasn’t auto-asphyxiation. It’s not only, as you say, a foolish and needless way to die, it’s also a somewhat embarrassing one for those left behind. There’s one thing to say “He was knocked down by a bus”, and quite another to say “We found him trussed up like a chicken with his own belt, naked and upside down in the wardrobe.” It’s really not good press.

  14. Eddy: “It would be FOOLISH for US not to consider that Digby was murdered.”

    Please keep your ridiculous conspiracy theories to yourself.
    If KD had felt threatened, I’m sure the police would have been notified before now. Equally, if West Ham is such a homophobic place, why did he live there?

    You are as bad as David Skinner and his unfounded Christian rants. As Will pointed out to him, it’s Occam’s Razor, and the usual answer is usually the simplest one. You are as bad as Jan Moir assuming Steven Gately’s death was due to some nefarious sexual fiddling-about, rather than the rather more mundane, but practical reason that he had a heart attack.

    I’m sure the PM will bring it all out in the wash, and you will look as red-faced as Ms. Moir when all your farcical paranoic theories turn out to be the product of an addled mind and complete fictitious drivel.

  15. Mihangel apYrs 2 Mar 2010, 2:57pm

    in a perverse way it would be better if his death was an accident (however casued). At least then it wouldn’t be due to a problem that he couldn’t share with the people who loved him.

  16. RobN you are a demonstrated sad and passive little man, who is ignored. You appear to be of little use to anybody.

  17. Eddy: No 12: you say: “It would be FOOLISH for US not to consider that Digby was murdered.”

    But the police say there are no suspicious circumstances. By that I presume they mean there was no sign that his house had been broken into.

    It is not healthy on your part to assume he was murdered simply because West Ham football club are supported by a load of morons.

    He’s dead – and apparently it was neither a suicide nor a murder. And the details at the moment suggest that it was a solo sex game that went horribly wrong.

    While there’s nothing ‘immoral’ about that type of death it’s still just so pointless and avoidable.

    How bad must one’s orgasms be to need to require suffocation to get off? It’s foolish and potentially deadly.

  18. Eddy: Just remember the old adage; “Just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean everyone isn’t out to get you.”

  19. The Sun describes what erotic asphyxiation is but doesn’t mention how dangerous it is. Irresponsible rag.

  20. Niko West 2 Mar 2010, 4:22pm

    Do writers at the PN have such low self esteem that they need to mimic the style of minor toxic red tops?

    And shall we not apply the same respect to this poor man as we sought for Stephen Gately?

    This paper is wearing shoes too big for itself one suspects.

  21. SimonM, I shall bear in mind that you have extraordinary respect for the great British Bobby, PC Bloggs, that you believe they always have the interests of we LGBTs at heart, and that the pronouncements of the police are never to be questioned.

    REALLY!

    Are you STUPID?????????

    Do you not READ the news?

    Only last week Metropolitan Police Commander Ali Dizaeiwas fu*king JAILED for FOUR YEARS for corruption!

    Have you complete amnesia for all the cases there have been of police corruption and cover-ups in this country??????

    Put your head back in the sand with the other dodos, if you like. But I will not.

    If you are the same man as “Simon Murphy”, I have always thought that you are man who takes responsibility, SimonM. But maybe you are not the same person.

  22. Stratford in East London is where I and a number of other gay and lesbians live. “West Ham” is the name of the borough within which Stratford lies.

    Not to be confused with the football club “West Ham” based in Upton Park. If you are confusing homophobic football supporters with the borough of the same name and assuming that a man was driven to his death because of living in East London, you should really check your facts.

    East London is no more homophobic than any other part of London. The fact that a man died is tragic.

    Any other connotation is mischievous.

  23. “SimonM, I shall bear in mind that you have extraordinary respect for the great British Bobby, PC Bloggs, that you believe they always have the interests of we LGBTs at heart, and that the pronouncements of the police are never to be questioned.
    REALLY!
    Are you STUPID?????????
    Do you not READ the news? ”

    Yes I read the news. But I am not so certifiably paranoid that I am hallucinating some crazed conspiracy theory whereby the police are murdering people or conspiring in their murder.

    Get some perspective. If you want to believe that the police murdered Kristian Digby because you think the police are homophobic then that’s your own business.

    But you are doing so without a shred of evidence and it makes you look paranoid and unstable.

  24. SimonM you are the one who is hallucinating if you have interpreted what Eddy has simply objectively reported and alerted us to as meaning that he believes “the police are murdering people or conspiring in their murder” as you have put it! He’s said no such thing.

  25. Shame on you Pinknews! quick to point at Jan Moir’s offensive and inacurate reporting instead making yourself guilty of nothing less than sensational gossip reporting.

  26. The Daily Telegraph reports: “Mr Digby is the third BBC presenter to die unexpectedly in recent years.”

    Maybe the Met aren’t homophobic, maybe it’s just a conspiracy to kill off TV presenters. Spooky.

  27. paul wright 2 Mar 2010, 5:01pm

    JudeE, you are obviously a bit touchy about comments which you think are about the area you live in, understandably, but go check and you’ll see Eddy’s right, the road where this guy was found dead is in West Ham.

    And on these pages in the past couple of years there have been quite a few cases of gay men getting beaten up, knifed, or killed in East London. Fact.

    At the same time there are homophobes in every area.

  28. “Spooky”, ROBN? Steady on or you’ll be agreeing that maybe Digby’s death does need looking into!

  29. Enough speculation already! It’s like he’s only been announced dead since this morning and already everyone’s acting like the armchair coroner who saw the whole thing unravel before their eyes. Why not wait for the actual coroner’s verdict to come out, then you can draw conclusions from that if you need to. That’s the lesson we can learn from Jan Moir. Gossip, rumour and speculation does not equal fact.
    In the meantime I’d just like to say regardless of how it happened it’s a shame. The guy was likeable and made those eps of “To Buy or Not to Buy” he appeared on great fun. I’ll be missing his input on the daytime slot.

  30. Tom Boyle 2 Mar 2010, 5:16pm

    Trust the police? Trust the coroner? Sounds like some people are living in cuckoo-land! Many years ago my aunt murdered my uncle in a fit of rage. The police turned up and probably they were both old they said they were going to put it down to a fall while under the influence of drink! The coroner went along with it. So the vicious old aunt got away with it scott-free after having been abusing my uncle for years! (Mind you, she knew what she had done, and she knew that we knew, and so she then proceeded to drink herself to death!)

    But really, c’mon guys, trust the police and trust the coroner 100%???? – particularly when you’re talking about the death of a perfectly healthy young gay man in an area of London that is noted for attacks on gays???? You have gotta be joking. keep an open mind and don;’t leave the thinking to others is what I say!

  31. No 24: John H: You say: “SimonM you are the one who is hallucinating if you have interpreted what Eddy has simply objectively reported and alerted us to as meaning that he believes “the police are murdering people or conspiring in their murder” as you have put it! He’s said no such thing. ”

    I will give you his direct quote:

    “6. It would be FOOLISH for US not to consider that Digby was murdered. (Not necessarily by somebody who uses the West Ham Online forum, but by someone equally as homophobic who lives in the area.)

    7. It would be FOOLISH for us to trust that the police responsible for such events in the West Ham area would not cover up the homophobic murder of a nationally-known television presenter who was gay.”

    Eddy is engaging in paranoia of the most extreme and unfounded kind in his posts. He is jumping to the most baseless of conclusions using the fact that some West Ham football supporters are homophobic as his evidence.

    Get a grip!

  32. No 30: Tom Boyle: “But really, c’mon guys, trust the police and trust the coroner 100%???? – particularly when you’re talking about the death of a perfectly healthy young gay man in an area of London that is noted for attacks on gays???? ”

    Well considering that there is not the slightest shred of evidence of any foul play then I see no reason to disbelieve the police.

    If the guy died from a sex game gone wrong, well it may be embarrassing for his family. But it’s no reason to start inventing murder theories.

  33. So Simon why don’t you tell us what it is YOU think we should all be worrying about right now, then, eh?

    re. 6, Eddy said people should just “consider”
    re. 7, he suggests total trust would be misplaced

    both are perfectly reasonable to me

    but tell us, what would YOU like us to focus on right now, Sargeant?

  34. Tom Boyle 2 Mar 2010, 5:39pm

    wish I had the same unerring faith in policemen as you do Simon. see the other report about the findings in Edinburgh and you might change your mind?

  35. I hope Jan Moir doesn’t write an article about this.

    The the person on here who thinks that apparent signs of auto-erotic asphyxiation at the scene of a death should mean that no post mortem would be needed, well… wouldn’t that be the ideal way to cover up a murder. If that were true then every murderer would just wrap a belt around the neck of their victim’s corpse and run off laughing.

    Speculation is not useful. The post mortem should shed some light.

    Whatever the circumstances this is a terrible tragedy and Kristian Digby was a talented man with a social conscience and a great example of a normal gay man for others less happy with their sexuality to look up to.

  36. “but tell us, what would YOU like us to focus on right now, Sargeant? ”

    Oh I dunno.

    Perhaps we should all have a little chat about the wisdom of strangling oneself for sexual highs.

    How common is this?

    What can be done (if anything) to make people realise how unhinged and dangerous such behaviour is?

    I know that the asphyxiation theory is only a theory also but it would appear to be more accurate than the ‘A homophobic West Ham supporter did it and the police and coroner are involved in the coverup’.

  37. No 34:@Tom Boyle: “wish I had the same unerring faith in policemen as you do Simon.”

    I don’t have unerring faith in the police.

    On the other hand I don’t believe that the police do get involved in the cover ups for murders to protect homophobic football supporters. That’s just not believeable.

  38. Jean-Paul Bentham 2 Mar 2010, 5:56pm

    SimonM and Simon Murphy are two different persons, I think.

  39. Tom Boyle 2 Mar 2010, 6:07pm

    Simon I’m thinking you were showing some imagination when I saw you write that maybe we should all have a little think and chat about how dangerous self-asphyxiation for sexual thrills is but then you go and post another message which suggests little imagination at all.

    OK, like I’m a policeman who lives in West Ham and drinks in a local dive and recently some of the lads have been on about the posh TV-presenter queer living just round the corner and how he needs his face rubbing in the mud and then I get called to this death and it turns out to be him, the TV-presenter, and it’s pretty clear to me he was roughed up. Well, I’ve got a horrible feeling I know who it might have been, haven’t I?

    Lack of imagination Simon or maybe you’re a bit young and naive and not aware of the evils of humankind? Countryboy, are you?

  40. John H: ““Spooky”, ROBN? Steady on or you’ll be agreeing that maybe Digby’s death does need looking into!”

    (with) tongue in cheek, ironically or mockingly; insincerely.

    Is it part of the requirement that to be on here means that you have your entire sense of humour surgically removed?

  41. Sense of humour? Could have fooled me, RobN. Your comments have never raised any smiles in front of this monitor, I’m afraid. Maybe you don’t know how to couch your “humour”? Try harder. F.

  42. BrazilBoysBlog 2 Mar 2010, 6:58pm

    @RobN “Is it part of the requirement that to be on here means that you have your entire sense of humour surgically removed?”

    I would sincerely hope not. Equally though, I would hope that it was a requirement to adhere to the old saying about there being ´a right time and place´ for such ´humour´.

    Is the comment section of a news piece about the tragic death of a 32 year old man the right place?

    I think not!

  43. “Today’s post-mortem results came back inconclusive, according to the Metropolitan Police”

    So it “was not” a sex game then?

    I call for the Press Complaints Commission to be disbanded. Before they rule in favor of the homophobic Press!

  44. My goodness, some nonsense written on here today. A man has just suffered an untimely death, so whatever the cause, how about some respect for his memory and the feelings of his loved ones?

    Eddy, you entered into the fray with your first post on the initial report of KD’s death. In that, you associated his demise with those of Stephen Gateley and Lee McQueen, and wondered if this suggested some kind of plot agains gay men. Notwithstanding that one died of natural causes and the other committed suicide following his mother’s death.

    Having, presumably, recognised that such conjecture was class A piffle, you resume the topic here by arguing that because he died in the hinterlands of West Ham, and because some West Ham FC supporters are homophobic (really?), then that raises a high probability that he was murdered. And much consequent speculation about a police cover up, etc, etc.

    Aside from the fact that these fervid speculations can do no honour to his memory or his mourners, there is another reason why some posters here, including me, find your comments offensive.

    Jan Moir, in her notorious post mortem on Stephen Gateley, used his death as the starting point to give full vent to her prejudices, in the absence of any reference to the facts, and reach the conclusion that he’d brought his end upon himself.

    You indulge in similar unsubstantiated speculation, allied with some of your own prejudices, to conclude that the man may have been murdered. And I can’t really see that your error is either lohically or morally any less culpable than JM’s. The both espouse a kind of victim-hood, and they are both equally offensive.

    Ton Boyle – speechless at your posts, but have you ever met a gay policeman? I’m not about to pretend the MPS is perfect, but I think they’re slightly better than you think.

    Then RobiNa weighs in. Oooh Robbie, dear, can’t you see how tedious you are?

    RobiNa you see, likes nothing more than to get a rise out of people with her splenetic tropes, and ceaselessly confuses cynicism and nastiness with being worldly-wise, while wasting no opportunity to externalise the homophobia that would be better left in. Zzzzzz….

    Nevertheless, I’m glad to be directed to the West Ham FC web-site, which I’d not normally trouble with. Seems to explain why the FA experineces such difficulty in tackling H-P, at the very least. Perhaps a useful thing would be to write to the FA and WHFC to point out the filth being published on the web-site?

  45. Kristian will be very much missed.

    He’d be laughing though , being that some of you slagged him off on here!!

  46. Chameleoni, what a lot of high and mighty crap! it’s perfectly reasonable to be cautious as to the man’s death. Why the hell do you think R4 said in the news at 6pm tonight that police had arrived at the conclusion that no one else had been involved in the death????? Answer: because the question has to be asked and people have been asking it. Trouble is I for one cannot know whether to trust the police or not. A body gets found and the police take over, no one else gets a look in. As some people have been saying, police corruption is documented and common. So get off your high horse Chameloni.

  47. go on, pete, join the list…

  48. Jean-Paul Bentham 3 Mar 2010, 1:54am

    z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z…

  49. Sister Mary clarence 3 Mar 2010, 1:56am

    Chameleon – nicely and concisely put. Its a wonder some of these people ever leave the house.

    Would it kill people just to wait a day or two to find out exactly what has gone on?

  50. Please, can we have just a little respect here. At present there is no reason to think that a cause of death will not be established at some point. It’s a little early for conspiracy theories.

    The end of a youn life is tragic, especially if it’s in a needdless, avoidable way. It’s unfortunate if the suggested cause of auto-erotic asphixiation is true. It would be particulary difficult, I’m sure, for some family and friends to face. And it will probably be used by some commentators to further anti-gay agendas (as if only gay men get horny, and sometimes reckless). But that is little compared to the loss of a life. And none of this makes the loss any less tragic.

    Obviously Pink News is in the difficult possition of whether or not to report what information is being reported elsewhere. I’d like to know what that is; have no intention of reading The Sun but it can be illuminating to know what they are saying. Balanced against that is whether what is being reported is factual OR of sufficient interest in the very fact that it IS being reported. I’m not sure whether Pink News was correct in it’s judgement here or not. I’m sure it was considered, and I would also hope that it’s judgement would be reflected on and given further consideration over the next little while.

    But, for now, I think it appropriate to have respect for, and mourne, the loss of a young life, that of what seems to have been a decent person who tried to do some good for his community.

    May he Rest in Peace.

  51. Why does so much of this particular thread remind me of this sketch from Mitchell and Webb?

  52. Pete & Michael 3 Mar 2010, 8:48am

    RIP Kristian, you gave us a reason for living, seeing your entertaining programmes showed the uk gay community that being gay was no bar to fronting mainstream television programmes. You will be sadly missed but not forgotten.

  53. Pete & Michael “RIP Kristian, you gave us a reason for living”

    Living? Bloody hell, you two can’t out much if a crummy daytime TV show is all you have to keep you from fading away.
    Nice bloke and all that, but go easy.

  54. I will miss him it’s so sad.I think he was a real role model to gay men rip kristian x

  55. RobN – you ignored the rest of Pete & michael’s comment

  56. The police are implicated in the suicide of 4 gay men in Cornwall last year. Aside from the accusations by pink pasty, I know the ex of one of the men and the accusations have justification. Who is incestigating these accusations…um…the accused! Despite my unanswered letter to my MP on the matter, the homophobia of Devon and Cornwall police is being investigated internally. Fail.

    Having experienced the police for myself, I can argue for them to certainly not be neutral when it comes to LGBT people. This is not a specific accusation in this particular case, but I for one would be wary of every police statement made. In my experience, the police are capable of mouthing the right platitudes and doing the opposite.

    I am so sorry for this man and hope suspicions prove unfounded.

  57. RobN is got to be he worst human in he world, i think there should be a law where all homophobic attacks and hate can be delivered to him.
    i really hate you!

  58. yeah matt – its funny that so many people seem really threatened just because someone else has a different opinion.

    sucks but hey truth hurts eh?

  59. matt, i know where you’re coming from. take no notice of Stevie T. he probably isn’t aware of all the stuff that RobN comes outwith

  60. Chas is right
    RobN spouts lots of drivel

  61. Darlo Debs 12 Mar 2010, 9:29pm

    Honestly, the way you lot are going on you sound like a bunch of poofs.

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