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Australian presenters to be investigated for ‘anti-gay’ remarks

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  1. I really can’t even begin to care about this story.

    While Johnny Weir remains ensconsed in the closet then I can’t really be bothered being offended.

    there’s no reason for Weir to be in the closet after all. He’s not from Uganda or Iran.

  2. Har Davids 26 Feb 2010, 1:26pm

    This is being PC to the ninth!! A couple of guys make silly jokes and there’s an official investigation, while at the same time we hear about homophobic rants in socalled places of worship; what are the priorities these days?

  3. Har Davids (2) wrote “This is being PC to the ninth!!”.

    It’s interesting how people’s perceptions of what is/isn’t homophobia vary, isn’t it. I always seem to be adding my two-penn’orth from the other side of the argument, but I think these presenters were spouting homophobic claptrap and should be brought to book for it.

    If there is gentle fun about gay stereotypes, or any kind of joke that could be turned around into a joke about a heterosexual, I’m never going to complain about it.

    But these guys were attacking one particular guy. If I’d been in a pub and heard such a conversation I’d have responded in kind; but this wasn’t a pub, it wasn’t a comedy sketch, it was – like Gary Burns said – national television. They were representing their country in Olympics sports commentary.

  4. Your just as bad as Mike Molloy and Eddie McGuire, SimonM. Your assuming Weir is gay without any evidence at all. If Weir is gay he might still be in the mental process of excepting he is and that’s for Weir alone to work out.

    Who are you to judge Weir and tell him what to do SimonM?

  5. Yep, they were spouting homophobic “humour” and that’s simply not acceptable. Glad to see they will at least have to endure the embarrassment of an investigation.

    Australia is a long way from civilization, down there at the bottom of the world. A lot of Australians need to be knocked into line.

  6. wolfeyesmn 26 Feb 2010, 3:07pm

    I think this episode says more about the commentator’s obsession with homosexuality that it does Johnny Weir. Those two blokes should be made aware of what they say about themselves.

  7. Pumpkin Pie 26 Feb 2010, 4:12pm

    Personally, I’d like to give Weir a good “investigating”. <3

    Anyways, big difference between good-natured humour and trying to humiliate someone, and big difference between chatting to mates in the pub and broadcasting your views on national television.

  8. No 4: Abi1975: “Your just as bad as Mike Molloy and Eddie McGuire, SimonM. Your assuming Weir is gay without any evidence at all.”

    I have a pair of eyes and ears. And Weir sets my gay antennae off.

    It’s not scientific, sure, but seriously, surely even you can see that the likelihood of his being gay is extremely high.

    He is not a child. he is an adult. And he is closetted. He refuses to discuss his sexuality. Oh yes I realise he may be straight. But how many straight men remain closeted about his heterosexuality.

    In light of the horrific conditions that exist for LGBT people in places like Uganda; Malawi; Kenya; Jamaica; Saudi Arabia; Iran; Yemen etc etc, I have precious little sympathy for closet cases who choose to remain closeted for no valid reason.

    To acknowledge one’s sexuality is not exactly making a martyr of himself.

  9. Mihangel apYrs 26 Feb 2010, 5:50pm

    SimonM: the gossip is that despite fine performances he’s already lost medals because of his assumed sexuality: not a big thing of course, except for someone making a bid for an olympic medal.

    He seems a nice boy, with no ax to grind

  10. to think that a male ice skater might be gay? HOW VERY DARE THEY!

  11. Jean-Paul Bentham 26 Feb 2010, 7:19pm

    “Australian gay rights activist Gary Burns made an official complaint about the remarks, while Channel Nine also received angry emails about the pair.”

    I give 100% support to gay activists, and that includes Australia’s Gary Burns. I hope McGuire and Molloy get the sack, and that whoever chose them to be Olympic commentators is ‘encouraged’ to apologize to the ICO 2010.

    As for Johnny Weir, his attitude is nothing short of surprisingly mature, but then Johnny Weir is an Olympic Athlete, and a champion, isn’t he.

  12. Can I just point out that someone who doesn’t want to discuss his sexuality is not the definition of closeted. He never claimed to be straight. In my book that doesn’t make him closeted.

    I’ve heard his press conference and I think he dealt with the issue masterfully and gracefully. He wasn’t fazed about the attack on himself but saddened about the effect that these words can have on people who are not as strong, or as protected as he is by the support of his fans.

    I think he’s given a great example of maturity which I can’t say about some of the comments on here. Why would gay people always have to account for who they sleep with? Where does it say that we have to pigeon-hole ourselves into defining our sexuality in a way that makes it manageable and easy for casual homophobes to comment on?

  13. At school we all used to love it when a teacher came in and kicked off by playing “Simon Says”! Little did we realise it was just a way of conditioning us all to do exactly as he or she directed!

    SimonM requires every gay person to be out of the closet, no excuses, but as for assisting them to die with dignity, no way!

    I’m beginning to wonder if simply requiring the opposite of what people wish is what Simon is all about!

    You wanna stay in the closet? Simon says NO.

    You wanna die with dignity? Simon says NO.

  14. Well said, Valerio. Why shouldn’t he keep his private life private? I think some people – these two commentators being a good example – have an immature and worrying interest in what other people do in bed. I can cope with young teens giggling about it, but two grown men is pathetic. Even if Weir did choose to talk abour his sexuality, I wouldn’t want him to do so just because of these two idiots.

  15. Jean-Paul Bentham 27 Feb 2010, 5:13am

    ‘I think that to be a great athlete you have to be an interesting person’
    …………..Johnny Weir

  16. Jean-Paul Bentham 27 Feb 2010, 5:19am

    “It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile,
    Be yourself no matter what they say.”
    …………….Sting

    By those standards, Johnny Weir is one hell of a man.

  17. If you are going to put your thoughts out there for all to see Har Davids and Abi 1975… Do try getting you spelling and grammar right as doing otherwise tends to render your comment risable…….Har Davids…its Nth ot Ninth And Abi1975….Its Accepting not excepting Look it up…you know im right. Also whether Weir is in the closet or not is beside the point…… The comments were still homophobic and these thugs shouldn’t be allowed to air them on international airwaves.

  18. SimonM,

    You seen to have a problem with this guys sexuality. Not everyone wants to ‘come out’ and shout they are gay from the rooftops. Even more, if he is gay, what business is it of yours??

    If the guy were actively condemming gay people, yet hiding his own homosexuality, then it would be a different matter. That is not the case here.

    The guy doesn’t talk about his sexuality, and that is his choice. He is an ice skater, and that is what he does and importantly, what he talks about.

    The silly remarks made by the commentators were just odious, and not what you expect from adults. I’m sure there are plenty other people who would happily do their job, with more style, more skill, and without deliberately trying to offend those participating.

  19. Jean-Paul Bentham 27 Feb 2010, 6:56pm

    The fact that this incident occurred in Canada, where “40 Years of Gay Rights” were celebrated last year, is most significant to me.

    As part of its “Safe Schools Campaign”, EGALE Canada (www.egale.ca) launched a national school climate survey called “Youth Speak Up about Homophobia and Transphobia in Canadian Schools”.

    Out of 1,700 participants, nine out of ten transgender students, six out of ten LGB students, and three out of ten straight students were verbally harassed because of their EXPRESSION OF GENDER.

    Moreover, the “Face of Hate Crimes in Canada” reveals that Sexual Orientation was one of the top three motivations for hate crimes; 56.3% of all hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation were violent; and the second most likely place for hate crimes to be committed was in educational facilities.

    Support Egale Canada: become a member. It’s free!

  20. Patrick, why don’t you find a big cliff and jump off it grammar Nazi.

  21. guys, stop jumping on each other for a minute and consider a couple of things.

    The issue here is not whether Johnny Weir is gay or straight. The issue is this…

    1) These two commentators clearly think calling him gay is an insult, because they perceive a gay man as less of a man than a straight one. Long way to go still for reall acceptance of gays as equal to heteros!

    2) They clearly thought these comments were aceeptable and permissable on the radio. In an age when putting a man down for race or something of that sort would surely mean dismissal, having a pop at a man’s sexuality merely results in an investigation.

    3. Whether it was a joke or not, how do we educate children to accept that gays are not freaks or abominations or something to either fear or point fingers at if people in positions of perceived authority do this? They aren’t a pair of plonkers in a pub. They’re on national radio presenting a sports commentary. They have an example to set.

  22. Abi…….Thanks for your intelligent response. Your mistake renders your comment at 4 above, nonsense. You clearly don’t know the difference in the two words. Get out your dictionary and look them up, then call me names.

  23. come on, you’re fighting among yourselves about grammar and spelling. There are REAL enemies out there. Stop it.

  24. Patrick: It is not good netiquette to correct other people’s spelling or grammar. It just makes you look like some smug, self-superior twat that has nothing to say of their own, but everything to say about other people’s opinions.

    Not everyone has Eric Partridge stuck up their arses.

  25. christ you are odious RobN! yet another troll

  26. Jean-Paul Bentham 2 Mar 2010, 5:23am

    “It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile,
    Be yourself no matter what they say.”
    ——Sting

    By those standards, Johnny Weir is one hell of a man.

  27. Jean-Paul Bentham 2 Mar 2010, 9:17pm

    Johnny Weir being interviewed by Larry King on Monday, March 1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaOe0_hkqAI&feature=player_embedded

    This young man is an Olympic Athlete, for sure.

  28. I wasn’t correcting spelling and grammar. I was trying to make sense of the posting RobN, you odious troll…… If you can’t be understood why post?……….. Thanks Jason……

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