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Five men arrested in Kenya over gay wedding plans

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  1. Simon Murphy 12 Feb 2010, 5:15pm

    And now Kenya

    Bigotted dumps all of them.

    Those countries need to realise that we are under no obligation to give them a penny while they are wasting money persecuting minorities.

    I wonder if those US evangelicals are active in Kenya also?

  2. Countires with fully LGBT right and with a minor risk of sexual orientation harassement should show some obligation on recieving people who are arrested, abused, spanked or whatever for being LGBT.

  3. Comment #1
    And now Kenya

    Bigotted dumps all of them.

    And ALL of them formerly part of the British Empire … maybe we should look a lot closer to home to lay [at least some, maybe a lot of] the ‘blame’.

  4. Thomas, FloriDuh, USA 12 Feb 2010, 6:13pm

    One can only wonder if the American bigot evangelical ‘Christians’ spewing forth hatred in ‘Jesus’s’ name have had a hand in this…

  5. Why on earth should we have to assume responsibility for something that happened before we were even born. These are supposed to be countries capable of governing themselves in a civilised manner. That they patently are not is hardly the fault of an Empire long since gone.

  6. AgreeWithEagle 13 Feb 2010, 4:49am

    This is their own fault, not the fault of a formerly colonialist past. They can make up their own minds on these issues. Put the blame squarely on the Africans where it belongs. The same for the child slave trade in Africa, and everything else.

  7. A bit pathetic AndyAS, think the clue in your sentence being the word “formerly” suggests maybe they have their own ideas by now. The Empire hasn’t exsisted for over 60 years so think thats a poor mans excuse. I think even those countries in question would happily tell you that.

  8. Omar Kuddus Gayasylum (uk) 13 Feb 2010, 3:46pm

    I just hope the British Home Office and Government are paying attention.
    How long are LGBTs going to be allowed to suffer without protest from the west just for their sexuality.

  9. The tide has begun to change. Thank you all for the pressure you put on us in Uganda which was so intense that it made other African citizens to take a hard look at their societies. this is just the beginning. And by the way, you may cut all your gay-strings-attached aid. China is waiting for just that chance to fill the void. And yes, it is now more liquid than all of you gay apologists.

  10. Omar Kuddus Gayasylum(UK) 13 Feb 2010, 6:31pm

    Does this sound like the Uganda Govt Propaganda machine in action.

    Esp love ” And by the way, you may cut all your gay-strings-attached aid. China is waiting for just that chance to fill the void. And yes, it is now more liquid than all of you gay apologists. “.

    I wish the West would and then see how these african states act.

  11. Jean-Paul Bentham 13 Feb 2010, 7:07pm

    Uganda, Malawi, Kenya and China too are in the process of learning that gay rights are human rights.

    Hasn’t China sent a contestants to Oslo for this evening’s Mr Gay World Competition?

  12. Jean-Paul Bentham 13 Feb 2010, 7:25pm


    Just in case you don’t believe me:
    http://www dot nytimes dot com/2010/02/13/world/asia/13pageant.html?scp=1&sq=Mr%20Gay%20World%20China&st=cse

  13. paul canning 13 Feb 2010, 7:34pm

    There was no ‘gay wedding’. The MSM reports are wrong. It was local media incitement. The men have now been charged and are to be medically examined. There is some truly shocking footage of the riot from local TV. See the real story >

  14. Jean-Paul Bentham 13 Feb 2010, 10:56pm


    Thanks for bringing us back on track, Paul, and also for the amazing insight into this gay panic. The footage does give us an excellent idea of the existing attitudes among the general population.

    The idea seems to be that these five men would have been slaughtered by the mob if the police had not arrested them first.

  15. Mbosaramba 15 Feb 2010, 1:29am

    Good news, however why only 5 and not 5000? Police is understaffed, perhaps.

  16. Mbosaramba 15 Feb 2010, 1:34am

    I’d like personally examine arrested – it should great pleasure to analyze homosexual innermost!

  17. AndyAS @3, don’t blame the Empire. These so called nations have had their independence for over half a century and many are still squabbling in their old tribal fashions, concentrating on murdering the other tribes and not getting on with tackling poverty nand corruption! Mugabee still balmes the Empire for his woes and look at the mess he’s made of Rhodesia/Zimbabwee. African need to grow up and tackle the real problems and being gay must come way way way down the list of social deprivation!!

  18. douglas in canada 15 Feb 2010, 6:14pm

    Canada was also part of the British Empire, but now offers Equal Marriage. The past may have an effect, but I would consider how their more recent history has played a role.

  19. It is very easy to sit in the West and dismiss the impact of colonialism. Anti-gay laws are a direct result of the ‘disgust’ that the Victorian mass murderers who went and invaded various parts of the African continent felt at seeing much acceptance and openness amongst African peoples who often valued diverse sexualities and gender identities. In Kenya British colonialists produced Sections 162 to 165 of the Penal Code which criminalized homosexual behaviour and attempted homosexual behaviour between men, referring to it as “carnal knowledge against the order of nature”. The penalty is 5 to 14 years’ imprisonment (lesbian relations are not mentioned in the law in true Queen Victoria style).

    Colonialists also devastated Kenya: imprisoning almost all of the 1.5 million Kikuyu population in concentration camps and in villages behind barbed wire in response to the Mau Mau rebellion and its demand for Kenya’s independence. The racist colonial government also portrayed Kenyans as inhumane savages. Between 1952 and 1960 100,000 people, perhaps more, died from their imprisonment, due to exhaustion, disease, starvation and sheer physical brutality.

    As in the UK, social change takes time, and involves supporting Kenyan social movements for change, especially when the political elite, religious institutions and police force are all institutionally homophobic. But it is unhelpful to all Kenyans, including LGBT Kenyans, to put all the blame on them and deny the past. In reality, the UK is still battling to combat the impact of its Victorian past despite welcome legislative changes in the past decade: there remains an endemic of homophobic bullying in our schools, workplace harassment and physical attacks on and murders of LGBT people.

    Paul Channing refers us to what seems a credible account of this terrible incident:

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