I don’t want this old bigot loon to be welcome to the UK and good luck to the protest
Count me in!
How did we get into a situation of officially inviting the head of a church who uses almost every opportunity to attack homosexuals and the rights of homosexuals publicly. It seems clear that the state will support him in politically lobbying against equality and basic rights for homosexuals and for special privilege for believers to treat homosexuals badly. What else is his rambling about natural law and equality.
Check out the bile in the guardian that old naziburger has spewed.
I’ll be there
I dont see how protesting against the RCC is secular. It will viewd by your neighbors as more anti-Catholic racism which is constant in British society.
Catholics aren’t a race Don….and as far as i’m aware the Catholic church is not a race, but seemingly an international bunch of child molesting clergy….not to mention of course if the head of state of any other country came out with some of the remarks the pope has made then they would rightly be condemned….and Ratzinger as well as being leader of a church is a head of state….i suppose it comes in handy for money laundering and creating confusion on occasions
Don, Catholics aren’t a race. We’re more like victims of child abuse.
Er Don Catholicism is a belief not a race. Given that it is a belief and that the Church and pope who outline what that belief entails also lobby politically using their beliefs to affect the freedoms and rights of others. Surely others who disagree with those beliefs and political lobbying have a right to protest, criticise and question in a rational and reasonable way without being accused of racism.
I hope the British Tax Payer is not left holding the bill from His Nastynesses visit! My fear is that he will come to Birmingham because of his “love” for Cardinal Newman (strange that such an anti Gay Pope should find an obviously gay man such as the good cardinal his admiration!) The moment he spouts his homophobia over here, he should be deported (now wouldn’t that be a sight to see!) or not let in in the first place would be better!
Count me in also! The catholic church has way too much influence anyway. I support their right to believe whatever they want to believe, but don´t hoist it onto me! (which this pope seeks to do at every chance).
I honestly do believe that this church is EVIL. Given their stated beliefs and doctrine on everything from condom use to equal rights legislation, this church has to be just about ´public enemy number 1´ in my book. To find that British taxpayers (gays/lesbians included) are having to finance this fiasco of a trip is insulting and worthy of protest in itself.
If every person that this nazi has attacked were to turn up and protest his visit, this man would not be able to MOVE anywhere!
Please, please also sign the petition:
I don’t normally do protests.
Count me in!!!
Same with me.
the Pope even condemns equality!:
Shame on you haters! When I was invited to the Vatican (ok ponied up 15 Euros and passed through a turnstile) I was made to feel most welcome in a house full of lovely antiques, with men in frocks and big jewelry, while going down on my knees and fingering my beads. I offered up a Joe Malone candle and left very happy after a confessional with Padre Jim. I for one will be offering Popey a warm hand just like his Padre offered me.
here’s another where he attacks LBG equality and peddles the old BS about what’s natural:
Correct me if I’m wrong, but it is my understanding that ben16 originally refused Gordon Brown’s invitation to visit the UK.
It was only after Tony Blair, the RCC convert, and his lovely ca-atholic wife, what’s-her-name, visited his hollowness…I mean holinass, no I mean holiness, that ben16 changed his mind under pretext, like Mike pointed out above, of claiming the bones of John Cardinal Newman whose dying wish was to buried in the same grave as his life-long companion, Ambrose St-John.
It seems to me that I read somewhere that when Newman’s grave was dug up recently, there was nothing in it but his cardinal’s red hat and a strand of hair.
Newman never did want the red hat in the first place and rumour has it that he and Ambrose are resting in peace in the same grave in some unknown locality, but don’t quote me on that; I’m just an old, bitter, queer, ex-catholic gossiper.
ben16 in Great Britain…now I’ve seen everything, or have I? ben 16 might make an extended trip to Haiti, or Uganda, or Tehran to see the hangings. Did I say that??
The damned old wasted hater must not come here at all in the first place let alone protesting. The first thing we have to do is to campaign against him coming by creating and signing a petition – I have signed. If that fails, let us protest and I am in for both plans especially to achieve stoping him.
The Foreign Office should ask him explicitly if he intends to instruct British Catholics in the name of his Apostolic Authority to break the law. If he says Yes or is even evasive, he should be barred from the country in the name of Law and Order.
If he says No we can enjoy seeing him get a kicking from the other Counter-Reformation loonies and otherwise just ignore him.
Good on the Pope,about time some of our few non queer politicians started following the will of the main population of this country and condemned homosexuality for the perversion that it is.
Catholics are distinct separate ethnic group. Bigotry against an ethnic group is considered racism. Like being anti-Jewish is considered racist. Whats are your views on Jewish Koshers in regards to homosexuality?
One minority cannot rise by stamping on another minority. Again I highlight Britain’s long history of oppressing Catholics and other non-Anglicans.
I’m not Catholic by the way.
Poor Don is deluded and clearly not very bright. Roman Catholicism is a chosen religion. Ethnicity means a racial characteristic such as being black e.g. Afro-American or Afro-Caribbean or Asian or Chinese or Jewish etc. Ethnicity cannot be chosen; religion can and often is! Being Jewish is not chosen whereas the religion of Judaism is. There are those who have chosen Judaism as a religion but who are not Jews. To attack Islam is not racism for Islam is a religion and not a race. Does poor Don understand that?
I was wondering when you would pop up again, Monkeychops, and what stupid name you would use.
Homophobia is a mental illness; homosexuality is not, and you know it.
What in hell does this old freak know about “natural,” he is a circus of everything unnatural.
Let’s all make absolutely damn SURE we are out there on the streets LOUDLY protesting against this old fool and his deluded church when he visits.
No excuses. This is major. Let’s really ROCK the bugger, give him one HELL of a shock!
Spread the word amongst all your friends, gay and straight. Whatever protests the National Secular Society or anybody else organises, LET’S ALL MAKE SURE WE ARE THERE!
What an ARSE
Im pleased he has come out of his closet and let the world know what he thinks and why they should turn thier back on him in protest !!!
count me in …
Good sentiments, but petitions take time to organise and collate – and has anyone ever had a petition actioned when sent to politicians? I mean, look at the farce that is the No. 10 site!
Protestations likewise – 1,000,000 marching against war?
This though still leaves another possible avenue surely?
I seem to recall only about a year ago that Fred Phelps and his Phamily Phreaks were denied entry to the UK as there presence was deemed unacceptable; whilst only spouting the same bigotted bile as the “former” fashist, Ben16.
At that time, Jacqui Smith said (as quoted in PN) “I think it’s important that people understand the sorts of values and sorts of standards that we have here, the fact that it’s a privilege to come and the sort of things that mean you won’t be welcome in this country.
“Coming to this country is a privilege. If you can’t live by the rules that we live by, the standards and the values that we live by, we should exclude you from this country and, what’s more, now we will make public those people that we have excluded.”
Can any gay/secular solicitor explain to us why this does not apply to the Bishop of Rome too (as non-catholics should rightly refer to him)?
The church [any flavor] was happy when we were all ignorant.
Now that we have learned that the world is NOT flat, and the earth goes around the sun [not the other way around], the church is getting nervous, because we are beginning to discover that so much of what they told us was a lie.
Without our ignorance, they have no power. So they are afraid. They have moved into defense mode and are simply trying to stay alive in a time when we outsiders already recognize their demise.
I wasn’t going to say it, but…what a demented old fool. Nice spray tan, though.
Count me in.
There is no way this evil man should be allowed to “grace” our shores. Well done to Keith (27) for pointing out the law of our land, maybe we need to remind our Government of their legislation…