Lets get our act together so this doesn’t happen again.

Hitler had his convictions also. Which included hatred of the Jews, which of course came from the monstrosity siting in rome. Now headed by a german pope He leveraged that hatred to gain election, and the result was WWII and the HOlocasut and 50 million died.

So did the Catholic church when it joined with corrupt kings and emperors, and from 900-1500 murdered as many as 50 million Muslims in the crusades.

If there was a god, the vatican would be nothing but a smoking hole, where the volcanic fires underneath would come up bullseye, and put the torch to their lies and filth. Which include their new hatred – the gays.

Not one penny for them.

I agree that this is an indication of how the tories will be after the election and it does just show the farcical reality of the ´new´ tories.

Even if the tory party in the commons were to be ´progressive´, clearly their prehistoric colleagues in the lords would simply vote them down.

I am thankful that the EU will be a much better guardian of our civil liberties than our own ´second chamber´, the unelected and tory dominated lords.

There are very few votes in the House of Lords where the bishops make the difference between winning and losing.

After a concerted campaign by bishops and some other Christian groups, the amendment was carried by just 5 votes – 177 to 172. Eight bishops voted for the amendment. Several of their number were also instrumental in bringing it forward in the first place.

See the full story here:
http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/11101

http://services.parliament.uk/LordsDivisionsAnalysis/session/2009_10/division/20100125/number/3/show/oth/NotContent#othnotcontent

However, had the bishops not been there, or if there had been a better Labour support, or if some LibDems hadn’t chosen to suppport illiberality, then the bill would have falled

This is a reason to get rid of the Lords, they are totally unaccountable

http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpid=1997&dmp=826

I hope the EU overturn this travesty of justice very soon. You can’t allow one group to be exempt from the law.

Did not Oliver Cromwell say a similar thing as you to the Lords?

Its strange how little the upper house has changed since 1651!

If Cameron and his party have changed, why isn’t he supporting full civil marriage quality for gays and civil partnerships for straights who choose not to marry? The fact of the matter is, he won’t because he’s in lock-step with the House of Lords that is stacked with his party members. The tories are not much different than labour. So much for the alledged “change” among the tories.

As Shadow minister for Community Cohesion and Social Action, Baroness Warsi would, in the event of Conservative victory, indeed become the cabinet minister with responsibility for equality:

http://www.conservatives.com/People/Peers/Warsi_Sayeeda.aspx

Comment # by John(Derbyshire)

Yesterday, after Sister Mary claimed that Anne Widdecombe was not typical of the “changed” Conservative party, I offerd an invitation to come back onto this site today to post the vote broken down by party.

For some reason, we are still waiting.

The fact is that there are only 26 bishops in the Lords and not all of them were there to vote last night.

It was the Conservative peer Baroness O’Cathain and Conservative front bencher Baroness Wasi who led overwhelming numbers of Conservative peers into the lobby alongside a handful bishops and rebels from the other parties to vote against equality.