It is a shame that this went on for so long. We, as a human race really have to stepup our game on correcting these injustices!
primitives ! the most primitive ,prejudist & UNAWARE SOCIETY on planet.
disgrace for the humanrace,
Overcompensate .make up , counterbalance & pay up for all tese Etrocity years.
Interested in the fine print. Is one supposed to be on HAART, of a certain range of the surrogate markers…who does HIV status nolonger count at all…is a test still conducted or is one expected to declare their status?
Considering it used to take up to three weeks to get the results from an HIV test, I really can’t see the problem.
You just lie through your teeth and walk through.
Robn: the problem is that the ban also applied to residency for which you were previously tested for HIV. The ban now means that bi-national couples can reside together regardless of status.
As a matter of human dignity, HIV sufferers should never had had to resort to lies to justify their existence or presence. Good news and thank you Obama administration.
Stewart: I fully agree with your sentiments, but I am merely pointing out the stupidity of the situation in real-world terms. They couldn’t possibly enforce this ban in the first place, so what was the point?
Not to mention the fact that the USA was the primary source of HIV infection in the first place, the yanks have a downright f_cking cheek.
RobN the ban was enforced and I can tell you first hand that it has taken a huge toll on those of us who have had their residency revoked and been forced to relocate, so by stating you “really can’t see the problem” you trivialise a significant step forward for HIV sufferers. As for you comment that the US was the primary source of HIV infection, what difference does it make whether HIV originated in Africa or the US or anywhere else? Unless of course you’re simply out to repeat your constant denigration of Americans…
RobN you ignore a significant point made in the original article: the ban prevented HIV conferences and expertise being shared in the US where a significant portion of research is conducted. To state that the ban was unenforceable when a direct result of the legislation meant these meetings could not take place, and to Stewart’s point that folk were deported based on their status shows that not only WAS the law enforced but that it also had a damaging and discriminatory effect on people’s lives and HIV research. As for “lying through your teeth”, why the hell should anyone suffering from an illness have to be further dehumanised by denying what they are?
“Blanket entry bans have no justification on public health grounds and only increase stigma…” Lisa Power dares to say that? This is the same Lisa Power who thinks that all men who have ever had sex men with men should be banned from giving their ‘sustandard’ blood for life? Thought so. lisa, you’re part of the problem; don’t rejoice when a foriegn country sees the light and you continue to support discrimination in the UK.
Grinch: One would have thought that as Americans had so much experience, and where not directly responsible, had a marked effect on it’s spread across the globe, that they would have felt at least somewhat obliged to take a lead in removing the stigma of HIV/AIDS, yet they did their usual closed-door policy and just ignored everyone. And as for denigrating Americans, I don’t need to, they are doing a grand job of that all by themselves.
DaveP: I stated that it was an unsatisfactory situation, but when push comes to shove, you just say “f_ck ‘em” and carry on regardless. Nobody wants to lie, but if it gets you there, than so be it. As for living there, would you want to live in a country that discriminated against you because of an illness?
Groucho Marx springs to mind with his famous quote “I would never join any club that would have me as a member”.
Im not going to give any fanfare congrats for this move, it is 22 years long coming but I will admit it makes life easier and this is good. People with HIV do not be forced to lie or act as criminals anymore. I never appreciated being bundled up with terrorists and members of Nazi groups. My employer is pleased they do not need to organize alternative routes around the USA anymore and as for me, I can be at ease when transiting the USA. What will happen now to all those non-American citizens that had their passports stamped when rejected into the USA due to their HIV status – i.e during the gay olympics. … that would be interesting to know. Anyhow I wish everyone a happy 2010 and peace to all. We can only hope that acts of goodwill continue throughout the world for a further 365 days and not only be confined to commercialized speak during the Xmas, New Year break!
I forget to ask, does that mean that they have removed the HIV box to tick/cross when entering the USA on a flight?
“when push comes to shove, you just say “f_ck ‘em” and carry on regardless. Nobody wants to lie, but if it gets you there, than so be it.”
RobN you sound like a consciousless parasite who is completely self-centred. What you say in all of your posts above takes into account nobody but yourself and your own welfare. You just don’t consider all the other different kinds of people there are in all sorts of different situations.
Yes, Pink News, please tell us what this lifting of the ban means IN PRACTICE? When you arrive in the US are you still to be confronted with questions about your status? And if you carry HIV drugs with you, are you to declare them or sweat in the hope they don’t find them and then question you about them?
Peebo: “You sound like a consciousless parasite who is completely self-centred.”
Blimey. You’ve got every gay man I’ve ever encountered in a nutshell!
“(United Nations) The United Nations praised the United States and South Korea on Monday for lifting travel bans on people with HIV and urged 57 other countries with travel restrictions to end them quickly.”
For complete article see 365gay.com
Long overdue!!! – and I am 23 years old!!!!
It was a stupid law. The former Howard Government proposed this plan back in 2006 as I protested in Canberra about this proposed hateful law that encourages discrimination and hatred of people who are HIV positive individuals.
HIV positive individuals are human beings that should not be discriminated against or denied treatment that is needed to increase their life expandancy.
It is very surprising about the myths in 2010 about HIV are still rampant (15,789 people (ages 17 to 47) surveyed in Nov 2009 America – for example:
* 7 in 10 people still believe that you can get HIV by standing next to someone or hugging someone.
* 5 in 10 people still believe that HIV can be carried by mosquitoes.
* 4 in 10 people still believe that only gay men are HIV positive.
* and 3 in 10 think that all gay men are HIV positive.
Thanks for those stats, Paul.
The law was a big mistake because it forced hiv positive people to lie about their status and curbing efforts of educate the public about this disease ….Africa has tv chanels dedicated to hiv education……WELL DONE OBAMA