Dr Rowan Williams should repent and resign. He has lost all moral authority and credibility for his criticism of the appointment of the lesbian bishop but yet he still stays quiet on Uganda’s proposed genocide of homosexuals. I would of thought the criticism would be more warranted the other way around. Mary Glasspool should be offering plenty of words of criticism of the Archbishops lack of action and leadership on Uganda.
I strongly hope that the American Episcopalian branch once and for all severs all ties with the Anglican Communion, starving it of the bulk of revenue it receives to support its missionary work in the emerging nations of Africa and elsewhere. Deprive it of oxygen (money)and it will disintegrate into oblivion where it belongs. My gut feeling is that the coward Williams will back off if that ever comes to fruition. I hope it does.
Susan Russell is from All Saints, Pasadena, she is such a fighter.
Good for her.
Why do people expect Rowan Williams “to exercise moral leadership to protect gays and lesbians”?????
Rowan Williams is a member of a group of deluded people who believe, despite all the investigations of science, that there IS supernatural life here on earth, that there is a “God” at work here on earth, that there are angels, a Devil, and that somewhere round here there is one very crowded place called “Heaven” which is full of people who have died but who are still “living” but in a different form!
Why do people expect someone who believes all this shamelessly invented gobbledegook and voodoo to show fearless leadership?
Someone who believes the nonsense that Rowan Williams believes is quite clearly simple-minded and incapable of real bravery.
I think you all should consider ‘retracting’ Williams if he doesn’t retract his misogynist statement.
I’d be very surprised if the good Archbishop (cough, cough) says WORD ONE in the way of retracting what he said about the election of Bishop-elect Mary Glassool. He has all those disaffected Anglicans to please so they don’t go running to Bennie XVI. Spineless twit.
This is Susan Russell’s blog:
Well if anyone ever doubted the absolute irrelevancy of the Anglican Communion in general and the Church of England in particular this episode should quiet all discussions and or questions. When the Archbishop of Canterbury is upstaged by a right wing evangelical salesman otherwise known as a pastor who has never supported the human rights of gay folke it is indeed a sorry day for this dying branch of Christianity. What this poor diplomat in episcopal attire does not understand is that even in the Anglican Communion it is necessary sometimes at least to say without equivocation where you stand on an issue. If you try as Anglicans and Episcopalians have tried for years to be all things to everyone you become nothing to everybody. He and the pope along with most of the bishops of the church universal are so irrelevant to the lives of most people that they could piss off the Tower Bridge and no one would take note. If he and others like him are not very careful they wont even have the “choir” to preach to soon. The Gospel does not teach exclusion but it does condemn hate!
Rowan Williams will not retract anything, he’s far too busy pandering to thr clergy who oppose women Bishops, in case they do join Razinger’s gang of ‘Judas’s’ into the RC fold. But will thos decenting Clergy want to be assosiated with the Irish latest sex abuse of children that has come to light?
Bernard – I hope you aren’t calling LBG perverts
Of course Bernard is calling us perverts. As if he is any position to judge. That’s the problem with all these homophobes. They simply cannot get past what we DO. But it’s just fine with him if someone who may have some spiritual influence fails to intercede in a situation where innocent people will be imprisoned and forced to undergo “therapy”. That’s just fine with Pervard–er. Bernard.
“There’s no easy way out. If there were, I would have bought it. And believe me, it would be one of my favorite things!”
Oprah Winfrey (1954 – ), O Magazine, February 2005
Bernard, if you are calling us perverts would you not think if anyone knew anything about morality it would be us! Seriously old boy the real perverts are those who pervert the Gospel of Christ to exclude harm and otherwise treat in the most inhuman way other folke! In the words of a dear elderly lady who was Presbyterian and straight “I have lived over 85 years and there is one thing of which I am certain, God does not care where we put what or to whom we put it, but he does care Why we put it there!” Bernard if being true to whom and what the Fearful Artist calls us to be is perversion long live us perverts!!!!
and still no word from old beardie about Uganda, but lots of whittering in the torygraph about the iniquity of govt marginalising faith groups when making policy (well actually not since there is a specific interfaith group the govt sniffs around)….
Don’t be too hard on Bernard. Other people’s sexuality must be a highly charged issue for him and others like him, hence the preoccupation with it.
Comment here on BBC Radio 4′s “Sunday” programme:
I suspect ‘Bernard’ is ‘Rahman’ reincarnated — in other words, a revenant troll. Ignore him.
“That’s not for perverts to speak out about morality.”
Bernard this is the 21st century . . . homosexuality is no longer seen as a sexual perversion by medical science.
Bernard . . . have you just arrived from the 1950s
Bernard . . . this is the 21st century, I think you will find that homosexuals have the same rights as heterosexuals in many western countries.
Ray (160 said: Don’t be too hard on Bernard. Oh boy, is that a leading line or what?
I remember when there was a healthy smile under the archbishops’ eyeglasses. What a circus, eh Rowen!! Why not retire in the Scottish highlands? You wouldn’t want to get in a stew by moving to Rhodesia…what’s it called now…Mugabwe-land. And take b16 withcha. But I ain’t bitter.
what a load of outdated tripe!