Comments on: Australian gay marriage ‘could lead to incest and polygamy’, religious figures say

By: Simon Hukin

Simon Hukin — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:37:38 +0000

I actually wrote the thesis, and have posted it in several places, hence confusion in regard to copy-pasting. I apologise if people were put off by its length. However, my purpose was not necessarily to be entertaining. I was attempting to provide a foundation for the destruction of arguments against the legitimation of homosexuality. I hope some find it useful in addressing those arguments leveled by the misinformed or bigoted. If not, flaming me is not overly useful, as I take no notice of them.

If people are interested in a similar (if much shorter, and less well referenced) article on Polygamy, I direct them to an article by my friend Chad Satterlee on the Australian Fabian Young Writers’ Awards website:
http://www.youngwriters.org.au/youngwriters/viewEntry.asp?166

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:33:39 +0000

I believe the Ozzie PM also said the word CRAP in parliament this week; I am sure me Bercow would not allow that….(!)

By: Scott Grundy

Scott Grundy — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:54:13 +0000

Check out Australia’s political scene now. The major conservative party have elected a guy with the nickname of “The Mad Monk” to lead them to the next election.
Pundits are predicting as a result the Greens led by out gay man, rights activist and of course environmentalist will gain the balance of power with Labor in the next Parliament.
Senator Stephen Fielding will lose his seat.
So all in all things are looking good for gay marriage into the future.

By: AngieRS

AngieRS — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:11:52 +0000

Bless `em, they just can’t help themselves, can they?

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:43:38 +0000

‘Josephine’: “why would a guy want to marry another guy?”
‘Daphne’: “Security!”

‘Daphne:’ “Hell Osgood; I’m a man!”
‘Osgood:’ “No body’s perfect!”

By: Damo

Damo — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:24:25 +0000

Check out, Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage to Everyone Else on youtube. It really sums it all up really.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:45:26 +0000

Kitty Channel…Are you a tin of Cat Food?

By: Brenton

Brenton — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:40:54 +0000

Being a ‘CERTAIN’Families First Senator leads to madness!!!!!

By: the.kitty.channel

the.kitty.channel — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:13:35 +0000

I totally agree with Mark (November 29 @ 21.26). I ordered Sullivan’s book because of Simon’s contribution.

By: douglas in canada

douglas in canada — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:51:46 +0000

“Meanwhile, the Australian Christian Lobby said that the new civil union ceremonies “devalue” marriage …”
I wonder if “devalue” is the word they really mean? It just occured to me that maybe these people are simply afraid of losing [or having to share] their privileged status, because that is what marriage often is – a privileged state. They want the all the so-called benefits of marriage for themselves, and don’t want to share them.

By: Mark

Mark — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:26:06 +0000

Quotation or not, I for one enjoyed Simon Hulkin’s contribution, which I do not think is ‘drivel’, rather a useful and logically water-tight demolition of pretty much every argument that’s ever been wheeled out ‘against homosexuality’. Thanks for taking the trouble (even if only to copy & paste;-))…

By: Rich

Rich — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:02:25 +0000

The empty headed fundies have absolutely no idea what they are talking about and that goes for empty headed politicians as well. And so ignorance is bliss.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:01:56 +0000

Kitty Channel….Tattle-Tale!

By: the.kitty.channel

the.kitty.channel — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:28:07 +0000

I am not 100% certain but I am under the impression that the posting by Simon Hukin (November 28, 2009 @ 10:34 – sorry, the posting numbers are not displayed here) refers to, and possibly quotes from, a very interesting book called “Same Sex Marriage: Pro and Con”, ed. Andrew Sullivan (Vintage, 1997).

By: the.kitty.channel

the.kitty.channel — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:12:17 +0000

“Some so-called Christian Sects do practice Incest… [etc.]”

Quoted from Tom Lehrer (e.g. in http://adam.pra.to/public/docs/leherer-songs.html ).

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 11:20:49 +0000

Some so-called Christian Sects do practice Incest and Poligamy and like Oedipus Rex you may have heard about his odd complex, his name appears in Freud’s index ‘cos he Loved his Mother. Now his rivels used to say quite a bit,that as a Monach he was quit unfit, but after all they had to admit that he loved his Mother. He loved his Mother like no other, his Daughter was his Sister and his Son was his Brother. One thing that you can depend upon is; he shure knew who a boys best friend is. When he found out what he had done, he tore his eyes out one by one. A tragic end to a Loyal Son who loved his Mother. Now be good and kind to Mother, now and then have a chat, buy her chocolates or Flowers or a brand new hat. But mabey you had better let it go at that! Or you my find yourself with an odd complex….complex! And, you may end up like old Oedipus, I’d rather marry a Duck-billed Platterpus than end up like old Oedipus Rex!

By: Alex, Brisbane, Australia

Alex, Brisbane, Australia — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:56:41 +0000

Steve Fielding is an absolute a*se… nobody here has any respect or understanding of his ‘christian’ values. He’s now claiming to have been molested as a child; hence his homophobia. Really, he just needs to come out of the closet.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:42:10 +0000

The Epistle according to Simon Hulkin,
The point is, are you living in the real world? And Jimmy Carr is a Crap-head!

By: Mal

Mal — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 23:12:38 +0000

So ‘civil unions’ devalues marriage!!! WHAT ABOUT HETEROSEXUAL DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is it that those who claim that gay marriage/civil unions etc… undermines marrige/the family NEVER mention the issue of divorce and hetro adultery.

The reason is that the aim of the homophobic agenda is to make the gay community the scapegoats for the social ills committed by the heterosexual majority. (A bit like the way the Nazis scapegoated the jews in the 1930s)

By: RobN

RobN — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:39:49 +0000

Simon Hukin: Jeezus mate, you’ll need a new keyboard after writing all that drivel. Please be more concise, most of us really can’t be arsed to wade through “War & Peace” just so you can get a point across.