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	<title>Comments on: Alan Cumming and Ben Summerskill receive OBEs</title>
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		<title>By: oatc</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84387</link>
		<dc:creator>oatc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smart big awards and prize money
Is killing off black poetry
It&#039;s not censors or dictators that are cutting up our art.
The lure of meeting royalty
And touching high society
Is damping creativity and eating at our heart.

The ancestors would turn in graves
Those poor black folk that once were slaves would wonder
How our souls were sold
And check our strategies,
The empire strikes back and waves
Tamed warriors bow on parades
When they have done what they&#039;ve been told
They get their OBE&#039;s.

...

Bought and Sold
from &quot;Too Black, Too Strong&quot;
by Benjamin Zephaniah
http://www.benjaminzephaniah.com/content/237.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smart big awards and prize money<br />
Is killing off black poetry<br />
It&#8217;s not censors or dictators that are cutting up our art.<br />
The lure of meeting royalty<br />
And touching high society<br />
Is damping creativity and eating at our heart.</p>
<p>The ancestors would turn in graves<br />
Those poor black folk that once were slaves would wonder<br />
How our souls were sold<br />
And check our strategies,<br />
The empire strikes back and waves<br />
Tamed warriors bow on parades<br />
When they have done what they&#8217;ve been told<br />
They get their OBE&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Bought and Sold<br />
from &#8220;Too Black, Too Strong&#8221;<br />
by Benjamin Zephaniah<br />
<a href="http://www.benjaminzephaniah.com/content/237.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.benjaminzephaniah.com/content/237.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pray, what have either of these people done to deserve such accolades? A self-serving lefty out to feather his own nest, and keep his head down whenever issues might conflict with the Labour government&#039;s, and a third-rate thespian who I have *never* seen in a decent film. Incidentally, if it was royalty that dished out these gongs, we might get a fairer balance instead of Brown&#039;s minions handing out loyalty vouchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pray, what have either of these people done to deserve such accolades? A self-serving lefty out to feather his own nest, and keep his head down whenever issues might conflict with the Labour government&#8217;s, and a third-rate thespian who I have *never* seen in a decent film. Incidentally, if it was royalty that dished out these gongs, we might get a fairer balance instead of Brown&#8217;s minions handing out loyalty vouchers.</p>
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		<title>By: Codex</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84286</link>
		<dc:creator>Codex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mike:
I don&#039;t think Stonewall does get public money. It&#039;s funded by its supporters.

Only yesterday the Evening Standard reported that Stonewall&#039;s sister quango The Equality and Human Rights Commission had awarded it £148,000. Stonewall well and truly has its snout in the taxpayer trough. Oink!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike:<br />
I don&#8217;t think Stonewall does get public money. It&#8217;s funded by its supporters.</p>
<p>Only yesterday the Evening Standard reported that Stonewall&#8217;s sister quango The Equality and Human Rights Commission had awarded it £148,000. Stonewall well and truly has its snout in the taxpayer trough. Oink!</p>
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		<title>By: oatc</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84266</link>
		<dc:creator>oatc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clay:
 &#124; I suspect our full marriage equality will come sooner 
 &#124; than we think, through Europe, but that&#039;s another story…

Some hope, since marriage is specifically excluded from the powers of all European bodies. Instead it is left to the individual national governments to decide on moral grounds. The only open avenue there is on the grounds of religious discrimination, since all legal barriers to sexual minorities were or are promoted by certain religions on the grounds of morality, and discriminating on religious grounds is a high level infringement of human rights. But no one shows any sign of being prepared to open that can of worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clay:<br />
 | I suspect our full marriage equality will come sooner<br />
 | than we think, through Europe, but that&#8217;s another story…</p>
<p>Some hope, since marriage is specifically excluded from the powers of all European bodies. Instead it is left to the individual national governments to decide on moral grounds. The only open avenue there is on the grounds of religious discrimination, since all legal barriers to sexual minorities were or are promoted by certain religions on the grounds of morality, and discriminating on religious grounds is a high level infringement of human rights. But no one shows any sign of being prepared to open that can of worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Such a shame those two queens couldn&#039;t have been awarded their prize by the other old Queen. &quot;

LOL, Ben Zeroskill and Nick Pratridge - the Quango Queens!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Such a shame those two queens couldn&#8217;t have been awarded their prize by the other old Queen. &#8221;</p>
<p>LOL, Ben Zeroskill and Nick Pratridge &#8211; the Quango Queens!!</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon, I was a member of CHE and suspect that we agree on more than 90% of everything. Why the rancour? Let&#039;s just move on together. Different people have different approaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon, I was a member of CHE and suspect that we agree on more than 90% of everything. Why the rancour? Let&#8217;s just move on together. Different people have different approaches.</p>
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		<title>By: AngieRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AngieRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a shame those two queens couldn&#039;t have been awarded their prize by the other old Queen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a shame those two queens couldn&#8217;t have been awarded their prize by the other old Queen.</p>
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		<title>By: Not applicable</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84047</link>
		<dc:creator>Not applicable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I am SO with Simon Murphey, Rob (not RobN) &amp; Black Hawk Down on this one. Stonewall has &#039;sold out&#039; LGB &amp; especially &#039;T&#039;  since Angela Mason went and I used to be a regional Stonewall Equality 2000 rep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I am SO with Simon Murphey, Rob (not RobN) &amp; Black Hawk Down on this one. Stonewall has &#8216;sold out&#8217; LGB &amp; especially &#8216;T&#8217;  since Angela Mason went and I used to be a regional Stonewall Equality 2000 rep.</p>
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		<title>By: RobN</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon Murphy: &quot;He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.&quot;

It is quite likely he already has. They always make a discreet request before publicly announcing offers, so they don&#039;t get politically beaten about the head by the gesture by ungrateful, republican tossers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Murphy: &#8220;He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is quite likely he already has. They always make a discreet request before publicly announcing offers, so they don&#8217;t get politically beaten about the head by the gesture by ungrateful, republican tossers.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84017</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonewall and the Terrence Higgins Trust seem to be run by &quot;career homosexuals&quot;.

Both groups have the ear of government but totally ignore the people on whose behalf they claim to speak.

Congratulations to Alan Cumming on his OBE by the way. He deserves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonewall and the Terrence Higgins Trust seem to be run by &#8220;career homosexuals&#8221;.</p>
<p>Both groups have the ear of government but totally ignore the people on whose behalf they claim to speak.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Alan Cumming on his OBE by the way. He deserves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84010</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What exactly is Stonewall&#039;s mandate? And on whose specific behalf are they speaking?&quot;

This is the exact same question that people are currently asking of The Terrence Higgins Trust in light of years of failed and ineffective HIV prevention policy that has served to enrich themselves and the pharma lobby. Gordon Brown even said himself in his World Aids Day message the other day that he is committed to gay men being tested with not a word of getting the HIV rate down. It&#039;s like they have building up the HIV rates with campaigns that could only have encouraged the spread of the disease in order to reach this point where they are pushing testing to the hilt. Why? Yesterday Pink News reported that HIV rates in the UK have increased over 70% since 2001. In case anyone needs reminding that was the year that charities like the THT started taking their orders directly from the Government and have been following their guidelines ever since. Oh yes, and THT&#039;s Chief Exec. received his gong earlier this year. There is something truly rotten in these organisations that jump through Government hoops while treating the communities they are supposed to serve with such utter contempt. Some may be dreading the prospect of a new Tory Government soon, but at least it gives some hope that the revolving doors between the likes of Stonewall/THT and central Government will stop rotating at 80mph...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What exactly is Stonewall&#8217;s mandate? And on whose specific behalf are they speaking?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the exact same question that people are currently asking of The Terrence Higgins Trust in light of years of failed and ineffective HIV prevention policy that has served to enrich themselves and the pharma lobby. Gordon Brown even said himself in his World Aids Day message the other day that he is committed to gay men being tested with not a word of getting the HIV rate down. It&#8217;s like they have building up the HIV rates with campaigns that could only have encouraged the spread of the disease in order to reach this point where they are pushing testing to the hilt. Why? Yesterday Pink News reported that HIV rates in the UK have increased over 70% since 2001. In case anyone needs reminding that was the year that charities like the THT started taking their orders directly from the Government and have been following their guidelines ever since. Oh yes, and THT&#8217;s Chief Exec. received his gong earlier this year. There is something truly rotten in these organisations that jump through Government hoops while treating the communities they are supposed to serve with such utter contempt. Some may be dreading the prospect of a new Tory Government soon, but at least it gives some hope that the revolving doors between the likes of Stonewall/THT and central Government will stop rotating at 80mph&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/25/alan-cumming-and-ben-summerskill-receive-obes/#comment-84000</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No 14: Clay: &quot;Stonewall&#039;s biggest achievement is helping to put us in the mainstream; our rights are basically established and unchallenged, except on the extremes.&quot;

This comment made me laugh.

It&#039;s as if the Campaign for Homosexual Equality; OUTrage!; Gay Switchboard; LGB Societies up and down the country and the millions of LGB people who have come out to their friends, families, colleagues etc didn&#039;t exist.

Who is Stonewall meant to represent? What is their mandate?

How do they engage with the communities they are claiming to represent to decide on policy. 

How many LGB people did they consult before they decided we don&#039;t deserve or need marriage equality? 

Civil partnerships are not going to be taken away from us.

Why is Stonewall refusing to demand marriage equality? Are they scared of upsetting their political masters. Because they are NOT representing the LGB population&#039;s interests by pretending that we are happy with CP&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No 14: Clay: &#8220;Stonewall&#8217;s biggest achievement is helping to put us in the mainstream; our rights are basically established and unchallenged, except on the extremes.&#8221;</p>
<p>This comment made me laugh.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if the Campaign for Homosexual Equality; OUTrage!; Gay Switchboard; LGB Societies up and down the country and the millions of LGB people who have come out to their friends, families, colleagues etc didn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Who is Stonewall meant to represent? What is their mandate?</p>
<p>How do they engage with the communities they are claiming to represent to decide on policy. </p>
<p>How many LGB people did they consult before they decided we don&#8217;t deserve or need marriage equality? </p>
<p>Civil partnerships are not going to be taken away from us.</p>
<p>Why is Stonewall refusing to demand marriage equality? Are they scared of upsetting their political masters. Because they are NOT representing the LGB population&#8217;s interests by pretending that we are happy with CP&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Clay.

If Stonewall wants the support of the LGB population then they&#039;d better start representing the LGB population. And they are not doing that at the moment. Whether or not Stonewall members support legal equality for LGB people or not is largely irrelevant. 

If they are going to position themselves as the voice of the LGB population (which they do!), then they should be representing the LGB population.

Who decided that it was acceptable for Stonewall to agree that access to civil marriage for gay people was unacceptable. It wasn&#039;t me, or anyone I know.

What exactly is Stonewall&#039;s mandate? And on whose specific behalf are they speaking?

Because they are not speaking for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Clay.</p>
<p>If Stonewall wants the support of the LGB population then they&#8217;d better start representing the LGB population. And they are not doing that at the moment. Whether or not Stonewall members support legal equality for LGB people or not is largely irrelevant. </p>
<p>If they are going to position themselves as the voice of the LGB population (which they do!), then they should be representing the LGB population.</p>
<p>Who decided that it was acceptable for Stonewall to agree that access to civil marriage for gay people was unacceptable. It wasn&#8217;t me, or anyone I know.</p>
<p>What exactly is Stonewall&#8217;s mandate? And on whose specific behalf are they speaking?</p>
<p>Because they are not speaking for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know nothing about Simon Murphy apart from his obsession about, and personal animus against, Ben Summerskill that pops up several times on every thread that mentions Stonewall. Less frequently and less vitriolic might be more effective, Simon.

Two substantive points:

1. It&#039;s not an X-factor popularity contest between Peter Tatchell and Ben Summerskill. There&#039;s no one in Britan more personally courageous than Tatchell, who has contributed more than any other single person to gay rights and to broader human rights. I&#039;m sure that Ben would be the first to say that. But Peter alone, and Peter&#039;s approach alone, would not have achieved the advances that we have achieved, and I&#039;m sure Peter would be the first to say that. The approaches are complementary.

2. Stonewall seems to get up some people&#039;s noses for being too...too what? too establishment-orientated, too moderate, too something, maybe too successful. I don&#039;t agree with Stonewall on every stance, and some of its causes affect me personally more than others. But its approach, underpinned with good research, shows the breadth of our interaction at every level of society and culture. Look at its work relating to education, especially about bullying; employment and workplace culture; relationship to &quot;faith&quot; organistations; provision of health services, to name but a few.

Stonewall&#039;s biggest achievement is helping to put us in the mainstream; our rights are basically established and unchallenged, except on the extremes. For the first time ever, we can actually look at the next election and make our decisions on the same basis as &quot;ordinary&quot; citizens, not only on what&#039;s good for us as gay people. And we&#039;re not an issue in the election either.

Yes, I want marriage rather than civil partnership. But I&#039;d rather have - for the time being - UK civil partnership with effective (no, not perfect) legal equality than have a Massachusetts or Iowa marriage that will NEVER bring equality at the US federal level. 

I suspect our full marriage equality will come sooner than we think, through Europe, but that&#039;s another story...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know nothing about Simon Murphy apart from his obsession about, and personal animus against, Ben Summerskill that pops up several times on every thread that mentions Stonewall. Less frequently and less vitriolic might be more effective, Simon.</p>
<p>Two substantive points:</p>
<p>1. It&#8217;s not an X-factor popularity contest between Peter Tatchell and Ben Summerskill. There&#8217;s no one in Britan more personally courageous than Tatchell, who has contributed more than any other single person to gay rights and to broader human rights. I&#8217;m sure that Ben would be the first to say that. But Peter alone, and Peter&#8217;s approach alone, would not have achieved the advances that we have achieved, and I&#8217;m sure Peter would be the first to say that. The approaches are complementary.</p>
<p>2. Stonewall seems to get up some people&#8217;s noses for being too&#8230;too what? too establishment-orientated, too moderate, too something, maybe too successful. I don&#8217;t agree with Stonewall on every stance, and some of its causes affect me personally more than others. But its approach, underpinned with good research, shows the breadth of our interaction at every level of society and culture. Look at its work relating to education, especially about bullying; employment and workplace culture; relationship to &#8220;faith&#8221; organistations; provision of health services, to name but a few.</p>
<p>Stonewall&#8217;s biggest achievement is helping to put us in the mainstream; our rights are basically established and unchallenged, except on the extremes. For the first time ever, we can actually look at the next election and make our decisions on the same basis as &#8220;ordinary&#8221; citizens, not only on what&#8217;s good for us as gay people. And we&#8217;re not an issue in the election either.</p>
<p>Yes, I want marriage rather than civil partnership. But I&#8217;d rather have &#8211; for the time being &#8211; UK civil partnership with effective (no, not perfect) legal equality than have a Massachusetts or Iowa marriage that will NEVER bring equality at the US federal level. </p>
<p>I suspect our full marriage equality will come sooner than we think, through Europe, but that&#8217;s another story&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.&quot;

Not necessarily as it would increase his influence in the field of human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not necessarily as it would increase his influence in the field of human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No 9: Robert: &quot;If anyone deserves an OBE for the fight for full equality its Peter Tatchell who knows far more about it than anyone.&quot;

Indeed but Peter Tatchell is a republican I believe. He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No 9: Robert: &#8220;If anyone deserves an OBE for the fight for full equality its Peter Tatchell who knows far more about it than anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed but Peter Tatchell is a republican I believe. He would refuse an OBE if he was offered it.</p>
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		<title>By: Not applicable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not applicable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonewall will be even more aloof and detatched in their ivory tower within the M25 moat from the realities of abuse &amp; homophobia faced by gay persons from institutions like our vile homophobic police forces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonewall will be even more aloof and detatched in their ivory tower within the M25 moat from the realities of abuse &amp; homophobia faced by gay persons from institutions like our vile homophobic police forces.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Stonewall does get public money. It&#039;s funded by its supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Stonewall does get public money. It&#8217;s funded by its supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert, ex pat Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert, ex pat Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon Murphy, absolutely agree with you.  Summerskill and StonewallUK are useless.  Both oppose full marriage equality and I hope Stonewall goes out of business. Come to think of it, I doubt if Summerskill and Stonewall really know what full equality is about. If anyone deserves an OBE for the fight for full equality its Peter Tatchell who knows far more about it than anyone.  I&#039;d love to see Peter become the national spokesperson on gay isues and equality.  I can&#039;t think of anyone better and more qualified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Murphy, absolutely agree with you.  Summerskill and StonewallUK are useless.  Both oppose full marriage equality and I hope Stonewall goes out of business. Come to think of it, I doubt if Summerskill and Stonewall really know what full equality is about. If anyone deserves an OBE for the fight for full equality its Peter Tatchell who knows far more about it than anyone.  I&#8217;d love to see Peter become the national spokesperson on gay isues and equality.  I can&#8217;t think of anyone better and more qualified.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonewall waste their time on irrelevancies such as &#039;homophobic&#039; number plates on cars (although it&#039;s quite obvious the owners of the cars with the &#039;Dyke&#039; and &#039;Faggot&#039; numberplates who Stonewall went after were gay themselves.)

Likewise why are Stonewall wasting their time campaigning to force churches to perform civil partnerships instead of campaigning for equal access to civil marriage. 

Summerskill does not deserve that award. He deserves a serious wake-up call which tells him his organisation is a relic of the 20th century and that a gay group whose sole purpose is to rubberstamp government policy regarding LGB people, cannot and should not pretend to represent the LGB population (not to mention the Trans population who Stonewall refuse to represent).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonewall waste their time on irrelevancies such as &#8216;homophobic&#8217; number plates on cars (although it&#8217;s quite obvious the owners of the cars with the &#8216;Dyke&#8217; and &#8216;Faggot&#8217; numberplates who Stonewall went after were gay themselves.)</p>
<p>Likewise why are Stonewall wasting their time campaigning to force churches to perform civil partnerships instead of campaigning for equal access to civil marriage. </p>
<p>Summerskill does not deserve that award. He deserves a serious wake-up call which tells him his organisation is a relic of the 20th century and that a gay group whose sole purpose is to rubberstamp government policy regarding LGB people, cannot and should not pretend to represent the LGB population (not to mention the Trans population who Stonewall refuse to represent).</p>
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