Comments on: Tatchell: ‘Alan Carr and Graham Norton are camp and cliched’

By: Sarah

Sarah — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 11:05:31 +0000

This is just another reason why I don’t like Tatchell. He’s another one of these “only me” brigade. Alan Carr and Graham Norton have prime time shows because they’ve earned them through being funny and bloody hard work. There are loads of gay people in tv, film and radio and how many camp men do we all know? Tons I’m betting, as well as lots of “straight acting” gay men you woudn’t even think we’re gay, but don’t we all fit some kind of stereotype, either by facts of life or choice?

By: David

David — Sun, 24 Apr 2011 09:07:04 +0000

These types of outbursts are ridiculous and seriously undermine Thatchell’s credibility. There are plenty of gay men on British television and I’d say it’s a pretty diverse crowd. If there is a problem with representation it’s that there aren’t enough lesbians, but of course gays don’t care about that. The fact that a lot of people don’t realise that half these people are gay (as many of them don’t conform to gay stereotypes and don’t wear signs around their necks stating they’re gay) might give them the impression that there are more camp gay profiles on tv as there is no questions about Graham Norton’s sexuality. That does not make it a valid argument.

By: Ben

Ben — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 02:39:42 +0000

Hmmm. Don’t know if it counts but Matt Lucas is gay in real life and doesn’t come across as camp when interviewed at least. Another is the character Aaron from Emerdale, who most definitely doesn’t camp it up.
Agreed there are more camp gay men on TV than not. But surely the public aren’t so naive to think all gay men are camp? The only common ground most gay men share, is their desire to be in same sex relationships regardless of the depth of such relationships. To think otherwise is idiocy.

By: AngieRS

AngieRS — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:06:51 +0000

And Alan Carr is kissed on the lips by Chris Moyles on telly this evening. Someone out to prove a point methinks…Mind you, Moyles did seem to be wiping his mouth afterwards.

By: RobN

RobN — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:13:26 +0000

Rose: “RobN, He’s not a mouthy know it all yank. He’s a mouthy know it all Scotsman.”

He might have born there, but he is a fully paid-up member of the Western Atlantic Idiots club. (ie: USA), so don’t split hairs.

As for watching “Children in Need”, I didn’t bother, I just donated some English language books and a cane for the teacher.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:37:40 +0000

Mark Gatiss from The League of Gentleman represents the ‘non-camp’ Tatchell-approved side of the coin, he just needs to look a bit closer. Camp/Not camp, who cares as long as they’re being themselves, Graham Norton sold his soul to the BBC and he’s not funny anymore but I think Carr is an absolute genius. Eddie Izzard, Russell Brand & David Walliams aren’t your stereotypical straight males so there – can we just call it quits!?
As for the lesbians – Rhona Cameron, Sue Perkins and…. well… but I agree they’re extremely under-represented. I think Ellen & Rosie, Wanda Sykes and the yet-to-be-out Queen Latifah are doing a great job in America..
Let’s face it though, TV is utter crap these days on so many levels, this is the least of our worries….

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:16:37 +0000

Rose,
You are on the button there dear. There are braggards in the work-place or in the social group. The fisherman always catches huge fish. Some even say their ‘watsit’ touches the ground (mind you, they’ve probably had their legs amputated) Do you know what they call a man with no legs?…Low Bum!

By: Rose

Rose — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:10:46 +0000

he and another guy had had s*x with three or four girls all at the same time

That’s the sort of bragging you hear on Monday morning in any factory, office or six form college from people who probably have trouble finding one partner. And how is that clever, anyway when STD’s are so easily spread through promiscuous behaviour?

And how does it relate to this issue? Even our daft meanderings about gay celebs in their socks was slightly on topic.

By: Eddy

Eddy — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:20:01 +0000

AdrianT, good point. Alongside carpenter Craig from Liverpool from the first series of Big Brother (the cheeky Liverpudlian who said live on TV that he and another guy had had s*x with three or four girls all at the same time), there needs to be other cheeky carpenters from Liverpool or some such place who are just as competent at their trade but who happen to express themselves in a manner which is butch-gay or effeminate-gay.

By: JohnK

JohnK — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:56:53 +0000

mmm – Midsummer Nights dream . . . what a dream

I agree, there is always time for a little bit of Shakespeare

By: Rose

Rose — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:06:52 +0000

Brian, you sweetie.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:53:58 +0000

Rose, a little ‘Midsummer Night’s Dream’ for thee!
My Queen in silence sad,
Trip we after night’s shade.
We the globe can compass soon,
Swifter than the wandering moon.

By: Rose

Rose — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:56:55 +0000

Haha. Good point, Brian. But I don’t think that’s going to happen. Besides, John Barrowman in shorts and socks… TV gave me that at least….

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:50 +0000

Through your TVs out the window and your problems are solved!

By: Rose

Rose — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:29:54 +0000

never mind comedy.where are the positive role models in serious drama?

By: Lucius

Lucius — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:29:25 +0000

Leave Alan alone!

Forget the queers, where are all the funny lesbians on TV? I think this is an even bigger problem.

By: Rose

Rose — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:44:25 +0000

Oh that’s ok. me and RobN have been agreeing on too much lately. we had to have a little clash over John!

RobN, He’s not a mouthy know it all yank. He’s a mouthy know it all Scotsman.

And, RobN, you protest too much. I just know you were watching Children in Need just this last hour to see John singing in his shirt and spotty shorts. Admit it, you just couldn’t resist!

By hte way, i just figured out Christopher Biggins. he’s on the One Show, isn’t he! No wonder people are sick of him. that programme is the pits.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:40:14 +0000

Phillip alias Synthia Bagwash,
To me the mirror of perfect friendship can never be dulled by any treachery, how ever mean, or disloyalty, however base. Inderviduals come and go like shadows. Like you dear sweet Phillip. Did you know sweet Phillip, Life goes faster than realisum but Romanticism is always in front of Life!

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:24:34 +0000

RobN,
You are a card sir! Your description of Dear Rose’s JB is priceless. You never fail to have me rolling in the isle!

By: Philip

Philip — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:19:25 +0000

Brian Burton dear! sweetie are you selling tickets have you got an audience Sweetie. No more from me cannot suffer trolls.