Comments on: Gay unions threaten ‘fabric of society’, bishops say

By: oatc

oatc — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:45:04 +0000

People here may be interested to sign a petition to the Prime Minister on the Downing Street site:

| We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to introduce
| Marriage Equality.
|
| http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Gay-Marriage/
|
| We ask the Prime Minister to bring in equality for all British
| citizens regardless of sexual orientation with regards to
| Marriage. This means extending the rights of same sex couples to
| become legally married as is legal in Canada, Belgium, 5 states
| of the USA, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Spain and South
| Africa. Civil Partnerships should also be open to heterosexual
| couples who do not necessarily want to get married.
|
| Equal but different is NOT equality. Love is Love.

Some homophobic and sexist idiot at No.10 has labeled the page “Gay marriage”

By: Will

Will — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:29:26 +0000

I stand corrected!

By: Yewtree

Yewtree — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:26:07 +0000

WTF? Bishops = Bigots.

By: Harry

Harry — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:47:56 +0000

Will: my reference was actually to those Christians (gay ones in particular) who have had so much Christianity thrust down their throats that it is unfair to expect them to throw it off (Irish catholics are an excellent example).

By: Will

Will — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:35:55 +0000

I’m wading on this one a little late, but I’d say the “fabric of society” is more undermined by the child abuse and abhorrent cover-ups by this church than stable and loving gay relationships! Did these bishops even bother to read the sickening reports that come out about his church like the Ryan report? They should be ashamed to even show their faces in public.

And Terry, I’m sure Brian didn’t mean to come across so parochial on his beliefs, I doubt he means to offend anyone, however I totally agree with Harry who is quite right to point out we gay people have been “badly intimidated by others in their lives that it would be unfair to expect them to defend themselves rationally”

By: Jean-Paul Bentham

Jean-Paul Bentham — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:15:26 +0000

Speaking of drivel, the pastoral letter (and that’s all it is, a letter) written by the American bishops states that:

“To promote and protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman is itself a matter of justice. In fact, it would be a grave injustice if the state ignored the unique and proper place of husbands and wives, the place of mothers and fathers and the rights of children, who deserve from society clear guidance as they grow to sexual maturity.”

How out of touch with reality can American bishops get? Do they have a doctorate in it or what?

Why don’t the American bishops bring their baloon down a few hundred feet and distribute justice to the millions of children who are the result of a broken marriage between one man and one woman.

And by distributing justice to neglected children, I don’t mean sucking on their joy sticks or raping them without lubricant.

It’s our responsibility to see to it that these sex abuse scandals are never, not ever, overshadowed by some ludicrous pastoral letter whose only purpose is to attempt to pontificate to a people who respect the Universal Declaration of Human Rights a wee bit more than the a place called Hell whose only purpose is allow hard-earned money to make its way to the coffers of the crumbling Vatican multi-national business.

How dare they speak of “the rights of children, who deserve from society clear guidance as they grow to sexual maturity.”

They’ve got more nerve than there are stars in the galaxy!! And all the sheep can say is bah-bah-bah, or else they’ll be called heretics. Gasp!!

By: Harry

Harry — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 23:10:10 +0000

You are entitled to your view John-Paul. At least you think. However, the mere fact that Brian appears to take comfort in the drivel he practises does not make either the beliefs right or help the millions of fellow gays that his religion has harmed.

I accept that there may be individuals who have been so badly intimidated by others in their lives that it would be unfair to expect them to defend themselves rationally. I have no reason to suppose that Brian is one of those, merely a Christian who throws out insults rather than attempts to argue.

By: Jean-Paul Bentham

Jean-Paul Bentham — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:48:16 +0000

In defense of my old buddy, Brian, I must say that he is evolving, as we all are, at his own pace.

It’s just possible that he has found a comfort in the fellowship of his religious community that he does not find among us.

I understand where you are coming from, Harry, and the situation is without a doubt highly confusing.

Bottom line is I think you and Brian are both honest, good-living human beings. Like a good friend of mine told me the other day, friendships need not be compromised because of divergent points of view.

Life will take care of hurting us over and over again,eh.

By: Terry

Terry — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:47:59 +0000

“There is no such place as hell in the after-life.”

This is the ultimate in pretentious stupidity. You said this like an afterlife is a given! Since when? Can you prove this afterlife? No. Can anyone? No. So what’s your proof? Oh, wait, you don’t have any, do you? No. But I’m sure we’ll get some 1920′s styles insult to tell us to shut up, as that is all you can do when faced with an logic.

“There is such a lack of Love on these threads!”

Really? And your stupid insults towards anyone who doesn’t believe in your religious nonsense is spreading the “love”??? Yeah, your a Christian all right Brian, you have the two classic traits that makes you a typical one:

– Hypocrisy
– A lower intelligence

Well done….

…..Moron.

By: harry

harry — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:14:29 +0000

Brian you clearly are not able to argue rationally. You say (with various attempts to spell it correctly: remember i before e except after c) that you have an unshakeable and implicit belief in Christ. That does not indicate that you have any rational basis for such a belief, just a blind acceptance of the infantile drivel in the gospels . And it puts you in the company of some pretty undesirable people – even the URC has, as I understand it, a “moratorium” on debate on the issue, in other words has too many bigots in it to adopt safely a gay affirming position. Try the novel concept of thinking for yourself – or maybe you are a self hating gay, a traitor to the gay community, like the gay catholics or the gay mormons?

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:29:07 +0000

There is no such place as hell in the after-life. (We tend to create that here on earth dears, don’t we?) Absloutely unforgivable, trying to confuse people with this subject-matter. one of the greatest figures in literature since the Greek days Keats remarked that he had as much pleasure conceiving the evil as he had in conceiving the good. I don’t intend standing remote from what I firmly belive and what is an unshakable bilief an implicit belief in Christ.

By: Harvey

Harvey — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:52:03 +0000

Although I have belief in God I don’t have a single faith. I guess I’m best decribed as an anthropologist as I kinda believe there’s good and bad in all religions. Don’t forget that what they say about gays they also say about other religions. If you belong to another other than your own apparently you’ll go to hell anyway or be stoned to death as not a true believer, weither your gay or straight, yet most if not all worship the same God. That’s why I have to question a lot of what a holy books says. They are just written by men (mostly) nothing to do with the words of God. I just don’t believe God would want you dead for believing in him but not belonging to the right faith. For that reason I can’t help but think faith is what you and you alone has to have and believe.

By: Jean-Paul Bentham

Jean-Paul Bentham — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:38 +0000

Laughter = best medicine!

So there’s a guy at a bar, staring blankly at his drink. He stays like that for hours.

Then, this big trouble-making truck driver steps next to him, takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down. The poor man cries. The truck driver says,

“Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I’ll buy you another drink. I just can’t stand to see a man cry.”

“No, it’s not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I go late to my office. My boss, outrageous, fires me. When I leave the building, to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home, and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away.”

“I go home, and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home, and come to this bar. And just when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison.”

Yuk, yuk!

By: Jean-Paul Bentham

Jean-Paul Bentham — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:03:37 +0000

Many of the teachings of Jesus(whether he was fictitious or not) make a lot of sense to me, although I have left the RCC to become an agnostic, I suppose. Who cares?

The fact remains, if we return to the subject at hand, that the pathological sexual teachings of the RCC, American bishops and all, have caused, and continue to cause, nothing but misery to countless millions of human beings who will one day refuse to give a penny to this outdated and crystalized religious business…I mean institution.

Then B16 and Rowan, and any other religious drag queen, will end up wearing what John the Baptist supposedly wore, and let’s have a look at today’s special on the menu, shall we.

But I ain’t bitter. Everyone has a right to express her/his point of view, innit. That is one thing PinkNews has taught me, finally.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:35:43 +0000

Keith dear,
There is such a lack of Love on these threads! He says this so I say that, pure hate I’d say!
Love is fed by the imagination, by which we become wiser than we know, better than we feel, nicer than we are; by which we can see life as a whole….only what is good can feed…Love. But anything can feed hate.

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:20:19 +0000

Keith,
Thank you for your sweet kind words dear, at present, as you see I have a moronic stalker dogging my footsteps, I bet his main-chance is stalking Children!

By: Brian Burton

Brian Burton — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:59:06 +0000

Terry, Get a life you moron! You are a ‘stalker’ you pratt-face.

By: Terry

Terry — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:32:25 +0000

Is that it Burton? Is that your response???? You expect us to think that your efforts to silence anyone with an opposing view of your witch doctor religion, is juts being “humorous exchanges”????

LOL! Pathetic. We’re just not as stupid as your are, Brian, to believe that load of baloney!

Is there anything as sad as the oxymoron of a “gay christian”? I’ll keep my self respect, thanks, Brian, you can keep your your cheap playground insults and your daft defence of that nazi-pope.

By: Keith

Keith — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:51:01 +0000

Burty!
Someone recently posted a comment that you “buy a dictionary”.

Don’t you dare, Brian..!
Ha.

You just, in the words of the song, which I am sure you will recall, “Stay as sweet as you are, don’t let a thing ever change you. Stay as sweet as you are, don’t let the world re-arrange you..!”

You are a hoot, Brian, and loveable wiv it…
Hahaha!
K

By: Keith

Keith — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:46:55 +0000

Just heard on the News at One Radio 4, that the Pope and Rowan Williams have met in Rome and have agreed to press for “..closer relations”
The mind races!
I hope they will be very happy together.
Wonder who’ll do what and if it’ll be platonic or tectonic.

Daft old pair of tuncs.
Keith.

Oh..!!!!

“Bus sized gobs…??!!”
Oh! Brian Burty!

I love THAT..!

Can I pinch it…or have you copyrighted it..?

Just luv it!
Hahaha.