Ah, yes. The paranoid delusions that is the “New World Order”. Again. When logical argument fails, go for the global conspiracy theories, that’ll make you sound sane, won’t it Stewart? As Iris quite rightly pointed out, you rarely use facts, and your understanding of what constitutes free speech with reference to this law is grossly uninformed and quite frankly stupid. Can’s see past your bias and your bigotry, eh, Steward? God forbid, people like you would be prevented from advocating the forceful suppression of the rights of others!

As for “not here because I have guilt or shame”, I find you protest that line too much to be anything but the truth.

Why is it, the more fundamentally perverse these so called christians get, the more they turn their backs on reality and wallow in these stupid conspiracy theories and extreme judgemental, like they are an authority? Religion fuels the damaged mind of the paranoid delusions perhaps? Steward is very similar to that other madman, Hank, that comes in here with almost identical modus operandi.

Ever get diagnosed with Schizophrenia, Stewart? You seem to be exhibiting a lot of the symptoms, and statistically you match the profile.

However, why is it that those who argue the freedom of speech stance ignore the “Massive Anarchism and Anomaly” here?

How can an unelected “House of Lords” ever represent or purport to represent freedom of speech.

I rest my case; a chamber which has a right to include a representative figure head from all the major religions does not represent the predominantly secular UK society.
Consequently, any proscribed amendment will automatically have a element which serves to protect, preserve and propagate religious sensibilities.

I find it a little odd that the massive anarchism and anomaly is some what ignored by some.

Does the archaic really have a place in 21st century UK.

You seem to want a law imposed for you because you didn;t get on with your parents. Can you not see how ridiculous that is, and would you have wanted to prosecuted your parents then? Send the cops round to take your parents away? You should go to the torture museum in Pnem Penn to see the results of that.

If you were abused and people were being violent against you, there has always been criminal recourse.

We need to stop being so hysterical and childish – wanting to bring in a law becasue “he over there doesn’t like me and I don’t like what he is thinking”. Grow up!

What constitute “calm non-threatening criticisms of homosexual conduct”? Examples should be welcomed, otherwise some police officers will be left wondering if they should act on or ignore reported complaints. Have you noticed that when Lord Waddington mentioned Ms Pauline Howe during his speech in the House of Lords, he conveniently forgot to mention that she described gay people as sodomites in her letter? I wonder what he would do if her letter to the council contained words such as niggers/pakis/yids/dirty jews etc. Would he paint her as a saint who’s being vilified by the system or suddenly jump to other side of the argument? What do you think?

And that is right. Imagine a law which forbade criticism of somebody for their ‘religious orientation’? Half of the contributors to this discussion board would be in jail!

Express your opinion, but don’t state as ‘facts’ things that aren’t. And don’t couch your language in offensive terms. Do you agree with that?

You say we’re all answerable to a higher power – maybe and maybe not. But that higher power isn’t you, so don’t set yourself up as a judge. The higher power that you talk about – the Christian God I presume in your case? – isn’t the one that other religions would say exists. What if you’re wrong…?

Your religous beliefs are a “Life style Choice”

If you choose to fashion your life in the style of hatred and bigotry then thats your choice.

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Again Stewart you fail to understand the issue.

The issue is about the following:

* Preventing people like you from sending out a message that LGBT people are second class citizens who should convert to heterosexuality.

* Preventing people like you from using religion as a weapon to incite homophobic hatred

* Preventing people like you from propagating homophobic attitudes which will inspire others to abuse, assault and murder LGBT people.

Your website maps you out clearly as a crackpot, but are you a

Exgay Fundamentalitist Christain crackpot

or just a

Fundamentalitist Christain crackpot

You still don’t understand.

vulpus_rex,

You’re right. Lord W’s amendment simply clarifies the law. It doesn’t add anything or subtract anything, it clarifies. You have to wonder why most of these comments are against it. I guess they want innocent people locked up for not breaking the law.

Dear Bob,

I’ve already said that skin colour is not a valid comparison to any sort of behaviour.

I am not here because I have guilt or shame, only because the consequences of unrepented of sin are worse than death itself. I’m self-employed, so while I’m spending time writing here and elsewhere on the subject, I am losing money. Quite a lot. I don’t do this out of hatred! If I hated you I’d be making money instead of taking time out to warn you of the Judgment to come for sin.

* Hijacking this thread again!
* Desparate to get your message across again!
* Persistant in your hatered of LGBT people again!

Are you an

Exgay Fundamentalitist Christain crackpot
or just a
Fundamentalitist Christain crackpot

“We all live our lives as we think right and your only concern should be with yourself.”

Not so. We are accountable to a Higher Power and to each other. Nobody benefits from the selfishness you have described.

“Why does your life have to be a fight?”

This life is a fight. A fight to come out on the side of good over evil. It is a fallen world where many bad things happen. Do you not think it’s a fight sometimes? Do you just give into temptation every time it rears its ugly head?

“Why do you think people are ‘out to get you’?”

People are out to get us all. Thousands of New Labour laws and extra taxation! Wait until the globalisation really begins. It’s a whole other subject.

“Why don’t you like rights for women or rights for LGBT people?”

I am in favour of real (sensible) rights for everyone and that includes my right to disagree with any other human being on earth, as I have said already, without fear of prosecution. Can’t you see how ridiculous things have become that we should even be discussing someone’s right to express their opinion?

I think you will find that you cannot !!!

“Redemption cannot come that way.”

But it can certainly make you feel that way, doesn’t it? That’s why you are here. You come here to try to make other people feel guilty for something you yourself are feeling guilty about. Your concept of sin and salvation is not of everybody’s concerns. If you cannot provide real reasons, not imaginary ones, on why homosexuality is wrong, you are not any different than a screaming child banging its own head against the wall because it wants something so dearly.