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	<title>Comments on: Trans woman murdered in Kentish Town, London</title>
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		<title>By: Trish  (the maid)</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82544</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish  (the maid)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so sorry to hear about her death, i call her a very dear friend. we spoke on the phone just one 3 weeks ago.. i cant belive this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so sorry to hear about her death, i call her a very dear friend. we spoke on the phone just one 3 weeks ago.. i cant belive this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: maddie</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82452</link>
		<dc:creator>maddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we are all going to the rememberence day . her life should be a inspiration to us all. a strong woman with a misson.. we will all miss her. she allways made me smile ... rest in peace 
the bbc is reporting this,,, 

A 21-year-old man has been charged with the murder Leo Fyle, of Catford, south-east London will appear at City of Westminster Magistrates&#039; Court on Monday.

Mr Fyle, who lives on Laleham Road, is unemployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are all going to the rememberence day . her life should be a inspiration to us all. a strong woman with a misson.. we will all miss her. she allways made me smile &#8230; rest in peace<br />
the bbc is reporting this,,, </p>
<p>A 21-year-old man has been charged with the murder Leo Fyle, of Catford, south-east London will appear at City of Westminster Magistrates&#8217; Court on Monday.</p>
<p>Mr Fyle, who lives on Laleham Road, is unemployed.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82424</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Destiny for quite a long time and in shock to hear what happened.
My sincere condolences to her family and friends.
Sincerely  Roberta</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Destiny for quite a long time and in shock to hear what happened.<br />
My sincere condolences to her family and friends.<br />
Sincerely  Roberta</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Senior</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82339</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Senior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good bye to my friend. You had terrible tragedy in your life and bore it well. I will always miss your kindness. You were thoughtful, reflective and hugely gracious.
To your family: Please know that Destinys&#039; friends loved her, and that we are with you in your grief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good bye to my friend. You had terrible tragedy in your life and bore it well. I will always miss your kindness. You were thoughtful, reflective and hugely gracious.<br />
To your family: Please know that Destinys&#8217; friends loved her, and that we are with you in your grief.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Church</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure why my email address was garbled. dailyturnout at googlemail dot com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure why my email address was garbled. dailyturnout at googlemail dot com</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Church</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82289</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Church</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear R*, cousin of Destiny, I extend to you and your family my sincerest condolences. We will remember her at the Glasgow Transgender Day of Remembrance next week. I believe the name of the other transwoman who you enquired about was Andrea Wadell. If I can assist in any way, please let me know. I can put you in contact with Trans Media Watch who have good connections with major news outlets. This will probably give you the best chance of fair representation in the press. Sincerely, Liz Church, dailyturnout@googlemail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear R*, cousin of Destiny, I extend to you and your family my sincerest condolences. We will remember her at the Glasgow Transgender Day of Remembrance next week. I believe the name of the other transwoman who you enquired about was Andrea Wadell. If I can assist in any way, please let me know. I can put you in contact with Trans Media Watch who have good connections with major news outlets. This will probably give you the best chance of fair representation in the press. Sincerely, Liz Church, <a href="mailto:dailyturnout@googlemail.com">dailyturnout@googlemail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: a drear old friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>a drear old friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if and wher ther is a funerall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if and wher ther is a funerall?</p>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-82194</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just spoken to the Police in charge of this investigation. There has been what they refer to as a &#039;significant development&#039; i.e. arrest. The Police are appealing for witnesses or for anyone who was in the area or knew Destiny to come forward. I would like to add that if you want to pass on any information in confidence or anonymously you can call us (Camden LGBT Forum) on 020 7470 8760 or speak to us at the Trans Remembrance Day event mentioned in other posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just spoken to the Police in charge of this investigation. There has been what they refer to as a &#8216;significant development&#8217; i.e. arrest. The Police are appealing for witnesses or for anyone who was in the area or knew Destiny to come forward. I would like to add that if you want to pass on any information in confidence or anonymously you can call us (Camden LGBT Forum) on 020 7470 8760 or speak to us at the Trans Remembrance Day event mentioned in other posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia Silver Shadow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonia Silver Shadow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP, beautiful.

Antonia Silver Shadow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP, beautiful.</p>
<p>Antonia Silver Shadow</p>
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		<title>By: sirenity</title>
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		<dc:creator>sirenity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R* my sympathies and respects to you and your family. Many of us are thinking of you at this time. I will make sure our local LGBT youth group knows and remembers your loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R* my sympathies and respects to you and your family. Many of us are thinking of you at this time. I will make sure our local LGBT youth group knows and remembers your loss.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love you, Christina, but you know that, don&#039;t you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love you, Christina, but you know that, don&#8217;t you.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear R* (comment 19),
May I offer my deepest sympathies to you, Destiny&#039;s family and friends.  We will remember her at the Trans Day of Remembrance event on Saturday 21 November at 52 Gower Street, London, from 2pm.  Family and friends will be welcome at this event to remember all of the trans people who have been murdered.

The trans woman most recently murdered before Destiny was Andrea Waddell.

With sympathy and best wishes,
Christina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear R* (comment 19),<br />
May I offer my deepest sympathies to you, Destiny&#8217;s family and friends.  We will remember her at the Trans Day of Remembrance event on Saturday 21 November at 52 Gower Street, London, from 2pm.  Family and friends will be welcome at this event to remember all of the trans people who have been murdered.</p>
<p>The trans woman most recently murdered before Destiny was Andrea Waddell.</p>
<p>With sympathy and best wishes,<br />
Christina</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit (14):

You said:

&quot;I&#039;d rather be dead than a trans person in prison.
@Jean-Paul Bentham&quot;

Go ahead and put obstacles in your way, as if you can read the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit (14):</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d rather be dead than a trans person in prison.<br />
@Jean-Paul Bentham&#8221;</p>
<p>Go ahead and put obstacles in your way, as if you can read the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81684</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed 100%. You British are civilized where you should be brutal; and brutal where you should be civilized, e.g. Equality Bill.

And the coppers don&#039;t give a fig, either way! 

Otherwise a murderous bastard (male or female) wouldn&#039;t be reading these comments with a smirk on his/her face, and free as a bird to kill a Trans again.

I happen to love Trans; they are decent human beings who have been through more misery than we can even suspect, and they deserve our respect, and certainly our protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed 100%. You British are civilized where you should be brutal; and brutal where you should be civilized, e.g. Equality Bill.</p>
<p>And the coppers don&#8217;t give a fig, either way! </p>
<p>Otherwise a murderous bastard (male or female) wouldn&#8217;t be reading these comments with a smirk on his/her face, and free as a bird to kill a Trans again.</p>
<p>I happen to love Trans; they are decent human beings who have been through more misery than we can even suspect, and they deserve our respect, and certainly our protection.</p>
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		<title>By: Eagle the militant American Indian-Jew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eagle the militant American Indian-Jew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gays, transsexuals and lesbians the world over need to carry pepper-spray with them as its cheap (under five bucks online)and handy. Then when a bunch of no good varmints and gutter trash attack, take out your spray and hit em dead on and get away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gays, transsexuals and lesbians the world over need to carry pepper-spray with them as its cheap (under five bucks online)and handy. Then when a bunch of no good varmints and gutter trash attack, take out your spray and hit em dead on and get away.</p>
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		<title>By: R*</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81641</link>
		<dc:creator>R*</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone for your sympathy comments, I am destiny&#039;s cousin and our family is going through a very hard time. please we would appreciate if everybody could spread the news across the internet as it has only appeared in small columns and briefly on the internet we are pushing for it to be on a big news channel with interviews. if anyone has any information please let somebody know or ring anonymously to crime stoppers...we want to find the bastard who done this! a man was arrested but released on bail. If somebody could also tell me the name of the other trans gender woman murdered that would be helpful. thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone for your sympathy comments, I am destiny&#8217;s cousin and our family is going through a very hard time. please we would appreciate if everybody could spread the news across the internet as it has only appeared in small columns and briefly on the internet we are pushing for it to be on a big news channel with interviews. if anyone has any information please let somebody know or ring anonymously to crime stoppers&#8230;we want to find the bastard who done this! a man was arrested but released on bail. If somebody could also tell me the name of the other trans gender woman murdered that would be helpful. thank you</p>
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		<title>By: alina</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81633</link>
		<dc:creator>alina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jessica Green: To see a large, horribly large, list of trans-folk who have been murdered just for being trans, go to http://TransgenderDOR.org/ .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jessica Green: To see a large, horribly large, list of trans-folk who have been murdered just for being trans, go to <a href="http://TransgenderDOR.org/" rel="nofollow">http://TransgenderDOR.org/</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: OrtharRrith</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81626</link>
		<dc:creator>OrtharRrith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t use the term &quot;tranny&quot;. It&#039;s used by bigotted newspapers and transphobic members of the public to shock and offend people. It is, as far as I am concerned, the same as calling a gay man a &quot;fag&quot; or a black man a &quot;nigger&quot;.
That said you are correct, carrying a concealled weapon is not a good idea. I travel the country and whilst I am always aware of the danger I don&#039;t carry a weapon - pepper spray or anything (although I did study martial arts a few years back). I have my phone where I can get it and I judge each situation and decide if it&#039;s safe enough before entering it. I certainly don&#039;t hide away from it though - I&#039;m prepaired to do what ever I have to in order to survive should things go badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t use the term &#8220;tranny&#8221;. It&#8217;s used by bigotted newspapers and transphobic members of the public to shock and offend people. It is, as far as I am concerned, the same as calling a gay man a &#8220;fag&#8221; or a black man a &#8220;nigger&#8221;.<br />
That said you are correct, carrying a concealled weapon is not a good idea. I travel the country and whilst I am always aware of the danger I don&#8217;t carry a weapon &#8211; pepper spray or anything (although I did study martial arts a few years back). I have my phone where I can get it and I judge each situation and decide if it&#8217;s safe enough before entering it. I certainly don&#8217;t hide away from it though &#8211; I&#8217;m prepaired to do what ever I have to in order to survive should things go badly.</p>
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		<title>By: theotherone</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81609</link>
		<dc:creator>theotherone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JP: street smarts allow you to use anything you may be carrying or have in your bag as a weapon to ward off attackers. You don&#039;t need pepper spray and you most definitely DO NOT need to be a Trannie going through the legal system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP: street smarts allow you to use anything you may be carrying or have in your bag as a weapon to ward off attackers. You don&#8217;t need pepper spray and you most definitely DO NOT need to be a Trannie going through the legal system.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/09/trans-woman-murdered-in-kentish-town-london/#comment-81573</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit:

If you are living in a country that would emprison you for carrying a tube of pepper spray, you need to do one of two things:

1) change the law
2) emigrate

The police are using scare tactics on you; and who would prove that you used pepper spray? Do you think that those who attacked you would go crying to the police if you sprayed them? By the time they could open their eyes, you would be long gone, honey, and more importantly, safe and alive. 

Either way, it&#039;s risky business.

Ever hear the expression &quot;street smarts&quot;?

I&#039;m advocating self-defensive, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit:</p>
<p>If you are living in a country that would emprison you for carrying a tube of pepper spray, you need to do one of two things:</p>
<p>1) change the law<br />
2) emigrate</p>
<p>The police are using scare tactics on you; and who would prove that you used pepper spray? Do you think that those who attacked you would go crying to the police if you sprayed them? By the time they could open their eyes, you would be long gone, honey, and more importantly, safe and alive. </p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s risky business.</p>
<p>Ever hear the expression &#8220;street smarts&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m advocating self-defensive, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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