Comments on: Echoes of Prop 8 as Maine voters repeal gay marriage

By: Vo Dong Cung

Vo Dong Cung — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:07:08 +0000

I still unable to find some where to put the comment. Some friend show me…

By: 21stCenturySpirituality

21stCenturySpirituality — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:59:35 +0000

Ah ha. I think you need to be logged into facebook first and then click on the link

By: 21stCenturySpirituality

21stCenturySpirituality — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:56:08 +0000

Try this link

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/note.php?note_id=166623542513&comments

By: Vo Dong Cung

Vo Dong Cung — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:36:20 +0000

Thank 21stCenturySpirituality, I registered to facebook but I can’t find some where to make comment.

By: 21stCenturySpirituality

21stCenturySpirituality — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:30:59 +0000

This story is also being discussed on the Christian Institutes facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/notes/the-christian-institute/maine-voters-latest-to-turn-down-same-sex-marriage/166623542513

By: Vo Dong Cung

Vo Dong Cung — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:10:09 +0000

“Religion hates homosexuals” (Breton #64)

Religion do not hates homosexual, all we see they covered up their members for too long. But they are afraid of LGBT, afraid of showing their wrong doctrime in front of the world. So they try with all their effort, with all their devil thought to win. And they won. They won in turning public opinion away from their child sex raping to gay marriage. We see now, the media flooded with gay marriage news but not any of Catholic priest child abuse. And Vatican acepting CoE too. They try to make media busy on other topics.

Why all gay web sites world wide do not have a place to remind the world, day after day, minute after minute, the Roman Catholic crimes as the web http://www.vaticancrimes.us did.

I am going to follow this web to remind our people stay away from Roman Catholic. Because, if not start right now, the other California, the other Maine will appear inside my country.

By: Vo Dong Cung

Vo Dong Cung — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:29:42 +0000

VIVA MAINE! Good news! (Alesha #7)

To people around the world,
From now on, any time US Goverment talking about democracy and freedom of religion, please show them the democracy and religion raping the constitution in California and Maine. This is the time to shut US Goverment mouth off.

By: Will

Will — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:51:05 +0000

Well, what a surprise, the fascist and dull witted RobN jumps in to support vulpus_rex. And followed by another playground insult from our enlightened one, made all the more intelligent by that “lol”. Beautiful.

Who didn’t see that coming.

By: vulpus_rex

vulpus_rex — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:51:46 +0000

Lol – thanks but don’t worry RobN – d*ckheads like Will don’t worry me – he’s such a tool.

By: RobN

RobN — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:42:24 +0000

Vulpus: Don’t worry, Will thinks he’s running the show, and that we are all morons. Bit like this government, really.

By: Tigra 07

Tigra 07 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:31:08 +0000

Alesha you dumb bitch, are you a closet case or do you always read the gay news?
We will have the last laugh, frankly i don’t want to get married but i want the right and eventually we all will

How can you win in a world where religion is declining faster than the popes intelligence?

By: Will

Will — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:08:30 +0000

“New York state where I currently reside being one of them and where marriage equality has been passed by the state assembly on two occasions, now awaiting an up and down vote to make it the law of the state, maybe as soon as November 10, hopefully.”

Robert, does this mean marriage will be legal for gay/lesbian people in NY State soon?

By: Robert, ex pat Brit

Robert, ex pat Brit — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:51:40 +0000

PlainJane…you don’t see the larger picture or able to think outside the box on this one. Civil partnerships, civil unions, domestic partnerships, whatever form of other union outside marriage will NEVER be universal. Just because society often regards your partnership as a marriage, in reality its not. There is no law written otherwise to reflect that. If they were equal to marriage, why call them something different?

Why do you think more countries are abandoning these unions in favour of marriage? Don’t forget, straight governments legislated for it, not gays. Marriage will always far outnumber civil partnerships and their other equivalents, why would you want to settle for something that is on the decline? Do you really think that civil partnerships as good as they currently are in conferring most of the rights (not all) of marriage, in the absence of nothing at all, are going to be the norm across Europe? Its delusional to even think so and so very insular. We now have five countries in Europe allowing us to marry, a trend that will grow, albeit slowly. Marriage will be inevitable, mark my words, whether you like it or not. Just because two states in America have had legislation overturned, don’t think for a moment its the end, its just the beginning of the tide turning in our favor. For every loss there will be gains. Not every state in America has initiative/referenda ballots to take away peoples’ rights. There are more than 20 that don’t, New York state where I currently reside being one of them and where marriage equality has been passed by the state assembly on two occasions, now awaiting an up and down vote to make it the law of the state, maybe as soon as November 10, hopefully. We’re not giving up. Out of every defeat we will triumph in the end.

By: Will

Will — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:07:56 +0000

Yawn. Oh, boo f-king hoo, you’re such a victim now, are you? The sweet little darling who never says anything bad, that’s you alright! Please. Anyway, its not bullying if its true, is it? You are a moron. And a hypocrite. And I’m not the only one who thinks that. Load of people do. Ergo, you are a moron.

And you need a mirror if you want to see an offensive and disrespectful person.

Well done on the high drama though.

By: vulpus_rex

vulpus_rex — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:52:28 +0000

“I just think you’re a utter moron.”

More bullying – it’s almost hilarious that the most abusive, disrespectful, hate filled person who comments in here can’t see what a foul mouthed bully he is. To be fair though, I think you’re an utter moron too so I guess that makes us equal.

By: Will

Will — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:08:13 +0000

“Can I reserve a special thanks though to Will who thinks he is the moderator”

Oh, god no. But you’re welcome. I just think you’re a utter moron. That’s all, nothing special really. Most of us do. I’m sure you find it common enough in your day to day life.

By: vulpus_rex

vulpus_rex — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:35:47 +0000

My, My I see the usual suspects have spent their evening pouring out invective.

I am particularly pleased to see that as well as a stalker (Nev) I now how have an impersonator.

Can I reserve a special thanks though to Will who thinks he is the moderator and it is by his standards of juvenile “What are you crapping on about….” style of contribution that you must be judged.

@55 very special – too thick to see that you were commenting on a thrid party parody, and I love the bullying!

By: Iris

Iris — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:01:39 +0000

Quite right, Chris(tine). Ignorance isn’t necessarily malice. But sometimes it’s hard to educate those who won’t open their minds. For some people (SOME) religion makes them close their minds.

Also, the reason the ‘act’ as you phrase it is in people’s minds is partly because that’s what religion focusses on. It has to. The idea that people can LOVE people of the same sex is one that the religious leaders that are bigots (and I accept not all of them are) like to keep quiet. Love binds us together, but the bigots rely on our ‘difference’ to ostracise us and discriminate against us.

I’d like to see every single person who voted against gay marriage to explain exactly WHY and in detail. They won’t because there’s no logical argument against it.

By: Chris(tine)

Chris(tine) — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 08:42:56 +0000

First, I think this was a very sad vote, second, I am sorry for my English, I don’t have this English Grammar here you need to describe correctly what you want to express, but I try to write my thoughts down here:
As a young gay man’s mother I had to realize and learn about the problems with missing equality (here in Germany and all over the world). I lived in a “heterosexual world” before that and did not notice the problems, although I had gay and lesbian friends and co-workers. I knew and accepted their loved ones as their lifetime partners as I knew and accepted the heterosexual partners of all my other friends. But we never talked about gay marriage. So it never came into my own mind. Realizing one of my sons was gay I suddenly opened my eyes for all these problems you boys and girls have to fight with. I am very sorry but I really didn’t realize the inequality before. Now I feel it.
I think that one big problem is that talking about sexuality and sexual acts is still a big taboo. And if (silly) people hear about “gay” marriage they don’t realize that this an item of equal rights, but only see the homosexual act in their mind. Seeing this “act” in mind is very strange for them (as a heterosexual man or woman you are not very often confronted with these thoughts). And so they say: No, this cannot be right, because I don’ t know it. Very simple And many Churches and religions also say: “No, no, Dear God (seems to be a heterosexual and he) can’t appreciate gay sex, neither gay marriage.” And then the heterosexual world system is cemented.
So the fight for equality must be combined with information and education. And you must be aware that many persons live with (perhaps unconscious) taboos in their heads, that don’t allow them to see the real injustice and inequality. Realizing your struggle for justice and equality seems to be a mind problem for those who are not involved. This may sound naive but, I think you have to explain your problems clearly to all the narrow minded who only see the homosexual act and not the problems of injustice and inequality. Then they should understand.
Fight for your rights!

By: Aussie Gay Activist Paul Mitchell

Aussie Gay Activist Paul Mitchell — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:44:13 +0000

CORRECTION:
[After I am glad that the sexual orientation and gender idenity Ordinance was voted] – add; “APPROVED”