You know, I have a bit of an interest in sci fi. I wonder how Vulpus would feel about a marriage between a human and an alien? I mean, just think about it. The same prejudice against black and white people marrying, against same sex people marrying, would then be rehashed to tell us it’s a union between two HUMANS.

“Don’t agree with me or play by the rules I make up and I’m going to call you names, spread smear and sulk!”

Grow up baby – or better still, try and answer my question though do have the brains or guts to?

Vulpus Rex is a gay Tory.

If he is representive of the LGBTory Group then our hardwon rights will be whittled away under a Tory government.

Remember LGBT people – the Tories have allied themselves with extreme-rights Polish fascists in the European Parliament (The Law and Justice Party) and senior Tories – Philippa Stroud and Iain Duncan Smith are members of the Centre for Social Justice – the organisation which is campaigning to reduce the parental rights of non-biological gay parents.

Any LGBT person who votes Tory is voting to have their rights reduced.

If a gay couple put a tea bag in their hot water are they drinking coffee?

A one word answer will do, and then to be fair I think you’ll have answered your own question.

Do you support denying access to the legal contract of civil marriage to those gay couples who wish to avail of it?

Please answer either yes or no.

If I take a cup of water and add some coffee, then I have a cup of coffee.

All the wishful thinking, semantic debate about definition or whether something qualifies as an opinion or not will not make a jot of difference to whether I have a cup of tea or coffee.

Marriage is the term used to describe the union of a man and a woman just as a cup of tea is used to describe the delightful combination of boiling H2O and Camellia Sinensis.

The above fact does not say anything about any other type of relationship, the rights of access thereto, and is certainly not to be traduced into a “If you say this, then you must also mean this” bit of whataboutery.

You do accept I hope that this is merely an opinion? Just like saying that miscegenation of the races is a bad thing?

It is not an opinion shared by everyone. Therefore the law should not be written to protect 1 version of what a marriage should be.

“I do not contend that a same sex union is in any way less valid or relevant, it’s just not a marriage and I see no point in lending it the false legitimacy conferred by such a misnoma.”

Do you therefore support denying access to civil marriage to those gay couples who disagree with your OPINION that a marriage is between a man and a woman?

Personally I have no interest in marriage. A civil partnership would suit me better. But I wouldn’t dream of restricting someone else from accessing the contract of marriage if they wished. Likewise I think it is entirely unfair to ONLY offer marriage to straight people. They should be allowed have CP’s if they wish as well.

If you are opposed to law-abiding, tax-paying couples being denied equal access to the legal CONTRACT of civil marriage if they want to, then you are a bigot. If you don’t want to marry a man, well don’t. No-one is forcing you. But it is entirely wrong to pervert the secular law of the land to deny other people access to that legal contract based on their sexual orientation or race.

That is perfectly fine. It is your opinion.

But for those gay people who want to be legally married. Or for those straight people who are opposed to marriage but want a Civil Partnership; the law should facilitate them.

If someone is opposed to gay marriage then no-one should force them to marry someone of the same sex. But for those who wish to avail of it then they absolutely should have the option to do so.

Chris Bryant is happy with Civil Partnership. Good for him. But it is entirely inappropriate for him not to support marriage equality for those who want it.

I do not contend that a same sex union is in any way less valid or relevant, it’s just not a marriage and I see no point in lending it the false legitimacy conferred by such a misnoma.

The assertion that gender is not a binary system, whilst unproven, subjective and inaccurate anyway, does not help as the the union of two polgendered people (even if one accepted the existence of such) would still not be a marriage.

If men and women are sodium and chlorine (or is it the other way round?), what are polygender or androgyne people? Gender is not a simple binary system.

Men and women (including trans men and trans women), and people of other gender identities, are all human beings. Marriage should be available to adult human couples, and so should civil partnership.

Nothing else in any other combination will give you salt and that’s how I think of marriage.

To me it is wishful thinking to try and describe the union, state sanctioned or otherwise, of two men as a marriage.

Although I don’t want to participate in heterosexual partnership conventions or see them hijacked by the gay community, it doesn’t mean that I don’t think something equally powerful and respected shouldn’t be available!

I think it should be publicised, as being the first same-sex couple to marry in the Houses of Parliament is pretty historic.

I think both marriage and civil partnerships should be available to both same-sex and heterosexual couples.

Some reactionary groups don’t want to hold same-sex weddings – why on earth should they be allowed to hold back the group that does want to celebrate same-sex unions in its churches and chapels, i.e. the Unitarians?

Pagans have been conducting same-sex weddings for years, but as Pagan weddings don’t have legal standing anyway (except in Scotland) there is nothing to stop it happening.

I’m not sure what France’s position is about CP/civil marriage?

Vulpus, you just confused matters. Why should marriage only mean a union of a man and a woman? That is just the traditional view of the definition of marriage. Tradition has to evolve. Marriage should mean a union of two people, and that is all. The sum of the two parts is still greater even if it’s two men or two women.