Comments on: Six more boys arrested for attack on gay trainee policeman http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/ News, reviews and comment from Europe's largest gay news service Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:41:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian NYC http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-99235 Brian NYC Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:39:29 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-99235 Christians. This is what Christians do. When will we get over they silly mythology of Christianity. Education beats religion - hurry, people are getting beat up, some killed. Christians. This is what Christians do. When will we get over they silly mythology of Christianity. Education beats religion – hurry, people are getting beat up, some killed.

]]> By: David in Indy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-92397 David in Indy Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:53:47 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-92397 Typo.... I meant "Mississippi" Typo…. I meant “Mississippi”

]]> By: David in Indy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-92396 David in Indy Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:52:41 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-92396 Is Liverpool homophobic? I hope I am not offending anyone with this question, but from what I have been reading I get the impression it is. A bit like Jackson, Mississipi or Montgomery, Alabama over here in my country. This crime is shocking. My heart goes out to James Parkes and his family, friends and loved ones. Is Liverpool homophobic? I hope I am not offending anyone with this question, but from what I have been reading I get the impression it is. A bit like Jackson, Mississipi or Montgomery, Alabama over here in my country.

This crime is shocking. My heart goes out to James Parkes and his family, friends and loved ones.

]]> By: Eagle the militant American Indian-Jew http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-80371 Eagle the militant American Indian-Jew Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:41:25 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-80371 Beating up a cop is really a bad thing and in the US were that to happen everyone of those under-age brats would be tried as adults and sent away for years where adults prisoners would use these under-age boys as their girl friends, thus giving them a taste of their own bullsh-t. The best thing that should happen to them is to turn them loose one at a time to have the most macho gay cowboys and bull dykes beat the holy sh-t out of them before turning them into the law to get convicted and sent up the river for a few years. When it takes 20 against one that proves what cowards they truly are. Beating up a cop is really a bad thing and in the US were that to happen everyone of those under-age brats would be tried as adults and sent away for years where adults prisoners would use these under-age boys as their girl friends, thus giving them a taste of their own bullsh-t. The best thing that should happen to them is to turn them loose one at a time to have the most macho gay cowboys and bull dykes beat the holy sh-t out of them before turning them into the law to get convicted and sent up the river for a few years. When it takes 20 against one that proves what cowards they truly are.

]]> By: Zoe http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-80252 Zoe Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:13:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-80252 As a student in an American school, I wouldn't doubt homophobia is bad in British schools either. It sure ain't a piece of cake here, with verbal abuse being the tops and physical following outside of school hours commonly. I hope him a fast recovery and that justice is brought. As a student in an American school, I wouldn’t doubt homophobia is bad in British schools either. It sure ain’t a piece of cake here, with verbal abuse being the tops and physical following outside of school hours commonly.

I hope him a fast recovery and that justice is brought.

]]> By: capelli http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79870 capelli Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:01:11 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79870 julian - it's all of them. white, black, asian, whatever. i'm sure you'd love this to be a racial issue but it just isn't. julian – it’s all of them. white, black, asian, whatever. i’m sure you’d love this to be a racial issue but it just isn’t.

]]> By: dave http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79853 dave Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:59:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79853 Up till a few years ago there was a gay teacher on a kids' drama called Grange Hill. Things have changed a lot recently, and now the BBC avoids such issues on children's programmes. I think kids are getting a message that 'gay' is bad thing to be. Up till a few years ago there was a gay teacher on a kids’ drama called Grange Hill. Things have changed a lot recently, and now the BBC avoids such issues on children’s programmes. I think kids are getting a message that ‘gay’ is bad thing to be.

]]> By: Dr Clive Wheeler http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79836 Dr Clive Wheeler Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:00:45 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79836 re homophobia in state schools. I've been a teacher in secondary schools for 36 years and can confirm that homosphobia is the norm though the bulleying against gay kids today is more verbal than the physical actions that used to be common in the past. But gay kids who come out - or more likely are outed by their peers - do suffer tremendously from taunts and threats and their education and mental well being is greatly affected. Some schools resort to isolating those who are being bullied in this way by placing them within inclusion units which do little to boost their self esteem or counter the homophobia. Some PSHCE curricula do now include aspects of gay relationships but I have found few teachers are prepared to deal with this as fully as they do with other types of relationships. There are many gay teachers in the school system but very few are out to their colleagues, let alone their students. As a very openly out gay man my own experiences of acute homophobia from other teachers at all levels of management indicates that most schools cannot cope with the actuality of a teacher being openly gay. I think this is so sad since teachers like myself would have a great potential for both helping gay students and combating prejudice against them. My heart goes out to James and his family and friends and I do hope the police will bring every one of his attackers to justice and that they will all receive a morally appropriate punishment. Clive re homophobia in state schools.
I’ve been a teacher in secondary schools for 36 years and can confirm that homosphobia is the norm though the bulleying against gay kids today is more verbal than the physical actions that used to be common in the past. But gay kids who come out – or more likely are outed by their peers – do suffer tremendously from taunts and threats and their education and mental well being is greatly affected. Some schools resort to isolating those who are being bullied in this way by placing them within inclusion units which do little to boost their self esteem or counter the homophobia. Some PSHCE curricula do now include aspects of gay relationships but I have found few teachers are prepared to deal with this as fully as they do with other types of relationships. There are many gay teachers in the school system but very few are out to their colleagues, let alone their students. As a very openly out gay man my own experiences of acute homophobia from other teachers at all levels of management indicates that most schools cannot cope with the actuality of a teacher being openly gay. I think this is so sad since teachers like myself would have a great potential for both helping gay students and combating prejudice against them.
My heart goes out to James and his family and friends and I do hope the police will bring every one of his attackers to justice and that they will all receive a morally appropriate punishment.
Clive

]]> By: Julian http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79833 Julian Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:44:58 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79833 It would be interesting to see what "type" of children - from what ethnic backgrounds - are the most homophobic in your relative's school, Capelli. However, no doubt the powers that be would never record such details, and as for the Guardian - Heaven forfend! It would be interesting to see what “type” of children – from what ethnic backgrounds – are the most homophobic in your relative’s school, Capelli.
However, no doubt the powers that be would never record such details, and as for the Guardian – Heaven forfend!

]]> By: wondersoup http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79710 wondersoup Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:24:10 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79710 As a state school leaver in 2002, being taught through much of the section 28 years... I remember it being one of the nastiest, hardest homophobic environments Ive ever been in. I recall two people coming out in our year and getting completely battered.. the family requesting an assembly on the matter but being denied cause of good ol' 28. I was incredibly in denial about my own feelings and myself built up alot of hatred towards gay people because of this environment. From what I hear from my youngest brother who attends the same school, not much has changed. Other than when they bring up gay people in sex education the kids all grimace and make aids jokes. So RobN, as someone who I assume is quite a bit older.. I don't think you really can make a judgement on this. As a state school leaver in 2002, being taught through much of the section 28 years… I remember it being one of the nastiest, hardest homophobic environments Ive ever been in. I recall two people coming out in our year and getting completely battered.. the family requesting an assembly on the matter but being denied cause of good ol’ 28. I was incredibly in denial about my own feelings and myself built up alot of hatred towards gay people because of this environment.

From what I hear from my youngest brother who attends the same school, not much has changed. Other than when they bring up gay people in sex education the kids all grimace and make aids jokes.

So RobN, as someone who I assume is quite a bit older.. I don’t think you really can make a judgement on this.

]]> By: capelli http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79704 capelli Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:50:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79704 RobN - funny you should say that ("Twats like you just stir up fear and ill-feeling."). Having seen many of your other comments around this place I've reached a similar conclusion about your good self. This is certainly an extreme case, but the fact that it doesn't always get this far does not mean the kind of attitudes that lead to such a horrific attack aren't a problem. check these links for a few stats on the matter: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/jan/20/homophobia-schools-british-beadle-phil http://www.eachaction.org.uk/content/information http://www.lgbt-ep.eu/print.php?news.51 http://mindthegapuk.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/homophobic-bullying-%E2%80%98almost-epidemic%E2%80%99-in-british-schools/ http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/campaigns-politics/gay-bashing-second-most-common-form-of-bullying-in-school/ (i have a teacher in the family who confirms all of this, by the way.) now how about you come up with some proof that homophobia is <i>not</i> endemic in british schools? RobN – funny you should say that (“Twats like you just stir up fear and ill-feeling.”). Having seen many of your other comments around this place I’ve reached a similar conclusion about your good self.

This is certainly an extreme case, but the fact that it doesn’t always get this far does not mean the kind of attitudes that lead to such a horrific attack aren’t a problem.

check these links for a few stats on the matter:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/jan/20/homophobia-schools-british-beadle-phil
http://www.eachaction.org.uk/content/information
http://www.lgbt-ep.eu/print.php?news.51
http://mindthegapuk.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/homophobic-bullying-%E2%80%98almost-epidemic%E2%80%99-in-british-schools/
http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/campaigns-politics/gay-bashing-second-most-common-form-of-bullying-in-school/
(i have a teacher in the family who confirms all of this, by the way.)

now how about you come up with some proof that homophobia is not endemic in british schools?

]]> By: john sharp http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79703 john sharp Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:48:50 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79703 20 or so to beat up a guy take 20 real men to beat a gay guy congratulations on their cowardness get them to court and make them feel the full extent of the law to all of them beating and the ones who did not assit 20 or so to beat up a guy
take 20 real men to beat a gay guy
congratulations on their cowardness
get them to court and make them feel the full extent of the law to all of them beating and the ones who did not assit

]]> By: RobN http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79697 RobN Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:13:55 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79697 Capelli: ,i>"Extreme homophobia is pretty much the norm in british schools"</i> <b>*CITATION REQUIRED*</i> Don't talk ROT. If that were the case this sort of thing would be going on daily. There are outbreaks here and there. This is one extreme example, but fortunately it is rare. Twats like you just stir up fear and ill-feeling. Capelli: ,i>”Extreme homophobia is pretty much the norm in british schools”
*CITATION REQUIRED*

Don’t talk ROT. If that were the case this sort of thing would be going on daily. There are outbreaks here and there. This is one extreme example, but fortunately it is rare.

Twats like you just stir up fear and ill-feeling.

]]> By: capelli http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79694 capelli Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:07:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79694 robert - learned behaviour almost certainly, but it's quite possible his parents had nothing to do with it. they probably picked it up from their peers - extreme homophobia is pretty much the norm in british schools, and yet it seems like no one is willing to tackle it. robert – learned behaviour almost certainly, but it’s quite possible his parents had nothing to do with it. they probably picked it up from their peers – extreme homophobia is pretty much the norm in british schools, and yet it seems like no one is willing to tackle it.

]]> By: Robert, ex pat Brit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79689 Robert, ex pat Brit Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:51:46 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79689 Speedy recovery, James. I hope the courts throw the book at these thugs. Its clear their parents did a lousy job raising them, teaching them to hate a specific group of people. This is all learned behaviour, no question about it. They too should take some responsibility for this heinous crime. Speedy recovery, James. I hope the courts throw the book at these thugs. Its clear their parents did a lousy job raising them, teaching them to hate a specific group of people. This is all learned behaviour, no question about it. They too should take some responsibility for this heinous crime.

]]> By: Matt B http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79682 Matt B Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:47:14 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/28/six-more-boys-arrested-for-attack-on-gay-trainee-policeman/#comment-79682 Hope James recovers, my heart goes out to his partner and family. Hope James recovers, my heart goes out to his partner and family.

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