Comments on: Feature: The divas who helped gays out of the closet http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/ News, reviews and comment from Europe's largest gay news service Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:30:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Annie http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-150831 Annie Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:37:52 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-150831 Gertrude Stein, Katherine Hepburn a multitude of others Gertrude Stein, Katherine Hepburn a multitude of others

]]> By: Paddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-80047 Paddy Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:33:21 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-80047 Well, Brian, if you're saying that gay men towards these exaggerations of femininity because the real women in their lives are so drab then it means a lot of gay men must have one hell of an aversion to their sisters, mothers, aunts, and so on. Hmmm. It's been long said that most gay men had over-bearing mothers in their lives. Should we alter that to over-bearing and dull dull dull???????? :-) Are gay men really all just screaming "Gimme me a mama who behaves like a REAL WOMAN!" LOL Well, Brian, if you’re saying that gay men towards these exaggerations of femininity because the real women in their lives are so drab then it means a lot of gay men must have one hell of an aversion to their sisters, mothers, aunts, and so on. Hmmm. It’s been long said that most gay men had over-bearing mothers in their lives. Should we alter that to over-bearing and dull dull dull???????? :-) Are gay men really all just screaming “Gimme me a mama who behaves like a REAL WOMAN!” LOL

]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79829 Brian Burton Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:18:30 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79829 Paddy....Yes! Paddy….Yes!

]]> By: Paddy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79808 Paddy Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:45:41 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79808 Why do a large number of gay men so often turn to these over-the-top exaggeratedly feminine women who bear little relation to real women in the real world? I just don't get it. There seems to be some extreme need for total femininity. Are the real women in their lives just SOOOOOOOO drab? Why do a large number of gay men so often turn to these over-the-top exaggeratedly feminine women who bear little relation to real women in the real world? I just don’t get it. There seems to be some extreme need for total femininity. Are the real women in their lives just SOOOOOOOO drab?

]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79784 Brian Burton Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:50:54 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79784 theotherone, I would say Dietrich was Bi-sexual at least that is what I gathered after she had sex with John F. Kennedy in his Whithouse Love-nest. Shs complained that after sex with Kennedy he immediatley fell asleep and by dawn's early light he was gone and Dietrich had to find her own way out of the Whitehouse 'back door.' theotherone,
I would say Dietrich was Bi-sexual at least that is what I gathered after she had sex with John F. Kennedy in his Whithouse Love-nest. Shs complained that after sex with Kennedy he immediatley fell asleep and by dawn’s early light he was gone and Dietrich had to find her own way out of the Whitehouse ‘back door.’

]]> By: theotherone http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79756 theotherone Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:30:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79756 erm...Dietrich was not some cypher for Gay Male Homosexuality she was a Lesbian. This article takes that from her but then Gay Men have always done that havn't they? erm…Dietrich was not some cypher for Gay Male Homosexuality she was a Lesbian.

This article takes that from her but then Gay Men have always done that havn’t they?

]]> By: JohnG http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79705 JohnG Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:57:57 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79705 Our Gracie made appearances in <i>Stars on Sunday</i> during the 70’s not <i>Songs of Praise</i>. Shirley Bassey, Cliff Richard, Howard Keel, John Gielgud, James Mason, Ralph Richardson, and Anna Neagle were amongst other big names in the programme which was then attracting some 15 million viewers. There was a real gay gem in Gracie’s 1935 film Look Up And Laugh. A gay male couple appear throughout and are characterised sympathetically albeit played for laughs. In one of the main musical numbers Gracie sings Love is everywhere as she says goodnight to various characters. As the song title indicates there are different kinds of love – young, old, a miser and his money, and as the two gay men turn out the light together she smiles affectionately. Although Gracie Fields was known for being very generous and warm to fans I have read that she got a little weary of the legions of gay men who fawned constantly at her restaurant complex on the Isle of Capri. Our Gracie made appearances in Stars on Sunday during the 70’s not Songs of Praise. Shirley Bassey, Cliff Richard, Howard Keel, John Gielgud, James Mason, Ralph Richardson, and Anna Neagle were amongst other big names in the programme which was then attracting some 15 million viewers.

There was a real gay gem in Gracie’s 1935 film Look Up And Laugh. A gay male couple appear throughout and are characterised sympathetically albeit played for laughs. In one of the main musical numbers Gracie sings Love is everywhere as she says goodnight to various characters. As the song title indicates there are different kinds of love – young, old, a miser and his money, and as the two gay men turn out the light together she smiles affectionately.

Although Gracie Fields was known for being very generous and warm to fans I have read that she got a little weary of the legions of gay men who fawned constantly at her restaurant complex on the Isle of Capri.

]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79666 Brian Burton Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:28:49 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79666 Hathacanute, (or whatever?) Yea, yea, yea! Hathacanute, (or whatever?) Yea, yea, yea!

]]> By: Harthacanute http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79654 Harthacanute Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:05:52 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79654 Jesus existed (probably) – but he had a schizoid personality disorder, lived in a K-hole, fantasised that he was the son of an imaginary God and has 2,000 years on the clock for keeping gays firmly in the closet. Diva to boot? Probably - he certainly had the frock for it and would have looked great in the transformation scene in La Cage. Jesus existed (probably) – but he had a schizoid personality disorder, lived in a K-hole, fantasised that he was the son of an imaginary God and has 2,000 years on the clock for keeping gays firmly in the closet. Diva to boot? Probably – he certainly had the frock for it and would have looked great in the transformation scene in La Cage.

]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79644 Brian Burton Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:19:04 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79644 Simon Murphy, I'm always pleased when you acknollage Jesus exists, you can never escape Jesus in your coversations because I know (as I think you know) you are on your 'Road To Damascus.' Deare Simon, you are more loved than you know! Simon Murphy,
I’m always pleased when you acknollage Jesus exists, you can never escape Jesus in your coversations because I know (as I think you know) you are on your ‘Road To Damascus.’ Deare Simon, you are more loved than you know!

]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79627 Simon Murphy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:01:21 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79627 Then again Marlene Dietrich is much more iconic than Jesus even though she actually existed (although she may not look as good naked on a cross perhaps.) Then again Marlene Dietrich is much more iconic than Jesus even though she actually existed (although she may not look as good naked on a cross perhaps.)

]]> By: Simon Murphy http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79626 Simon Murphy Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:59:48 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79626 The era of gay divas and icons seems to be over thankfully. They served a very useful purpose in their day but nowadays there seems less need of them. Current gay icons seem to be iconic merely for having cried once. And they are rather silly. The era of gay divas and icons seems to be over thankfully. They served a very useful purpose in their day but nowadays there seems less need of them.

Current gay icons seem to be iconic merely for having cried once. And they are rather silly.

]]> By: Brian Burton http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79556 Brian Burton Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:28:05 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79556 Mike, Carol Channing,and 'Dimonds Are A Girl's Best Friend.' She still is a Diva at 87 now. Before homosexual legality, Gays loved the sheer Camp of her entertainment. On Broadway or West-End Shows, Carol Channing was the Glitziest of them all. It was rumoured that Mae West, off Stage and out of the spotlight was quiet prudish. I heard this said on many occasions in the 1960s. Mike,
Carol Channing,and ‘Dimonds Are A Girl’s Best Friend.’ She still is a Diva at 87 now. Before homosexual legality, Gays loved the sheer Camp of her entertainment. On Broadway or West-End Shows, Carol Channing was the Glitziest of them all. It was rumoured that Mae West, off Stage and out of the spotlight was quiet prudish. I heard this said on many occasions in the 1960s.

]]> By: Mike http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79486 Mike Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:05:42 +0000 http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/27/feature-the-divas-who-helped-gays-out-of-the-closet/#comment-79486 Witty article but you forgot the one and only Googie Gomez(Who?) The Torch song singer and MC at the Ritz Bathhouse in the Film "The Ritz!" A marvelous creation of Rita Moreno in a Bassesque/latino bombshell, constantly be mistaken for a drag queen and wanting to make it big on Broadway; "one day you will see the name Googie Gomez in Lights and you will say "Was that her?" and they will say "Yes that was her" BUT Ju know what? I always was her just nobody noticed!" Witty article but you forgot the one and only Googie Gomez(Who?) The Torch song singer and MC at the Ritz Bathhouse in the Film “The Ritz!” A marvelous creation of Rita Moreno in a Bassesque/latino bombshell, constantly be mistaken for a drag queen and wanting to make it big on Broadway; “one day you will see the name Googie Gomez in Lights and you will say “Was that her?” and they will say “Yes that was her” BUT Ju know what? I always was her just nobody noticed!”

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