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  1. to make a complaint with the Press Complaints Commission, go to http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/form.html

  2. Hopefully the fact that the autopsy shows he died of a genetic heart condition will shut this vile woman up!

  3. Meanwhile, Times journalist Caitlin Moran wrote in a tongue-in-cheek message: “Jan Moir better pray she never needs another hair cut or interior design job again.”

    tongue in cheek is a euphamism for blatant stereotyping, then? because all hairdressers and interior designers are gay, of course?

    We spent all week complaining about forums purporting to be connected to West Ham spreading these ‘being gay kills’ lies, and now a newspaper is propogating the same idea! It’s bloody awful.

  4. Vile, vile, vile!

    To use the premature death of one gay man to condemn the lifestyle of the rest is in particularly poor taste. Stephen was “out” but he never claimed to be any kind of role model; just himself.

    To use your own disbelief at the widely-reported circumstances of his death to create some kind of general malaise around Civil Partnership beggars belief. If any kind of message is to be sent to young gay men then is it certainly not that the foaming-mouthed Jan Moir sadly dissaproves!

  5. Andrew Jones 16 Oct 2009, 2:18pm

    Has anyone else noticed ALL the advertising has been removed from Jan’s “article”

  6. I was wondering ho long it would be before the Filth Press came up with something along these lines. It turns out that they couldn’t even wait for the funeral.

    There’s nothing like sneers and insinuations to get The Mail going, never mind that the ONLY hard evidence that has so far appeared is that he died of natural causes.

    We should respect his memory.

  7. what a vile old bag – please do complain to the Press Complaints Commission (link in first post)

    lee

  8. Theres now a petition on number 10 to have him/her sacked
    search Jan Moir

    Even if the government cant force em out all the support will help show how many disagree with the homophobic views of him/her

  9. she has a point about civil marriages though – how many partner links do you see on gaydar? yes, it’s their choice, but it needs saying….

  10. I take it hetro married couples don’t have threesomes or die unexpectedly!

  11. she has a point about the worth of civil marriages though – just one look on gaydar and you have to wonder…..

  12. Simon Murphy 16 Oct 2009, 2:43pm

    Stephen: No 11: “she has a point about the worth of civil marriages though – just one look on gaydar and you have to wonder….. ”

    Considering that over 50% of straight civil marriages end in divorce she has no point at all!!!

  13. Vincent Poffley 16 Oct 2009, 2:47pm

    The Daily Mail really is ridiculous. But help is at hand – http://www.qwghlm.co.uk/toys/dailymail/ With this simple device you need never look at the real thing again.

  14. “she has a point about the worth of civil marriages though”

    Does she really, Stephen? Most people on gaydar are single. So you are saying straight couples are 100% monogamous? Don’t be so ridiculous. And look through the classifieds “lonely hearts” of a newspaper will show you how many married people like a big “of discrete fun”… not to mention the high divorce rate for adultery.

  15. Hmmm, part of me thinks she should be sacked, but to play devil’s advocate for a minute, if she stays on at the Daily Mail and we all know that all the bigoted homophobic journalists generally write for the Daily Mail it makes it that much easier to ignore her than if she weasels her way into a job at another newspaper.
    I mean let’s face it, this is the Tabloid bog-paper that gave us Richard Littlejohn and Melanie Phillips, it’s not like they’re going to change their editorial policy and replace her with a culturally sensitive gay-loving liberal anytime soon.
    Better to just vote with your feet and not to buy the Mein Kampf digest [as I call it] in the first place.

  16. Stephen

    I don’t believe that gay people are nearly as promiscuous as a lot of the press make out – but then I’ve never been on Gaydar.

    But in any case, now is not the time for journalists to be making points like this based on overinterpreting the evidence, and spitting on someone’s not yet dug grave.

  17. Sister Mary Clarence 16 Oct 2009, 2:59pm

    I’ve made my complaint to the PCC

  18. I feel a bit like Abraham Lincoln (lots of newspapers were hostile to his war to force the South to stay in the Union)- that sometimes the freedom of the press is a matter for regret!!

  19. Jan Moir’s next article is: SEX CAN ONLY BE SAFE IN THE MISSIONARY POSITION

  20. Vincent Poffley – That was an entertaining version of the Daily mail, but for an alternative you could try the Daily Mail Dictionary for a glossary of terms and the context they’re used in…
    http://www.angrymob.uponnothing.co.uk/daily-mail-dictionary
    Also see Charlie Brooker’s pitch for a reality show called “Daily Mail Island” in which a group of people are sent to an island with only the Daily Mail to read as a social experiment!

  21. I’ve no idea what Gaydar is in this context at least. But no, she doesn’t have a point. There is no reliable evidence that gay people are any more promiscuous than heterosexuals. And even if there WAS, Stephen didn’t die from being gay, or from being promiscuous. It is disgusting to suggest it.

    Not buying the Daily Mail seems like the best policy to me. Goes with not buying The Sun.

  22. Sensibly Common 16 Oct 2009, 3:21pm

    Jan Moir is an idiot.

  23. “Not buying the Daily Mail seems like the best policy to me. Goes with not buying The Sun.”

    Rose, you said it…the most effective voice we have is the power of choosing where to spend our money. The Daily Mail isn’t worth killing trees to print on.

  24. What has Matt Lucus’s ex killing himself got to do with it? I am sure there are str8 divorced people who do this? And HOW DARE this vile woman belittle our civil partnerships when so many str8 people get divorced? (often leaving distressed and confused children!)AND lastly, how dare she comment on someone’s death when they are not even buried yet; have some respect!!!

  25. Pumpkin Pie 16 Oct 2009, 3:36pm

    We should all respect her freedom of speech and even give her a podium to stand on so she can reach more people and we can try to debate rationally with her while she belittles us with vicious and illogical lies!

    That run-on sentence was brought to you by sarcasm. This creep is a prime example of why hate speech should never be protected as free speech.

  26. Jan Moir, along with Amanda Platell and Melanie Phillips, forms part of a trio of homophobic contributors to that particularly homophobic paper ‘The Daily Mail;. It is interesting that all three are women!

  27. I can imagine that Jan Moir, along with Amanda Platell and Melanie Phillips are all in a huddle, chanting “When shall we 3 meet again”

  28. “she has a point about the worth of civil marriages though – just one look on gaydar and you have to wonder….. ”
    @Stephen

    Gays can’t enter into civil marriages.

  29. I added some strong cooments at the bottom of the article onMail website.

    I’ve never read such an odious column in my life, truly. Her words are bile. The stink of homphobia reaches out and up and grabs your throat. Nothing could justify what she wrote.

  30. Currently making a complaint to the PCC – even though, as a journalism student, I know it’s only going to have a small impact, if that – but I’m rather amused that, when trying to find the article, it’s rather hidden now. You search the name “Jan Moir” and receive a list – click most recent, and it still only comes up with yesterday’s column. You have to click on the option by her name that lets you view ALL her articles.

    Even if the PCC won’t take much notice, the Daily Mail obviously has. In its own cowardly way.

    And may I just point out? As a child of divorce (my parents are STRAIGHT, too, Ms. Moir), I KNOW how traumatising those are. But correct me if I’m wrong, wasn’t Stephen Gately very happily married? She had no right to bring the matter of civil partnerships up, not when it had no bearing on how he died, and most CERTAINLY no right to imply that they are anything less than straight marriages. Despicable woman.

  31. The PCC form is a little tedious. You need to be specific about the code of conduct she is breaching, so to help you out here are my points for cut and paste:
    The article by Jan Moir breaks the code of practice on a number of fronts.
    1)It presents inaccurate, misleading or distorted information by seeking to falsley and provocatively portray, without any reference to facts or research, that gay relationships are inherently more “dangerous”, prone to suicide and early death then heterosexual relationships.
    2) The comments are prejudicial to a deceased person’s sexual orientation and casts wider prejudice on same sex relationships.
    3) It intrudes on the family’s grief. At a time when Stephen Gately has yet to be buried this opinion piece seeks to portray him as another example “a life that is shadowed by dark appetites or fractured by private vice.” There is no evidence of either.
    It is a deeply homophobic piece of writing, and offensive to not only the gay and lesbian community but Stephen’s family and friends.

  32. The PCC is a complete waste of time. Don’t shorten your lives with such establishment claptrap. What will happen is the “great and the good”, Stephen fry probably included, will have a lovely long boozy lunch, forget about what they were supposed to “rule on”, and then issue some ludicrous form of words and fine or prosecute no-one.

    However, by the way, Jan Moir is only offering an opinion. Disagree by all means, but the shock and horror and calls for censorship are OTT.

    And before we cannonise Stephen Gately, should we perhaps await the toxicology reports and the police statements by all witnesses, just in case we are left with egg on our faces? he wouldn’t be the first pop star to die of an overdose, would he? Nice guy he seemed and all, though.

    Let people vent their spleens, don’t keep calling for censorship, it makes the gay lobby sound like fascists. What’s next, burning books?

  33. It is hard not to feel jealous of Jan Moir and her incredibly stimulating and rich life paid for by her insightful reflections on why she does not fancy Terry Wogan (leave the poor boy alone), hates dinner parties (oh, it’s a hard life) and why Sarah Palin’s hair will be her undoing (as opposed to her hideous racist and homophobic extreme right-wing views I suppose?).

    Still, her new-money middle-class snobbery and superficiality is much preferable to her ignorant and unpleasant political views. Consider such gems as why the government should consider forced birth control, sterilisation or imprisonment of ‘unfit mothers’ (whoever they are; I would say a bigoted mother causes great deal of harm to their children); apologising for comedians who make racist jokes or why women are to blame for sexism in the workplace. The joy of the Daily Mail…

    Yet today’s thinly veiled homophobic attack on Stephen Gately is disgraceful. Jan’s article is based on crude stereotypes of gay men that we have too much uncontrolled sex, take drugs and cannot hold down relationships (I quote: “…under the carapace of glittering, hedonistic celebrity, the ooze of a very different and more dangerous lifestyle has seeped out for all to see.”).

    This article would be more at home in the 1980s when homophobic press hysteria about AIDS was all the rage and gay men and lesbians took the brunt of the violence it provoked; attacked on the streets, sacked from their jobs and failed by a Conservative Government that sat on its hands as thousands of gay men died.

    This article does great disrespect to the memory of Stephen Gately. Jan Moir should immediately apologize and the Daily Mail should sack the editor that allowed her to publish this hateful drivel.

  34. that.. ‘person’ deserves much worse than shes going to get

  35. Julian, Jan Moir may be offering an opinion, but it is an offensive opinion. What if she had said that black people are not the same as white people, nand should be used only as slaves? That was an opinion that used to be held in the past. But common decency shouted that down. We should shout down false opinions.

    ARE we waiting for any further evidence? The post mortem concluded natural causes. The rest is just tabloid gossip. There is no ‘egg on our faces’. At the worst, Stephen did no more than any other young male, including all the hetero ones who go over there in packs, does on holiday in Spanish resorts – had a few drinks with the boys. That’s all anyone can say against him.

  36. LBC Radio in London have reported the jan Moir article by all accounts she released a statement saying there is a internet campaign being set up against her – good i hope you lose your job

    Lee

  37. georgina britton 16 Oct 2009, 5:04pm

    What a horrible vindictive woman. l realy hope that stephens family have not read her biased comments.They have had to deal with losing a loved family member in tragic circumstances that no one could forsee.Just because stephen was gay does not give her or anyone else the right to comment on his lifestyle and least of all to print it in a newspaper. l am sure stephens family and fans are more devastated that he has passed away and do not care about the fact that he was gay. l will never buy the daily mail again.

  38. “she released a statement saying there is a internet campaign being set up against her”

    Reminds me of a line I once heard – “By defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” – Adolf Hitler, Berlin, 1938.

  39. This is the whole point we do nothing -maybe the PCC fail us but complain it better than doing nothing at all. Scroll above Stewart as produced a piece which you can cut and paste.

    Well that the only truthful words that have come from her vile mouth today ‘there is a internet campaign being set up against her’ yes love there is.

    Lee

  40. Julian

    I don’t think you remotely have to canonise Steephen Gately to feel that it is deeply offensive to publish these prurient speculations, before his funeral, quite apart from using them to spread insinuations about all gay relationships.

    If any eveidence turns out that his behaviour had anything to do with his tragic early death then, by all means, people should learn the lessons and avoid that, but for the moment that’s tasteless speculation mixed in The Mail’s case with an almost masturbatory salivating.

    She is rightly getting a roasting.

    To compare that to book burning is ludicrous.

  41. I agree the overall tone of the piece is homophobic; an intolerable farrago of rubbish.

    Of course, until today no one has ever heard of Jan Moir until today. She has knowingly caused controversy as device to promote herself.

    Her sty mate Melanie Phillips does it all the time.

    All the best.

  42. And so the apologists start….Stephen, Jan Moir’s article was not simply offensive, it was a direct attack on our equality by seeking to paint our relationships as less than and inferior to heterosexuals. To imply that being in a gay relationship ends in suicide is homophobia at it’s most vile. Interesting that you choose to channel your energy into making a defence of her voice rather then getting on the PCC, writing to the Mail or other media outlet and doing something positive for our community – it speaks volumes.

  43. BBC radio 5live are reporting this but leaving out all the homophobic parts of the article. They had Jan Moir on claiming she is the real victim of this!

    How sick is she!

  44. Sister Mary Clarence 16 Oct 2009, 7:24pm

    Poor Jan and the Daily Mail just got a kicking on Sky News too

  45. Simon Murphy 16 Oct 2009, 7:37pm

    Link to make a complaint:

    http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html

    Link to the article (which must be provided:
    http://www.pcc.org.uk/complaints/process.html

    The sections of the journalists code of conduct which this article breaches:

    1.1 – “1 Accuracy i) The Press must take care not to publish inaccurate, misleading or distorted information, including pictures.

    12.1 “12 Discrimination i) The press must avoid prejudicial or pejorative reference to an individual’s race, colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or to any physical or mental illness or disability. ”

    Section 5.1 does not really apply as that relates to intrusion into personal grief or shock so that doesn’t apply unless you were related to Stephen Gately or Andrew Cowles.

  46. Jason Finch 16 Oct 2009, 11:10pm

    Jan Moir: Bigot, homophobe, both, neither? Vote at http://www.votemoir.com – pass it on!

  47. “To be honest healthy young men just don’t climb into their pyjamas and die….”

    …or words to that effect; I cannot be ars’d to find the exact lines and cut and paste.

    I buy a newspaper for news, Ms Moir, strange as that may be.
    I don’t buy a paper for someone else’s idea of what MIGHT have happened; I could write that myself and save the 50 pence and come up with a point as valid, or not, as yours, since neither of us was there at the time of his early demise.
    The DAILY MAIL has for a long time deteriorated into just another loo-roll; I haven’t bought it for yonks.

    I shan’t for yonk to come.

    Keith.

  48. Bishop Ioan 17 Oct 2009, 9:49am

    Just posted to the PCC. This woman is vile beyond words to write such a piece of filth and the poor young man not even buried yet. I wasn’t a fan of Boyzone but have read a few things and that many who knew or met Stephen said what a sweet, caring man he was. He does not deserve this. His husband does not deserve this. His family does not deserve it. I hope the PCC gets enough complaints and that this woman is sacked.

  49. I wouldn’t line the bottom of my budgie’s cage with the odious Daily Mail.
    Suggest that telling companies which advertise in the Daily Mail that you will no longer buy from them is our strongest weapon. The only language the gutter press understands is that of advertising revenues.

  50. complaints to the PCC get the following response:

    Thank you for sending us your complaint about the Daily Mail article on the subject of the death of Stephen Gately. We have received numerous complaints about this matter.
    I should first make clear that the Commission generally requires the involvement of directly affected parties before it can begin an investigation into an article. On this occasion, it may be a matter for the family of Mr Gately to raise a complaint about how his death has been treated by the Daily Mail. I can inform you that we have made ourselves available to the family and Mr Gately’s bandmates, in order that they can use our services if they wish.
    We require the direct involvement of affected parties because the PCC process can have a public outcome and it would be discourteous for the Commission to publish information relating to individuals without their knowledge or consent. Indeed, doing so might unwittingly add to any intrusion. Additionally, one of the PCC’s roles is dispute resolution, and we would need contact with the affected party in order to determine what would be an acceptable means of settling a complaint.
    On initial examination, it would appear that you are, therefore, a third party to the complaint, and wemay not be able to pursue your concerns further. However, if you feel that your complaint touches on claims that do not relate directly to Mr Gately or his family, please let us know, making clear how they raise a breach of the Code of Practice. If you feel that the Commission should waive its third party rules, please make clear why you believe this.

    So, as we are not ‘directly involved parties’, what other avenues of complaint would you suggest?

  51. The thing is, I was much more offended by the report by Pink News, who prejudged the post mortem by joining in pretty nasty speculation:

    He is said to have been drinking heavily for eight hours and may have choked on his own vomit after going to sleep on a sofa at his apartment.

    That made me swoon: partly because I thought I should be able to expect better of Pink News; but also because it’s a vile way to remember a hero of so many people. Even now I’ve not been able to get that image out of my head, and it turns out to be complete tosh.

    Did you also report Pink News to the PCC while you were at it, Sister Mary C. (et al) ?

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