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	<title>Comments on: Stephen Gately died of natural causes, post mortem examination finds</title>
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		<title>By: lizichell</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-78522</link>
		<dc:creator>lizichell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with all homophobia, bigotry and racism is of course and always has been religion. When groups of people in their billions all embrace life destroying myths which are at total loggerheads with science and progression then intolerance of other belief systems and dogmas occur and this extends to race and anyone who is different to the teachings of a particular dogma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with all homophobia, bigotry and racism is of course and always has been religion. When groups of people in their billions all embrace life destroying myths which are at total loggerheads with science and progression then intolerance of other belief systems and dogmas occur and this extends to race and anyone who is different to the teachings of a particular dogma.</p>
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		<title>By: lizichell</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizichell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if he did die through choking on his own vomit and being drunk, it still has absolutely nothing to do with his sexual orientation and people like Jan Moir are only perpetuating our ignorance and homophobia. These people have a responsibility to deliver the news and not to make up lies to suit their own political/religious beliefs. It still amazes my that she assumed that his death was &#039;sleazy&#039;. She has abandoned her responsibility as a member of the press and would be better off writing bibles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if he did die through choking on his own vomit and being drunk, it still has absolutely nothing to do with his sexual orientation and people like Jan Moir are only perpetuating our ignorance and homophobia. These people have a responsibility to deliver the news and not to make up lies to suit their own political/religious beliefs. It still amazes my that she assumed that his death was &#8216;sleazy&#8217;. She has abandoned her responsibility as a member of the press and would be better off writing bibles.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am surprised Sister Mary Clarence hasn&#039;t weaved a Tory party victory at the next election into this complicated thread.

None of the articles I have read on forthcoming funeral arrangements mention Cowles; they seem to be more about Louie Walsh. 

I think the Gately&#039;s family and friends are probably just hoping Cowles allows a proper period of mourning before he is next reported in the media. I hope we don&#039;t see headlines like &quot;merry widower hits the town&quot; or &quot;Cowles spotted on the Heath&quot; in a fornight&#039;s time.

All the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised Sister Mary Clarence hasn&#8217;t weaved a Tory party victory at the next election into this complicated thread.</p>
<p>None of the articles I have read on forthcoming funeral arrangements mention Cowles; they seem to be more about Louie Walsh. </p>
<p>I think the Gately&#8217;s family and friends are probably just hoping Cowles allows a proper period of mourning before he is next reported in the media. I hope we don&#8217;t see headlines like &#8220;merry widower hits the town&#8221; or &#8220;Cowles spotted on the Heath&#8221; in a fornight&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>All the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psephos:

That&#039;s Mister Jean-Paul to you, FEE-FEE!

Oh, and you still didn&#039;t express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family.

What you did say was: 

&quot;Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family and close friends&quot;

Again, what are you saying? Who&#039;s &quot;we&quot;? 

There you go pontificating again telling us what we should do after we have all done it except you, you Monkey-twit!

Say it from the heart now: 

&quot;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&quot;

Only an ex-gay homophobic, alcoholic, schizophrenic, cyberspace shapeshifter like Monkeychops would refuse to say something like that on a thread like this.

Of course you could always put it in your own words, like the Phelps family does. Is that who you mean when you use the pronoun &quot;we&quot;? 

Like in &quot;we&quot; should, but &quot;we&quot; won&#039;t.

C&#039;mon now, don&#039;t try to worm your way out of this one, you cruel, ruthless and heartless ex-gay hypocrite.

See you at thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com. 

Don&#039;t you just love Canadian news, eh? 

Heartless troll, you Monkeychops R sick and a threat to civilized society, and you know it.

Oh, and if you can&#039;t be bothered to express your sympathy to the family of a dearly departed gay man, why don&#039;t you get the hell off this thread and also off PinkNews once and for all, sweetie.

There are lots of sites where you can grab an international spotlight by being a terrorist sympathizer like you were in the &quot;Turkey bans gay Website&quot; thread when you were using the name of Jalex from thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com.

In post 34 you just said:  

&quot;Frankly I can&#039;t be bothered to reply to these incoherent ramblings and verbal mud pies (also not exactly appropriate here), other than to point out the obvious that &quot;we&quot; includes I.&quot;

There you go pontificating again, eh Monkeychops, making up the rules as you go along trying to discretely worm out of your stupid comments, which, btw, have not been removed by the moderator. 

Surely you weren&#039;t &quot;lying&quot; by telling &quot;we&quot; that you had instructed the instructor to remove your assisine stupidity from this thread, eh MONKEYCHOPS.

Now, repeat after me:

&quot;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&quot;

If you can&#039;t do that, you despicable ex-gay sadistic moron, then let me put it bluntly: 

GO TO HELL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psephos:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s Mister Jean-Paul to you, FEE-FEE!</p>
<p>Oh, and you still didn&#8217;t express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>What you did say was: </p>
<p>&#8220;Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family and close friends&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, what are you saying? Who&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221;? </p>
<p>There you go pontificating again telling us what we should do after we have all done it except you, you Monkey-twit!</p>
<p>Say it from the heart now: </p>
<p>&#8220;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only an ex-gay homophobic, alcoholic, schizophrenic, cyberspace shapeshifter like Monkeychops would refuse to say something like that on a thread like this.</p>
<p>Of course you could always put it in your own words, like the Phelps family does. Is that who you mean when you use the pronoun &#8220;we&#8221;? </p>
<p>Like in &#8220;we&#8221; should, but &#8220;we&#8221; won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon now, don&#8217;t try to worm your way out of this one, you cruel, ruthless and heartless ex-gay hypocrite.</p>
<p>See you at thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you just love Canadian news, eh? </p>
<p>Heartless troll, you Monkeychops R sick and a threat to civilized society, and you know it.</p>
<p>Oh, and if you can&#8217;t be bothered to express your sympathy to the family of a dearly departed gay man, why don&#8217;t you get the hell off this thread and also off PinkNews once and for all, sweetie.</p>
<p>There are lots of sites where you can grab an international spotlight by being a terrorist sympathizer like you were in the &#8220;Turkey bans gay Website&#8221; thread when you were using the name of Jalex from thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com.</p>
<p>In post 34 you just said:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Frankly I can&#8217;t be bothered to reply to these incoherent ramblings and verbal mud pies (also not exactly appropriate here), other than to point out the obvious that &#8220;we&#8221; includes I.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you go pontificating again, eh Monkeychops, making up the rules as you go along trying to discretely worm out of your stupid comments, which, btw, have not been removed by the moderator. </p>
<p>Surely you weren&#8217;t &#8220;lying&#8221; by telling &#8220;we&#8221; that you had instructed the instructor to remove your assisine stupidity from this thread, eh MONKEYCHOPS.</p>
<p>Now, repeat after me:</p>
<p>&#8220;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t do that, you despicable ex-gay sadistic moron, then let me put it bluntly: </p>
<p>GO TO HELL!</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77328</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to the real purpose of this thread, the funeral is on Saturday at midday in Dublin. I believe in prayer, so I will say one at that time. Those who don&#039;t, and I know there are a lot of you, spare a quiet moment for this man who so many people have described as &#039;gentle&#039; and his family. The rest, the tabloid stories, the guesswork about what happned, let it lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the real purpose of this thread, the funeral is on Saturday at midday in Dublin. I believe in prayer, so I will say one at that time. Those who don&#8217;t, and I know there are a lot of you, spare a quiet moment for this man who so many people have described as &#8216;gentle&#8217; and his family. The rest, the tabloid stories, the guesswork about what happned, let it lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Psephos</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77318</link>
		<dc:creator>Psephos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean Paul

Frankly I can&#039;t be bothered to reply to these incoherent ramblings and verbal mud pies (also not exactly appropriate here), other than to point out the obvious that &quot;we&quot; includes I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean Paul</p>
<p>Frankly I can&#8217;t be bothered to reply to these incoherent ramblings and verbal mud pies (also not exactly appropriate here), other than to point out the obvious that &#8220;we&#8221; includes I.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77295</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psephos:

Oh, and you still didn&#039;t express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family.

What you did say was: 

&quot;Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family and close friends&quot;

Again, what are you saying? Who&#039;s &quot;we&quot;? 

There you go pontificating again telling us what we should do after we have all done it except you, you Monkey-twit!

Say it from the heart now: 

&quot;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&quot;

Only an ex-gay homophobic, alcoholic, schizophrenic, cyberspace shapeshifter like Monkeychops would refuse to say something like that on a thread like this.

Of course you could always put it in your own words, like the Phelps family does. Is that who you mean when you use the pronoun &quot;we&quot;? 

Like in &quot;we&quot; should, but &quot;we&quot; won&#039;t.

C&#039;mon now, don&#039;t try to worm your way out of this one, you cruel,  ruthless and heartless ex-gay hypocrite.

See you at thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com. Don&#039;t you just love Canadian news, eh? 

Heartless troll, you Monkeychops R sick and a threat to civilized society, and you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psephos:</p>
<p>Oh, and you still didn&#8217;t express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>What you did say was: </p>
<p>&#8220;Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family and close friends&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, what are you saying? Who&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221;? </p>
<p>There you go pontificating again telling us what we should do after we have all done it except you, you Monkey-twit!</p>
<p>Say it from the heart now: </p>
<p>&#8220;I wish to express my sympathy to the Gately family on the death of their wonderful and talented son, Stephen.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only an ex-gay homophobic, alcoholic, schizophrenic, cyberspace shapeshifter like Monkeychops would refuse to say something like that on a thread like this.</p>
<p>Of course you could always put it in your own words, like the Phelps family does. Is that who you mean when you use the pronoun &#8220;we&#8221;? </p>
<p>Like in &#8220;we&#8221; should, but &#8220;we&#8221; won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon now, don&#8217;t try to worm your way out of this one, you cruel,  ruthless and heartless ex-gay hypocrite.</p>
<p>See you at thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com. Don&#8217;t you just love Canadian news, eh? </p>
<p>Heartless troll, you Monkeychops R sick and a threat to civilized society, and you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77282</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psephos:

I&#039;m not sure the moderator will take orders from you, sweetie.

Your posts 15 and 18 are part of this thread and they show you up for what you really are. So I think they should stay. after all, there is no foul language in your comments...not yet anyway.

And you&#039;re the one who&#039;s been saying how self-centered gays are all this time, eh Monkeychops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psephos:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure the moderator will take orders from you, sweetie.</p>
<p>Your posts 15 and 18 are part of this thread and they show you up for what you really are. So I think they should stay. after all, there is no foul language in your comments&#8230;not yet anyway.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re the one who&#8217;s been saying how self-centered gays are all this time, eh Monkeychops.</p>
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		<title>By: Psephos</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77265</link>
		<dc:creator>Psephos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family and close friends.

I have asked the moderator to delete my comments above. Though well intended, on reflection they&#039;re not appropriate to this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, we should concentrate on expressing sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family and close friends.</p>
<p>I have asked the moderator to delete my comments above. Though well intended, on reflection they&#8217;re not appropriate to this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77264</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Macdonald, I agree with what you say there. Sadly, by all accounts, living life to the full was what they were trying to do on their holiday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Macdonald, I agree with what you say there. Sadly, by all accounts, living life to the full was what they were trying to do on their holiday.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77260</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean-Paul, you are so astute.  I thought the same.  The god-worhsipping ex-seminarian, indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean-Paul, you are so astute.  I thought the same.  The god-worhsipping ex-seminarian, indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psephos:

You have just succeeded in disrupting the thread, and you have completely forgotten to express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#039;s family.

Have you been taking lessons from the Phelps family who goes around disrupting the funerals of gay Amarican soldiers with their GOD HATES FAGS signs?

And now in your post 26 Monkeychops...I mean Fee-Fausse, you say:

&quot;We should always try to learn what we can from tragedies like this, even if we might not totally agree, but that should come later.&quot;

What exactly are you saying? Who&#039;s &quot;we&quot;? 

Why don&#039;t you use the pronoun &quot;I&quot; when talking about yourself, Monkeychops...I mean Fee-Fausse?

Why don&#039;t you give us an inkling of what it is you have learnt from this tragedy instead of pontificating that &quot;we&quot; should learn something about it?

Now, go back to your home website (thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com) ....look that up Mihangel ap Yrs and Rose and tell me what color you see. And why is there a direct link to PinkNews from there, eh Jalex (Monkeychops&#039; last alter ego on the &quot;Turkey bans gay websites&quot; thread where he disrupted that one too by calling everyone &quot;ignorant&quot;.

Monkeychops, Sugar Plum Fairie, Anon, Cirtex, Jalex...did I miss any, eh sweetie?

Blow...your...crocodile...apology...out...your...ear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psephos:</p>
<p>You have just succeeded in disrupting the thread, and you have completely forgotten to express a word of sympathy to Stephen&#8217;s family.</p>
<p>Have you been taking lessons from the Phelps family who goes around disrupting the funerals of gay Amarican soldiers with their GOD HATES FAGS signs?</p>
<p>And now in your post 26 Monkeychops&#8230;I mean Fee-Fausse, you say:</p>
<p>&#8220;We should always try to learn what we can from tragedies like this, even if we might not totally agree, but that should come later.&#8221;</p>
<p>What exactly are you saying? Who&#8217;s &#8220;we&#8221;? </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you use the pronoun &#8220;I&#8221; when talking about yourself, Monkeychops&#8230;I mean Fee-Fausse?</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you give us an inkling of what it is you have learnt from this tragedy instead of pontificating that &#8220;we&#8221; should learn something about it?</p>
<p>Now, go back to your home website (thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com) &#8230;.look that up Mihangel ap Yrs and Rose and tell me what color you see. And why is there a direct link to PinkNews from there, eh Jalex (Monkeychops&#8217; last alter ego on the &#8220;Turkey bans gay websites&#8221; thread where he disrupted that one too by calling everyone &#8220;ignorant&#8221;.</p>
<p>Monkeychops, Sugar Plum Fairie, Anon, Cirtex, Jalex&#8230;did I miss any, eh sweetie?</p>
<p>Blow&#8230;your&#8230;crocodile&#8230;apology&#8230;out&#8230;your&#8230;ear!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-Paul Bentham</title>
		<link>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/13/bulgarian-clubber-tells-of-finding-boyzone-star-stephen-gatelys-body-2/#comment-77245</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Paul Bentham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sincere sympathies to the Gately family.</description>
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		<title>By: Psephos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psephos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose Mihangel

I agree. I am sorry if my comments sounded in any way mean spirited. We should concentrate on mourning the terrible loss of a talented and likeable young man.

We should always try to learn what we can from tragedies like this, even if we might not totally agree, but that should come later.</description>
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<p>I agree. I am sorry if my comments sounded in any way mean spirited. We should concentrate on mourning the terrible loss of a talented and likeable young man.</p>
<p>We should always try to learn what we can from tragedies like this, even if we might not totally agree, but that should come later.</p>
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		<title>By: John Macdonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a timely reminder that life should not be taken for granted. Life should be cherished and enjoyed to our fullest and best. You cannot ever know when life will be taken from you. RIP Stephen, you will be missed by your many fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a timely reminder that life should not be taken for granted. Life should be cherished and enjoyed to our fullest and best. You cannot ever know when life will be taken from you. RIP Stephen, you will be missed by your many fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mihangel apYrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihangel apYrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS Rose
welcome to our forum. Your rose-tinted glasses may allow a less misanthropic view to survive - we can be too cynical.

We hope, but can&#039;t trust to succcess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS Rose<br />
welcome to our forum. Your rose-tinted glasses may allow a less misanthropic view to survive &#8211; we can be too cynical.</p>
<p>We hope, but can&#8217;t trust to succcess</p>
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		<title>By: Mihangel apYrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihangel apYrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not jearst - HEART

damned fingers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not jearst &#8211; HEART</p>
<p>damned fingers</p>
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		<title>By: Mihangel apYrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihangel apYrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose
sorry

we have slightly different views of things (to be argued over a bottle), but I hoe we both grieve the death of a young guy (by my accounting!)

He was young enough to have been my son, and I consider all under 35 as within that bracket.  I grieve the loss of who he was to his family:  I know if I lost any of my younger friends my jeaert would break - the death of my older fiends just batters it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose<br />
sorry</p>
<p>we have slightly different views of things (to be argued over a bottle), but I hoe we both grieve the death of a young guy (by my accounting!)</p>
<p>He was young enough to have been my son, and I consider all under 35 as within that bracket.  I grieve the loss of who he was to his family:  I know if I lost any of my younger friends my jeaert would break &#8211; the death of my older fiends just batters it</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guys, please don&#039;t get bogged down in an argument about semantics on a topic like this one. its heartbreaking enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys, please don&#8217;t get bogged down in an argument about semantics on a topic like this one. its heartbreaking enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Mihangel apYrs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mihangel apYrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps I ought to have said that a notable part of our gay &quot;society&quot; doesn&#039;t subscribe to the heteronormative, judeo-christian moral ethos of our existing society.  For many gay men anyway sex comes first with the friendship/relationship coming afterwards.

I will glissade over your statements concerning physical dangers of non-monogamy - many marriages are unsafe places for women even now!  The issue of emotional insecurity is personal to individuals, though I welcome your evidence for &quot;There is plenty of evidence that non-monogamous sex is riskier .. and I think most people would feel psychologically as well.&quot;

However, I will take issue with your comments concerning  &quot;marriage&quot;.  This is a legal contract to allow special rights to a chosen person.  The whole &quot;being in love&quot; bit is sentiment and is not demonstrated by endurance now or in the past (except by relious and social pressure).  I give my partner special rights to my life, my wealth, and to support.  My CP has assured the legal benefits that marriage brings: it doesn&#039;t define my relationship or that which existed in the previous 30 years.  Marriage (or CP) doesn&#039;t allow one to own the other, merely require that nothing interferes with the fundamental trusts and agreements.

There is no &quot;one size fits all&quot;, and the gay culture has understood this. What we must avoid is proclaiming that one&#039;s own way is best or only way.

I will finish by saying that I&#039;m not attackng you: this is the sort of discussion that is better done with a glass of wine rather than coldly thus.  Pace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps I ought to have said that a notable part of our gay &#8220;society&#8221; doesn&#8217;t subscribe to the heteronormative, judeo-christian moral ethos of our existing society.  For many gay men anyway sex comes first with the friendship/relationship coming afterwards.</p>
<p>I will glissade over your statements concerning physical dangers of non-monogamy &#8211; many marriages are unsafe places for women even now!  The issue of emotional insecurity is personal to individuals, though I welcome your evidence for &#8220;There is plenty of evidence that non-monogamous sex is riskier .. and I think most people would feel psychologically as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I will take issue with your comments concerning  &#8220;marriage&#8221;.  This is a legal contract to allow special rights to a chosen person.  The whole &#8220;being in love&#8221; bit is sentiment and is not demonstrated by endurance now or in the past (except by relious and social pressure).  I give my partner special rights to my life, my wealth, and to support.  My CP has assured the legal benefits that marriage brings: it doesn&#8217;t define my relationship or that which existed in the previous 30 years.  Marriage (or CP) doesn&#8217;t allow one to own the other, merely require that nothing interferes with the fundamental trusts and agreements.</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;one size fits all&#8221;, and the gay culture has understood this. What we must avoid is proclaiming that one&#8217;s own way is best or only way.</p>
<p>I will finish by saying that I&#8217;m not attackng you: this is the sort of discussion that is better done with a glass of wine rather than coldly thus.  Pace</p>
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