On what charge? Being a fully practicing Moslem?

What do we really think of censorship, eh.

Comment by Jean-Paul Bentham — October 18, 2009 @ 2:21

Answer: For being in an organization (Muslim religion) that teaches to kill non-Muslims. Any religious sponsored country that promotes terrorism, bigotry and anti-civil-rights under the War Act is in fact a terrorist nation and its supporters are fair game (take any action to cripple or take out said enemy)and therefore Turkey as we all know is a Muslim nation, although there are other religions in their country, their own laws are based on the Quran and the Quran teaches to kill all infidels (non-Muslims.) However the GLBT in their country that denounced this uncivilized practice should be not classified as either terrorists or a threat to the security of free nations.

Why is Turkey in NATO?

Quaere: Why is Turkey in NATO?

Is Turkish membership of any value, or is it a danger to the effectiveness of NATO as that organization must necessarily turn its attention away from Russia to the threat from Islam worldwide, and especially to the threat, foreign and domestic, that Muslims who take Islam seriously pose to the West and to the West’s most important military alliance, NATO?

Of what conceivable good, of what possible benefit, is Turkish membership in NATO to the other members of NATO? And why should Turkey be a member, and not instead a country that is of far greater value militarily and morally to that very West that NATO was originally established to protect — that is, Israel?
Some still choose to describe Turkey, quite backdatedly (it’s not the 1950s or the 1960s anymore) as “our NATO ally Turkey.” Turkey is indeed a member of NATO. But the main reason for NATO’s existence in the past was the military threat posed by the Soviet Union, and Turkey, which was happy to collaborate in efforts to contain its ancient enemy Russia, was a good ally. The Soviet Union was for the Turks their hereditary enemy, Russia, under a slightly different guise, and Turkey could and did offer troops (for the Korean War), and listening posts and airbases.

But who could imagine Recep Tayyip Erdogan offering bases today, or any kind of military aid, that would be part of an Infidel coalition against what would be understood to be representatives of Islam? Turkey today is in the control of a regime that is intent on undoing Kemalism and determined to make Turkey firmly part of the Muslim world — even if, at the same time, the regime of Erdogan is outraged by any attempts by Europeans to keep Turkey out of the E.U.

How good an ally can Turkey be, with Islam in the ascendant and Kemalism under constant siege, if the main purpose of NATO is now or soon will be to protect Western Europe and preserve the Western alliance from those who, within Europe, are either Muslims or collaborators with Muslims? It makes no sense for the members of NATO to commit themselves to treating an attack on Turkey as an attack on themselves, when the Cold War is over, and a re-islamizing Turkey makes friends with Iran and Syria. Do the other members of NATO think that the Turkish military would come to their aid if any Infidel nation-state in NATO were attacked, from within or without, by Muslim forces? But NATO members are already under attack by the Muslims in their midst, who now constitute a grave national security risk, one at least as great as that posed by domestic sympathizers with the Soviet Union during the Cold War. And they are under attack by Muslim forces, too, in Afghanistan.

Turkey is part of the very Camp of Islam that is the most dangerous threat to the West today, and to what is the Western military alliance, NATO. It makes no sense to keep this Turkey in NATO. It is no longer the Turkey that once was a fit member of NATO under different circumstances, with a different enemy.

It is especially maddening that Turkey, but not Israel, is a member of NATO. Israel is not merely an unshakable part of the West, but the Western world is, as all educated people used to know, not conceivable without the inheritance from Israel as from Greece and Rome. And now that Israel was re-established, after nearly 2000 years, in the ancient Jewish homeland, its disappearance would whet Arab and Muslim appetites, and would a deal a great blow — understood by so few — to the morale and to the continued existence of the advanced West, which is the world’s best hope for a semi-decent model of existence.

As long as Erdogan and his associates, and those who effectively support them — including Fethulen Gulen, spreading Islam through his “educational” efforts around the globe from the safety of suburban Virginia — are intent on removing the constraints on Islam that Ataturk (intent on saving Turkey from Islam and the effects of Islam) so carefully and systematically placed on it, there is no point in thinking of Turkey as more than part, a non-Arab part, a partly-secularised part, but still a part, of the Camp of Islam. It should be treated most warily.

What do we really think of censorship, eh.

HAHAHA pull the other one!

The EU is all about the Franco-German Empire leading to a superstate! If they happen to throw the odd bone to gays that’s by-the-by. Thank god for the President of the Czeck Republic sticking one digit to the Krauts and Froggies.

“A police crackdown on trans people is happening now in Turkey with police fining trans people £35 every time they are seen out in their chosen gender. Six trans people are known to have been murdered in Turkey this year.

They are:

Ebru Soykan
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Cause of Death: Stabbed to death.
Ebru was 28 years old.

Unidentified Transgender person
Location: Bursa, Turkey
Cause of Death: Decapitated she had her head and sexual organs had been chopped off and tossed in a dumpster.

Melek K.
Location: Ankara, Turkey
Cause of Death: Was found murdered in her home.
Melek was 25 years old.

Hadise
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Cause of Death: Stabbed

Dilek Ince
Location: Ankara, Turkey
Cause of Death: Shot in the back of the head with a 12gauge, shotgun.

Unidentified transsexual
Location: Gebze, Turkey
Cause of Death: an unidentified transsexual was shot dead with two bullets through the chest at a roadside in Gebze.

We should be saying no to a brutal bigoted society like this entering the EU.

Comment by Abi1975 — October 9, 2009 @ 16:47″

You said:

“For example, many child-porn internet rules in the US have been used to shut down legal gay sites.”

Could you be a wee bit more specific, lad?

Which child-porn internet rules ?

Which legal gay sites were shut down?

How do you expect us to take anything you say seriously when you make stupid and unfounded generalisations like this?

Do you think we don’t recognize an insult to our intelligence when we see one, you sh*t-disturber?

Oh, and if your purpose here is anywhere as noble as to help us grow as human being by bringing controversy onto the threads of PinkNews, then please show us your credentials, Dr. Jalex of Snake Oil Retailers.

I have checked out the website that you let slip in your post 28: thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com

It appears to me that we have just stumbled upon a big piece of the puzzle that is Sugar Plum Fairy, eh emcee?

Eureka! An ex-gay, homophobic, schizophrenic, alcoholic, cyberspace shapeshifter who has a direct link to PinkNews from his Home Base at thinkcontroversial dot wordpress dot com.

Critical thinking is one thing, my lad, that we can teach you, and you know it.

You have never thought critically in your life; you just enjoy tormenting the LGBT commubity by cutting and pasting, eh sweetie.

Blow…it…out…your…ear!

Comment by Jalex — October 12, 2009 @ 15:46

Prejudice means to prejudge and I do not prejudge Muslims since I have been around them up close and personal and they are a direct threat to every person’s freedom who are not Muslim.
Jalex you sound like a terrorist lover. These towel headed Muslims hate anyone who is not a Muslim and they just as soon as chop your head off as anyone else. These bastards are the same ones that flew airplanes into the Twin Towers as the Muslims aim is to kill all “infidels” and take over the world. If you would take your head out of your a-s and keep up with the times you would already know this, unless of course you are just another crazy Muslim yourself. Mohammed the Madman molested little girls and abused women. He was no saint, but a devil. He is the Great Satan that the Muslims are always spouting off about. By defending these A-holes you are defending terrorism and if you live in America Homeland Security will put you on their sh-t list I guarantee you as they watch people like you and if they suspect you are supporting terrorism they follow you around like flies to sh-t as I once worked for Homeland Security and have also been in law enforcement most of my life, still working part time in the government and I would not be surprised now were you already on their sh-t list as a potential terrorist. All Muslims in this country are scrutinized on a daily bases. Their phone messages are recorded both coming in and going out. The post office lists mail coming into them and going out. Every move they make is watched. Anyone showing support or friendliness toward them is also watched and this is how the authorities are able to fret out terrorist attacks before they happen so easily. If you are one of them or fit into this category you are already being watched. The over all plan is to eventually round up every Muslim and their supporters or friends and placed in internment camps throughout the USA where they can be no threat to anyone. Its called Operation Clean Sweep. The best thing you can do now is to close your trap and quietly fade away and never post anything on the internet in favor of Muslims as it can get you in trouble because the government pays people to watch the internet and sites like this. PS: I have been warned of your many aliases such as Monkeychops amongst others as your MO is the same on every post, so using a different name each time will not help you as your IP can be traced back to you and hiding your IP will do no good as the government is far ahead of that scheme.

You said:

“If you wish to engage in debates/discussion, calling people racial slurs and insulting their beliefs is not the way to go.”

But it’s perfectly OK for you to call someone “ignorant” though, isn’t it?

Are you off your medications again, MC, or been drinking heavily? Must be so much fun sitting on a cloud with access to the knowledge in everyone’s minds so that you can make your stupid and sweeping generalisations.

Why don’t you talk to us about Climate Change and killer bees and H1N1 while your pontificating about the rules of debate, you transparent bunch of face masks.

Who do you think you’re foolin’?

Been to controversy school again, I see.

You said:

“In many regions, laws of this kind are quite vague and vulnerable to subjective outcomes.”

What do you really know about the laws in many regions, emcee?

Just as with all the Eastern European countries.

I think the EU is a great benefit to those countries unfamiliar to democracy and human rights.

Hence Britain should leave the EU and let them get on with helping the continent grow up. Free trade yes, political/social/military/industrial union no!

My two cents.