Comments on: Study finds no difference between children raised by gay or straight adoptive parents

By: Pissed Atheist

Pissed Atheist — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:05:12 +0000

Some of you people are just sick, two men sticking their you know what, in you know where. In the picture those two men raising that little girl, what in the he11 are they doing to her??? This is a sick dang country we live in to allow this pervertion, you all know its true.

By: Alex, Brisbane, Australia

Alex, Brisbane, Australia — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:45:20 +0000

‘Being gay is what you have inside you; it can’t rub off onto you and you can’t pick it up’.
Barry, you’ve just made my day.

By: Jean-Paul Bentham

Jean-Paul Bentham — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:27:07 +0000

barry:

OK, OK, I’m crying….(this is where you say: Cry if you want to!)

A beautiful comments and congratulations with lotsa bear hugs.

flapjack:

“No Accredited Research Tolerated Here”?

It’s got a certain…. je ne sais quoi….creative genius perhaps!

By: barry

barry — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:57:09 +0000

My parner and I introduced his young son into our family unit when he was nine. We’d been together just four years and so it was somewhat of a gamble, but in this case, it had to be done. I loved his father for better for worse, etc. We’d recently moved into a village and i particularly, was concerned about wagging tongues and adverse comments and reactions. The truth couldn’t have been further away – the villagers were fantastic!
When he was eighteen, the boy left school and went to university, then left us and did another year’s training in his profession.
He married two years ago and six months ago, his gorgeous wife gave birth to a fabulous baby who was baptised last week.
We are proud to have brought him up; he’s into – and excells at sports – he’s tall, handsome and personable. He has a thorough respect for all human beings whatever their clour, creed, sexuality etc and we know that his child will turn out to be just the same. Being gay is what you have inside you; it can’t rub off onto you and you can’t pick it up.
We defy anyone to show us a better-rounded young family man.
So there is no difference – it’s the quality of life, the love and the implicit trust that are the ingredients for bringing up a child, and i would suggest, these qualities have very little to do with either gender

By: George

George — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:49:44 +0000

Whilst the kids in this recent study may not be adults yet, there are lots of grown-up children with gay parents (such as that fine upstanding young women who gave the fantastic speech about gay marriage at her dads’ marriage in California which had the video linked to on this site).

I’ve heard many grown-up children speak very fondly of their gay mum or dad (or both), I’ve not yet heard them speak badly of them.

I think its safe to say that these grown-up children have more knowledge and expertise on whether or not they are mentally, physically & emotionally fully-rounded people, than any academic or any religious authority in the world.

By: Will

Will — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:38:41 +0000

Ah, yes, sorry. I see what you mean. A badly worded statement on my behalf…. I meant to say that 10% of the population are gay and they, for the most, part come from straight couples.

Actually, what I actually said looks rather stupid now! Sorry Rose.

By: Brenton

Brenton — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:09:48 +0000

Ofcourse, why would there be any difference? Lets face it homosexual long term relationships are very stable. I know, my partner and I have together for over 25 years, but we have never got past the Persian cats as yet!

By: flapjack

flapjack — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:07:24 +0000

Thanks Will – and just by way of correction I think your original wording which Rose was trying to take issue with wasn’t the percentage of kids that ARE gay which may or may not be 10% but your contention that “statistically 10% of gay children come from straight couples”.
Does that mean that us gay people are doing 90% of the breeding round here or was it a typo? Be honest
I think we can say with some certainty that straight people are producing close to 100% of the kids (whether those kids are gay OR straight), not counting closet cases in dysfunctional straight relationships, artificial insemination or surrogate mothers! I think that’s what Rose was driving at. I’m guessing you missed a zero back there! Adoption is a seperate point…

By: Will

Will — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:50:31 +0000

I like yours better, Flapjack!

And Rose, I tend to agree with you. The problem is no real data in this area, the religious right tend to bander figures like 2% because it suits their agenda, and the Alfred Kinsey study (which was flawed in its own way) suggests 10%. I doubt either of these studies take into account the amount of people who are closet cases who will never reveal their sexuality or sexual preferences…. a visit to a park at night will show how many “happily married with kids” closet cases there are out there looking for sex with men incognito.

By: flapjack

flapjack — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:04:15 +0000

How about “No Accredited Research Tolerated Here”?

By: Rose

Rose — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:55:33 +0000

“10% of gay children come from straight couples.”

I don’t buy those figures. It’s got to be higher. Just on anecdotal evidence, most coming out stories I’ve ever heard involve a mother and father reacting in some way.

And besides, Nature not nurture. It really doesn’t matter what the family background is. If you’re born gay, you are gay, even if your mother and father are a pair of Methodists.

By: Will

Will — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:37:42 +0000

Iris, I’ll try with another one….

Nutters Attacking Really Tasteful Homo’s?

By: John Rendle

John Rendle — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:06:34 +0000

Checked out NARTH as you mentioned Iris (12) and yes it does make your skin crawl. Hard to believe people like this exist in 2009, but you lucky people, you can attend their conference in West Palm Beach in November..lol

The medical professionals involved should have their medical registrations removed. I can only imagine the sort of harm these people do.

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:54:41 +0000

Adoptive parents are comparable but other studies show that looking at parents in general that gay parents have the edge over straight parents when it comes to good parenting. That’s because there are more straight parents who fall into parenthood accidentally when they aren’t ready for it, whereas gay parents more often end up as parents because they really want it.

By: Iris

Iris — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:37:00 +0000

*laughing* Yes, that’ll do very nicely, Will! Very accurate indeed!

Rose, replace the ‘XX’ with ‘tt’ and paste this into your browser:

hXXp://www.narth.com/

Be warned – it’ll make your skin crawl. Nasty, nasty people, clothing bigotry in ‘science’.

By: Will

Will — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:16:37 +0000

Opps... lets try again.... Not All Really There Head-wise

By: Will

Will — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:15:22 +0000

“Now tell the Church of Scotland who have an issue with gay adoption, the Catholic Church generally”

Catholic Hierarchy unfortunately tend to be selective when it comes to science, Rose. Their track record with Galileo an Darwin speak volumes…. they’re the slowest kid in the class, so to speak.

And Kiki, statistically 10% of gay children come from straight couples, so is that what you’re looking for, sweetheart?

And Iris, can’t remember what I gave last time, but I have another suggestion:

Not All Really There H

Will that do?

By: Iris

Iris — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:46:18 +0000

What was that funny explanation someone (Adrian? Will?)gave for NARTH’s acronym?

By: Rose

Rose — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:27:45 +0000

who the flip are NARTH? Sounds like something from the Dark Side!

By: Tigra 07

Tigra 07 — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:36:50 +0000

Actually NARTH has already claimed they fudged the numbers to make gay adoptions seem normal
Theyre also now claiming rape IS about sex and not power
I guess they would know since most of those dress wearing homophobes will have no doubt raped kids in their care in the 80s