Being a Gay Christian (My Human Right To Be Christian) I agree with this LGBT groups religious aspirations. There is a market for this programme of coversations with the faithful.
I agree with both Rose and Brian Burton (1 & 2, above) but I have a slightly diferent take on Rose’s comment: I think it’s sad that so many gay people feel estranged from God because of what they perceive, often eroneously, the Church to be teaching.
I think that the main stream Churches have become linked in many gay peoples’ minds with the strident, strange and ill-educated views of the fundamentalist, Biblical-literalist minority. As a gay Christian who has lived in many different Church of England parishes I can honestly say that I have only ever experienced anti-gay sentiment in only one of them and that was in a parish which had been taken over by Biblical-literalists and practiced such weird beliefs as the Toronto Blessing and the exorcism of sins.
Strange, isn’t it, how you have to bend over backwards and spend vast sums of money in order to square gay equality with the faith-based community, whereas the reality-based community just gets on and accepts it anyway?
I want to know why so many in the church spend their time rejecting gay people, even the religious gay people.
Surely with their dwindling numbers they should welcome them in
The Minister in my Church (United Reformed Church) is married with four Children. He is Gay friandly, he blessed me and my Partner’s UNION prior to our Civil Partnership ceremony in July 2005. There are hundreds more like my Minister and many more putting their head above the parapit like the Rev. Steve smith on the Bishop Gene Robinson thread.
John M.J.
What luck to have lived in so many different Church of England Parishers. Being the son of a Durham coal-miner, I was confirmed in Durham Cathedral when a fresh-faced young boy in 1954. I’m from a large family and I am the only believer in it. It was’nt till later when I realised I could go to prison for having same sex relations… Lord Montague Micheal Pit-Rivers and Peter Wildblood came to greif because of their sexuality. When all three ended up in Wormwood Scrubs, it suddenly hit me. I must admit, I enjoyed breaking the same law the ‘three’ were jailed for time and time again. Since being Confirmed in the early days, I have always remained faithful to Christ and have never denied Him. The last time my Partner and I visited Durham to look over the Beamish Musium, I had to visit the Cathedral. I was told they do not practice Comfirmations there anymore and I found that sad. I saw the exact spot where I knelt in front of the late Bishop Micheal Ramsey in 1954. There was quite a few adult men in those days wanting to pull my pants down! Just the odd one caught me at the right moment! During my Military service in the 1960s, I visited an Italian RC Cathedral in Bengazi Libia, one Christmas eve. It was quite a close Spiritual experiance in thet place, at that moment. I did not find God John, God had already found me.
A Gay man in a christian church is like having an Egyptian Pharoah in a synagogue. They just don’t mix. It’s also like going to a sexless S and M club, you poor poor masochrists.
Al,
Have you been to a sexless S&M Club? When I was active on the S&M scene, I never visited one. There is nothing ‘Poor’ about masochrists. Haven’t you preformed the ‘Masochisum Tango?’
By the way Al…What Planet d’you hail from?
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Being a Gay Christian (My Human Right To Be Christian) I agree with this LGBT groups religious aspirations. There is a market for this programme of coversations with the faithful.
I hope so. I think it’s sad that gays feel estranged from the church.
I agree with both Rose and Brian Burton (1 & 2, above) but I have a slightly diferent take on Rose’s comment: I think it’s sad that so many gay people feel estranged from God because of what they perceive, often eroneously, the Church to be teaching.
I think that the main stream Churches have become linked in many gay peoples’ minds with the strident, strange and ill-educated views of the fundamentalist, Biblical-literalist minority. As a gay Christian who has lived in many different Church of England parishes I can honestly say that I have only ever experienced anti-gay sentiment in only one of them and that was in a parish which had been taken over by Biblical-literalists and practiced such weird beliefs as the Toronto Blessing and the exorcism of sins.
Strange, isn’t it, how you have to bend over backwards and spend vast sums of money in order to square gay equality with the faith-based community, whereas the reality-based community just gets on and accepts it anyway?
I want to know why so many in the church spend their time rejecting gay people, even the religious gay people.
Surely with their dwindling numbers they should welcome them in
The Minister in my Church (United Reformed Church) is married with four Children. He is Gay friandly, he blessed me and my Partner’s UNION prior to our Civil Partnership ceremony in July 2005. There are hundreds more like my Minister and many more putting their head above the parapit like the Rev. Steve smith on the Bishop Gene Robinson thread.
John M.J.
What luck to have lived in so many different Church of England Parishers. Being the son of a Durham coal-miner, I was confirmed in Durham Cathedral when a fresh-faced young boy in 1954. I’m from a large family and I am the only believer in it. It was’nt till later when I realised I could go to prison for having same sex relations… Lord Montague Micheal Pit-Rivers and Peter Wildblood came to greif because of their sexuality. When all three ended up in Wormwood Scrubs, it suddenly hit me. I must admit, I enjoyed breaking the same law the ‘three’ were jailed for time and time again. Since being Confirmed in the early days, I have always remained faithful to Christ and have never denied Him. The last time my Partner and I visited Durham to look over the Beamish Musium, I had to visit the Cathedral. I was told they do not practice Comfirmations there anymore and I found that sad. I saw the exact spot where I knelt in front of the late Bishop Micheal Ramsey in 1954. There was quite a few adult men in those days wanting to pull my pants down! Just the odd one caught me at the right moment! During my Military service in the 1960s, I visited an Italian RC Cathedral in Bengazi Libia, one Christmas eve. It was quite a close Spiritual experiance in thet place, at that moment. I did not find God John, God had already found me.
A Gay man in a christian church is like having an Egyptian Pharoah in a synagogue. They just don’t mix. It’s also like going to a sexless S and M club, you poor poor masochrists.
Al,
Have you been to a sexless S&M Club? When I was active on the S&M scene, I never visited one. There is nothing ‘Poor’ about masochrists. Haven’t you preformed the ‘Masochisum Tango?’
By the way Al…What Planet d’you hail from?