That’ll be a nice little bonus for all the directors. They can all go for shagging holidays in Sitges to celebrate.
Ineffective cliquey scumbags.
My God, this is frankly insane! THT should not be allowed within spitting distance of any 10-18 year old. This is incredibly serious. If they have it their way THT would have all youngsters getting initiated into gay sex via Hardcell and given free passes to to Fit Ladz and Chariots! Enough is enough! There is enough dissent espoused on Pink News’s forums these last few days to get a pressure group of some kind formed to protest at this abuse; not just an abuse of public funds but full-on child abuse! If we as a community care enough about what is going on right under our noses under the guise of HIV prevention then we must not let this rest and demand change in the whole approach to sexual health to prevent the next generation of gay men – today’s 10-18 year olds – being effectively groomed for HIV infection and lined-up for a life time on Aids meds, failing which the national press must be informed what is going on. This is a utterly scandalous!
Bravo to the National Lottery for funding such a vital initiative!
Sounds like an innovative and sensible scheme to me. Good to see more opportunity for young people to talk about their sexual health with someone else who is knowledgeable, and to get involved in training and helping their peers.
davevauxhall and BSE, go see THT’s “hardcell” website and THEN decide if you think THT should be allowed to school/educate/counsel youngsters! As you look through the pages try hard to find any warnings to readers against the ordeal of becoming infected with HIV or any warnings about the ordeal of living with HIV infection for the rest of their lives.
Click here to view THT’s Hardcell website!
I am in agreement with Rob. No matter which angle I interpret this story from I am left with an uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach. The very thought of impressionable children being “counseled” by THT workers spewing politically correct rhetoric horrifies me and has decidedly Orwellian undertones. THT can’t get STI/HIV prevention right as it is without being let loose on kids. How do we stop this madness?
Well done THT working with young people to devise a peer based project seems very sensible.
This is spooky! On 16th August I posted this on another thread discussing the failure of hiv preventionists:
“From Terence Higgins Trust’s own web site you can see that it is indeed hard at work influencing sex education for young people. Its Young Leaders Project, for example, helps “create innovative education projects about relationships, sex and sexual health”, and the charity also offers free sexual health training at its Kings Cross offices to professionals working with young people. tht is even organizing non-sexual projects aimed at youngsters such as “offering young people from the lgbt community a chance to take part in an exciting new project in which they will ‘re-write’ modern British history to include the role of the lgbt movement” (announced on its web site in July), and many others.
Personally I find the tht’s targeting of young people to be a cause for extreme alarm, the chief concern being that these kids will no doubt be indoctrinated with the same crazy politically correct ideology that has already as this article astutely points out sleepwalked thousands of gays into hiv infection and reliant on the tht’s support services and Pharma’s medications which damage the body’s natural defenses.
A few weeks back the tht rallied behind the Government’s plan to make sex and relationships education a statutory part of the National Curriculum by 2011. No doubt even now it is petitioning for tips on how to “pull out like porn stars” (to quote one of its infamous hiv campaigns), a guided tour of its http://www.hardcell.org.uk web site and more besides to be included in the new sex education curriculum!
How dare the tht position itself as sex educators to youngsters with their appalling track record in this field! What qualifies these buffoons to decide what is the best information for these young and vulnerable minds to absorb? HEY, THT, LEAVE OUR KIDS ALONE!!!”
Tht has had almost 30 years to get hiv/std prevention right but has constantly failed. Giving its “councellors” access to children, therefore, is akin to giving foxes access to the chicken coop and is an example of incompetant policy making that should be vigorously fought.
I don’t understand the about hardcell it aimed at very specific hard to reach high risk group IMO exactly what the THT should be doing. Most of us are at home with our partners watching Eastenders like heterosexuals having mundane sex lives, but not all of us.
I was diagnosed when I was 21, now 24 years ago I will do everything in my power to prevent anyone else ever becoming infected. But I also believe gay sex is not something to be discouraged as long as high risk activity is avoided.
There should be discussion about how to do HIV prevention work, but we know sex sells and sexy safer sex info may get through and I’m sure it is tested on focus groups of the intended audience before release.
Now I’m old monogamous and rarely do the scene but I’m not going to criticise guys for having fun, just rubber up, take care and ignore the delusional nutter and their imaginary friends.
Sorry I’m new to this forum, I didn’t check as I typed my apologies:
I don’t understand the rants about hardcell it aimed at very specific hard to reach high risk group IMO exactly what the THT should be doing. Most of us are at home with our partners watching Eastenders like heterosexuals having mundane sex lives, but not all of us.
Now I’m old monogamous and rarely do the scene but I’m not going to criticise guys for having fun, just rubber up, take care and ignore the delusional nutters and their imaginary friends.
Sorry for posting twice. J.x
I think this is an excellent and much-needed initiative. I have read all the posts before me and am alarmed at the amount of negative response to what I see as an essential service. This age group of young people is the very age group which needs good, sound advice on sexual health issues. This is not about ‘promoting a homosexual lifestyle’ – far from it, it is about teaching young people to take care of themselves in whatever kind of relationship they decide to engage. Let’s face it, many parents no longer teach their children any form of sex education – they leave it to the youngsters themselves to find out, very often in the wrong ways. HIV can also be contracted by heterosexuals from other heterosexuals – people nowadays are not always honest about ‘where they have been before’ so it is best to be safe! If young people can learn about the dangers of unsafe sex at an early age they are learning in a good way how to protect themselves and their potential future partners. As for the ‘Hard cell’ website – what has this got to do with the issue under discussion? It doesn’t come into it. Come on people – THT is to be commended for such a sensible and much-needed inititative. I am pleased that they have secured this funding to enable them to set this service up properly and to reach out to young people – someone needs to do so! Good luck with the project!
There are some real loons on this site who are so sex phobic that they think if you acknowledge that people have sex you are ‘grooming people for hiv infection’. It’s barking mad insane. Ive never seen where THT has encouraged people to go to Fitlads or Sitges.
I understand peoples passions but it feels like its become and obsession for some getting in the way of them focussing on their own lives.
Hi Bex, if 10-12 year olds really do need “good, sound advice on sexual health issues”, then tell me what qualifies the THT to dispense it in terms of their appalling track record in STI and HIV prevention? Further, these are not so much sexual issues so much as psychologically-related issues that we are dealing with where young children are concerned. What qualifications to these clipboard concellors hold in this respect? Do the parents of these kids get a say in things, or will these sessions be held in private allowing these kids to be indoctrinated with PC dogma along that instills into them the right to exercise their freedom to have sex however they like with how many people they like at age 10, condoms an optional extra? Why is THT seeking to sexualise kids still in junior school? It’s remit is to prevent HIV (FAILED!) and provide services for poz people (MONOPOLY!). Now it is targeting kids who have enough difficulty learning how to count to ten and spelling their own name without having to be subjected to PC sexual programming. The Daily Mail will lap this up! I note there are a lot of similar comments on this board praising the THT and defending Hardcell mostly by people that have not posted before, and it smacks like a pre-planned, thinly-veiled attempt to dilute the outrage THT knew this outrageous news would elicit.
Talk about paranoia! So everyone who disagrees with you is the same person… WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Who made you the morality police anyway? Its good to see that you can channel the spirit of Mary Whithouse so long after her death!
Although the news article is about counselling services, I would like to mention a demonstration I attended of one of the sexual health workshops THT uses with young people. It was excellent. Although it covered a number of areas, the workshop focussed on what people thought they might get out of sex, and then looked at how many of those things can be gotten from friends as well. The workshop encouraged people not to feel pressured into sex by thinking enveryone else was having it. The entire drift was towards not having sex, but without preachy wagging fingers and hysterical doom-laden ‘you’re gonna die if you shag’. So quite the opposite of what some people and the Daily Mail would have you beleive.
The THT staff who ran it were very well qualified as demonstrated by their knowledge and sensitivity. Groups of people can spot those with an agenda at 100 paces.
I was glad to see that the workshop did not sexualise young people but promoted the right of everyone to exercise their freedom to decline or defer having sex. The THT’s remit is to promote the best sex with the least harm. Often the best sex will be no sex, and the workshop made clear why this might be the case.
People suspect others of what they themselves are liable to do. I have posted here before and do so again with my real name.
Thankfully people are starting to say what we all know. Rob, if you want to continue making rediculous postings, and accusing THT of full-on child abuse, please use your real name. Perhaps then people can put your dumb ass article into context.
PS Grrr is my real name – I hate my parents
I smell a big stinking RAT in this thread!
As regulars will know, I have been following PinkNews for a very long time.
In the past couple of weeks there have been several articles about the appalling disinformation that several of the HIV/AIDS educators have been including and are continuing to include in their programmes and the agreement of PinkNews readers that this must stop has been unanimous except for the rants of some nutter religionist.
But now this week there comes the news of THT being awarded a massive figure for its programmes, and all of a sudden we have a whole host of complete strangers appearing at PinkNews stating that they applaud THT’s work! These people have not posted on PinkNews before? Where have they come from?
Have you all been drafted in by THT to post messages here?
Or are you all just one and the same THT-supporting person posting under different names?
I found this site this week and checked back to see if my reply was commented on. I have better things to do than comment on every article but in my 25th year living with HIV I do feel I can contribute on this subject and FYI I have no contact with the THT except my Gift Aided Standing Order donation.
Obviously THT will do and say anything to get their hands on those poor kids, Eddy, and fill their impressionable young minds with their dangerous propaganda. Don’t worry, the rest of us aren’t stupid, just somewhat aghast that THT could be so openly transparent and desperate.
It would be worth printing out these recent threads together with the comments as they will all provide good evidence for the day they and their obedient GMFA chums are finally held to account. And that day cannot come a moment too soon.