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Downing St responds to petition against deportation of gays

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  1. Gay people from Iraq should be given automatic residency if they apply.

    Iraq used to be pretty safe for LGBT people under Saddam. Thanks to the illegal invasion by Britain gay people are being murdered in their hundreds because of their sexuality. The UK owes it to them to grant them full and immediate residenncy. If the UK thinks that this may be too difficult because of numbers then I say ‘tough’ – if you invade a country illegally then you need to deal with the consequences.

  2. Benji Starr 26 Aug 2009, 4:59pm

    The Government has responded to the petition demanding that they stop deporting LGBT people to countries where they will be at risk of torture/imprisonment/murder and as usual they deny that LGBT people are deported back to places if they are at risk. Why are we surprised?

    Apparently they have forgotten about Mehdi Kazemi, who many activists worked diligently and passionately to support in his asylum attempt after the government tried return him to Iran where he is wanted for sodomy after his boyfriend gave up his name during torture before being executed for the crime of being gay. And thanks to the pressure piled on them by asylum campaigners, LGBT groups and some members of Parliament (two names that spring to mind are Simon Hughes and John Leech of the Lib Dems, not to mention Peter Tatchell’s ever spirited support).

    It seems they have also forgotten Prossy Kakooza, the Ugandan woman who was initially denied asylum. She had been raped and tortured by the police after her family discovered her in bed with her partner and turned her over to the authorities. She was bailed by her family to have her released so that they could murder her to prevent anyone discovering their “shame”. The Home Office told her that she would be safe if she was returned to a different part of Uganda.

    Again, the same organisations and groups of campaigners worked and protested until she was allowed to stay because everyone recognised that this was the right thing to do.

    We need to keep pressure on the Government about their shockingly flippant attitude to the safety and human rights of LGBT asylum seekers. I wonder would Phil Woolas think it was fair if he was told he could return to a country where he and his wife were at risk of being tortured, assaulted or even executed if they ever kissed, held hands, or even lived together because they would be safe if they were “discreet”. If straight people were told they couldn’t express their love for one another, it would be considered an unacceptable breech of the Human Right to a Private Life, so why does our government allow and encourage that breech when dealing with LGBT people?

    We need to stand up against this bigotry coming from an institution which is looked to to protect and shelter those fleeing bigotry and persecution in other countries, and we must tell them that we do not agree with their policy.

  3. Mihangel apYrs 26 Aug 2009, 6:33pm

    and yet there’s a blanket assumption that foreign prostitutes have been trafficked and therefore have a right of abode.

    Some are, soe won’t have been, but it is a guarantee

  4. the other one 26 Aug 2009, 7:44pm

    why should we be suprised.

    There’s two good reasons the goverment will continue doing this:

    1. it has targets to reach for deportations and (as the Imagration Service often say off the record) they go for ‘soft targets.

    2. the present lot have a BIG problem with homosexuality.

  5. And the government reps wonder why they were heckled at London Pride. *rolls eyes*

  6. My response: “Can we have a bigger coach please?”

    Most of this is bullsh*t by people trying any old ruse to get in here. And more to the point, where did these people come from? They almost certainly didn’t fly in, which means they went through other countries to get here, so send them back from whence they came and let them take the responsibility instead of waving them on through to UK.

    It’s about time we started dumping immigrants back on other European countries, like they have been doing to us for so long.

  7. RobN – why let others deal with victims of homophobia? surely if we can help we should?
    it is terrible that many people can be sent back without any fuss to get murdered in their own country by their own country

  8. I work for a local authority who deal regularly with the Home Office and can assure you that they are still not fit for purpose. We get regular updates for how our young people’s cases are progressing and some still do not have an initial decision on their asylum application 2 years PLUS after they have arrived. We even have one young person that, according to their records, was returned they day after he arrived even though we still have him in our care and are able to claim funding for his care.

    They also need to accept that certainly with our cases, young peopel are worried about coming out in the UK so it is impossible to comprehned how hard it would be for a young person, on their own in a new country with NO support network, from a country where telling the authorities that they are gay would mean certain imprisonment or even death, is going to be able to admit to being LGBT until they feel safe and by then it is too late to change their reason for claiming asylum.

    Using my ‘gaydar’ I know we have young gay men from muslim countries that we are looking after – I just hope that either they get ILR/Refugee status or they realise whats going on if they are going to be unsuccessful and are able to run and hide rather than being sent back to these murderous regimes.

  9. Oh and RobN – until you work with young unaccompanied asylum seeking children and know your facts – and hear some of the horror stories (young lad being taken from his family to be used as a child soldier, being made drug dependant, regularly raped by older men, contracting HIV/AIDS, battling to get to the UK on his own and finally laying in a hospital bed at 18 telling his case worker that he WANTED to die because of all of the things he had seen, done and had done to him!) And through all of that, all the time we had him in our care he was a fun loving, polite, smiley lad – even now I find it upsetting to think of him on his last visit to our office

  10. Paul: Sad, unfortunate etc etc. but NOT. MY. PROBLEM.

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