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California campaigners will wait until 2012 to fight gay marriage ban

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  1. They’re probably foolish to wait. If they can get Archbishop Desmond Tutu to speak out in favour of gay marriage equality they will have it in the bag.

  2. Mihangel apYrs 13 Aug 2009, 12:43pm

    in the next three/four years, how many will die, unmarried, un-partnered, leaving their partners to face all the legal issues and challenges?

  3. i woulda struck while the anger was hot, by the time 2012 comes around no gay marriage may have become the norm again, alowing the antis to us the usual status quo arguements. at least now theres still palable anger and a wish to work to change the law at the moment

  4. Stuart Neyton 13 Aug 2009, 1:30pm

    I actually think it’s probably wise to wait a couple of years. In that time proponents of gay marriage will have more time to raise funds in order to fight a strong campaign in 2012.

    I do have two concerns though. The first, already mentioned, is the fate of same-sex couples not yet married but who may not live until then. The second is the fact that it would be at the same time as the presidential election. Obama brought out the young vote, which overwhelmingly voted against proposition 8. If Obama is unpopular by that time then voter turnout among liberals may be lower, which will hurt the campaign for marriage equality.

    I know the vote was close last year but I think it may well fail again if put straight back to the voters.

  5. Equality California (EQCA) was responsible for the totally disastrous campaign last year. The article is unbalanced and therefore misleading because it gives more space to the views of EQCA than the many groups which are asking for (and in some cases voted for) a 2010 ballot.

  6. Pumpkin Pie 13 Aug 2009, 3:00pm

    How utterly shameful that the American government is continuing to insist that civil rights should be voted on. What on earth was going through the minds of those cowardly judges? The whole thing’s a complete travesty. I’d demand that Obama speak out against such hogwash, but I can barely finish that sentence without laughing.

  7. Brian Burton 13 Aug 2009, 4:14pm

    California dreaming?….Yup!..California still a-dremin Guys ‘n Gals!

  8. Robert, ex-pat Brit 13 Aug 2009, 5:46pm

    This is a dangerous strategy EQCA to delay which spells “failure”. In 2012, Obama may not be the president for a second term only to be replaced with a republican who will see to it that no marriage equality is legal in California or elsewhere and definitely NO repeal of the “Defense of Marriage Act” (DOMA). The time for pressure is now, day after day, holding elected officials collective feet to the fire, having ongoing dialog with minorities and religious cults, otherwise, they can kiss LGBT votes goodbye, votes that they currently take for granted and that deliver nothing.

    Dave, having Desmond Tutu speak out would be a delicious recipe to pit the more progressive Episcopalian branch of the Anglican cult against the Rowan Williams band of homophobic hypocrites and bigots, including himself. I hope we see it happen.

  9. Bishop Ioan 14 Aug 2009, 1:27am

    Pumpkin Pie, you are right on the money about people being allowed to vote on civil rights–no one should ever be able to do that. As for Obama, many LGBT have had it with Obama and his “fierce ugency of whenever”.

    I think Equality California should have struck whilst the iron was hot–waiting til 2012 will probably result in another loss for marriage equality. I am so glad I married in Canada instead of waiting for yahoos to finally decide that I really DO have the right to marry.

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