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Glasgay festival’s play Jesus, Queen of Heaven upsets Christians

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  1. Mmm; but God is also a Dove and an old man with a white beard as well as a guy in his thirties with long hair and sandals; he’s also bread and wine and everywhere at the same time……….as well as sitting in Heaven being praised by angels…….

  2. We all know Jesus was a gay man with a foot fetish.
    You just need to read the bible to work that one out.

  3. jonnielondon 7 Aug 2009, 1:20pm

    Those poor sky-fairy people! Now how does it feel to be ridiculed. It can works both ways.

  4. Brian Burton 7 Aug 2009, 1:22pm

    Mike,
    Whats the betting it’s a storm in a teacup? You are absolutley right, Jesus being depicted as anything but a Fundy image I guess
    The Trouble is, most people see God in Human termes–A man infact.
    Well, that ‘aint true, God is Spirit, plain and simple and who knows what form the Spirit of God is? Not even the Fundamentalists know that. They might pretend to, but they know Tiddy-squat about what shape God is. Being a sencable Gay Christian, I know?

  5. Brian, funny thing this anthopormorphisation of the Divine eh! (phew and its Friday afternnon for such a word; will have to go and lie down with a damp cloth;-) The Greeks and Romans did it and even the Egyptians albiet with stange animal heads (I for one would not like to meet Anubis on a dark night!) I suppose its easier than trying to depict spirit But I am stillnot sure on this bread and wine thing(!)

  6. boohoo waaaaahhhh the ickle christians feel insulted & oppressed. aww diddums (Firefox says i should have typed dumdums there, but oh well).

    how do you think WE’VE felt for the past 2000 odd years?

  7. Dave North 7 Aug 2009, 2:14pm

    So Jesus is actually Robert Powell, a refined white English type who watches cricket of a Sunday and has brunch on the lawn.

    Here was me thinking he came from the Middle East.

  8. Well I find the existence of groups like theirs insulting to my belifes, as I’m sure many people do. Does that mean that if we are consulted about the use of our taxes, we can ask that they get rid of those groups too? I do hope so! Many, is not quite all, of the Christians I know have absolutely no problem with people being LGBTQAIU. It’s a loud minority that give all the rest bad names.

  9. Brian Burton 7 Aug 2009, 3:01pm

    Mike,
    I’ll look up Anthopormorphisation in the dictionary that carries words as long as Anthopormorphisation in it. It reminds me of: Supercalafragalisticespialadocious.
    The Greeks and the Romans depicted their ‘Many Gods’ they worshiped at the time in sculpture and drawings. Greek warriors, all had Boy friends in ancient times and the Romans, most were Bi-sexual. A Gay Slave in Roman times was well favoured by their Masters-so I understand? Those Togas, they were sexy. One of our number from these Pink threads went for a holiday in Thialand a couple of weeks ago. I told him the Monks there, under their robes have a little Bell tied to their cock. When the monks meet up with each other after devotions and a bell underneath the robe rings. It means the one whose bell rings fancies the monk he’s talking to!

  10. Of course, they are wrong; there are plenty of tax-payers who will be delighted that funding is going towards this and people will also pay money for tickets.

  11. Dominick J. 7 Aug 2009, 3:05pm

    “Fundamentalist Christians have claimed that a play to be performed later this year as part of the Glasgay arts festival is insulting to their beliefs.”

    I say tough shit! They’re insulting to my Christian beliefs AND all human rights beliefs.

  12. @Brian – and don’t forget the Spartans who did the same and it was regarded as a privilege to have a gay relationship.

    To the gay haters – f**k off and go back to your self righteous God bothering and leave us alone.

  13. @Brian – oops I don’t mean with the bells – I was referring to the Greeks and Romans

  14. The “word of God” is offensive to my beliefs, but I’m sure plenty of tax payers money goes towards that.

  15. Brian Burton 7 Aug 2009, 4:14pm

    Rich,
    OOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHH!!! THE SPARTANS? They were all ‘Drop Dead Gorgous’ and went into Battle holding hands so I belive.
    What passion those Greeks and Spartans had and displayed. Today, the worst of having a Romance of any kind is that it leaves us feeling unromantic!

  16. Andromeda 7 Aug 2009, 5:53pm

    Calm down dears !. It’s only a play !
    anybody who takes this as a serious threat to organised religion needs a sanity check. Also the complainants have given this a million pounds worth of publicity.
    However as a trans-woman myself, Jesus (or perhaps jesua..what would be feminine name ?) a god who came down from heaven to save ALL mankind and embodies both gender concepts would be most agreeable.
    So The father,the Son, the Mother, the Daughter and the holy spirit as the holy Quinity would be more like it.

  17. The pope is very quiet these days. He’s very queenly too, the Queen of Castel Gandolfo, presumably, at the moment. And an evil old queen too.

  18. Glasgay! Tommy Winning, Queen of Heaven sounds more appropriate. Remember that old ****wit.

  19. Sounds like a load of unimaginative crap! A throw away effort.
    Nothing to get excited or angry about. Just plain solid gold 100 carat crap! :)

  20. Christina Engela 7 Aug 2009, 10:11pm

    “Fundamentalist Christians have claimed that a play to be performed later this year as part of the Glasgay arts festival is insulting to their beliefs.”

    That’s okay – I find their beliefs insulting to me. Boo hoo.

  21. Anything that insults Simon Calvert, Mike Judge and all the other christian institute cranks is fine by me.

    It’s a moral obligation to have them fuming and seething. If they think it’s fine to wave bible placards at people telling them they are going to hell – I can’t think of anything more insulting, to be honest – then they must expect people to turn it back on them. We too, can be insulted, and more than annoyed with their superstitious, poisonous nonsense, it’s time they realised it and got used to it.

    Don’t talk about taxpayers money – we have to pay for the Church of ENgland, pay for them to treat us as steerage class citizens. They can go to hell.

    Good work Glasgay.

  22. Vo Dong Cung 8 Aug 2009, 3:26am

    The Christian is tax payer to the church until threir last breath.

    “Fundamentalist Christians have claimed that a play to be performed later this year as part of the Glasgay arts festival is insulting to their beliefs.”

    They can display even preach what they believe, why we can’t not display what we don’t believe? Will they want to strip off our right to freedom of speech?

  23. Brian Burton 8 Aug 2009, 6:47am

    It all got started with Oscar Wilde’s ‘SALOME’ It was not even allowed to play on a Stage in the UK, and so they put it on in Paris. These things come and go like a strong wind blowing across a Plain. It soon passes as this Glawigan, silly season ‘Jesus Queen Of Heaven’ play will do also. I’m a Gay Christian and not a bit offended with ‘Glasgay’ There is nothing to be offended about.

  24. John M.J. 8 Aug 2009, 8:59am

    Good grief, this an exploration of what the Christ might be, what he might have meant. Speaking as a believing Gay Christian all I can say, all I want to say to all who critise this production, is “Grow up”.

    Honestly, I don’t see anything wrong with the idea that Chriat lived and died for EVERYBODY, nor do I see anything at all wrong with the concept of Universal forgiveness as embodied in this work.

    Granted, had Christians mounted a work like this about Mohammed then we would have had to face a much more unforgiving audience – indeed, an audience which would have advocated the destruction of the writer and the performers – but this is a send up of Christianity and so we can proceed with impunity and safe in the knowledge that there will be no repercussions.

    Thank God that we are allowed to revile Christian beliefs but forbidden from reviling Muslim belefs. Our Christian beliefs are so inadequate, so weak and meaningless, that, of course, we have to, we must, denigrate our faith and support other beliefs for we have achieved nothing and we are worthless and our entire civilisation is as naught compared with their’s. The sooner we realise that then the sooner we will be more adequate and the sooner we will validate the right of a man to rape a nine-year-old, the right of a man to marry four women, the right of man to kill infidels and earn his seventy-two virgins in paradise.

    No matter how much you think that Christianity is weird – well, the Chritianity that you think that you know because you were taught it by some fundamentalist idiots – Islam, and all the other religions, is, and are, even more weird than Christianity.

    Please don’t denigrate us Christians for our strange beliefs before looking closely at all the others. If you think that we are weird then just check out the others!

  25. Jean-Paul a.k.a. Bentham 8 Aug 2009, 2:18pm

    John M.J.:

    What a delghtful surprise to see you again.

    Here’s a bit of old news, but I like it:

    “Published Date: 07 May 2009

    The success of books and films like The Da Vinci Code and Angels and Demons should make the Catholic Church rethink the way it uses the media to present itself, the Vatican newspaper said yesterday.

    The newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, ran two editorials on last Monday’s premiere of Angels and Demons in Rome, ending an official institutional silence on the film.

    One of the editorials, headlined “The Secret of His Success,” said the Church should ask itself why such a “simplistic and partial” vision of the Church in Dan Brown’s works is so successful, even among Catholics.”

    in my opinion, what the RCC should be asking itself is how to put that old cow out to pasture, and how to bring back the healthy Spirit of Vatican II.

  26. This christian institute, whoever they are, does not have a monopoly on christianity and Jesus. Why do they think their view is the “correct” one?

  27. Brian Burton 8 Aug 2009, 5:16pm

    John M.J.
    I was shocked to find there are eighty five Sharia Law Courts in the UK. A Mail Journalist called the British Justice system on BBCTV Question Time ‘This Cardboard Justice System’ of ours. There is already voices (not quite in the wilderness) calling for Sharia Law to supersede our own. Sharia Law of course is Religiously based and no doubt suits the Muslim comunities. Imposed on the UK by hook or by crook will devistate 90% of our population I have no Doubt. Therefore, all branches of Chritianity including us Gay Christians and the Agnostics and the Atheists and anyone with an interest in keeping the status-quo and the Sharia Law from drowning us all. We should unite before it’s too late to turn the clock back. We all fiddle as Rome burns at present.

  28. Jean-Paul a.k.a. Bentham 8 Aug 2009, 6:47pm

    Brian:

    A-ha!! At last! Someone (you) is putting the dot on the ‘i’ and crossing the ‘t’.

    The presence of sharia law in the UK is a growing reality, and unlike christian fundies who like to harass us more or less harmlessly, fanatic muslims are more likely to shoot first, and ask questions later.

    85 Sharia Law courts in England in a disgrace, and it is just the beginning. I don’t mean to alArm anyone (I really don’t, just go back to sleep), but WAKE UP, SMARTEN UP, AND FOCUS ON OUR COMMON, RUTHLESS ENEMY.

    Nobody ever listen to me, so I’m glad you brought it up, Brian.

  29. Brian Burton 8 Aug 2009, 8:17pm

    Jean-Paul,
    Thank you, in the UK, the horse has bolted before the stable door is bolted!

  30. Jean-Paul a.k.a. Bentham 9 Aug 2009, 1:00am

    Brian:

    I don’t know how the greatest country in the history of western civilisation, bar none, has allowed sharia law to slither its way into society.

    Let them try that in Canada, and they will find out why we do after all love the Québecois. KA-BOOM; oops, did I do that???

  31. Brian Burton 9 Aug 2009, 1:01pm

    Jean-Paul,
    I’ll tell you why my Boy: Our Greedy Swine-heard of MPs, were too busy lining their pockets and hand-bags with a bottomless pit of Tax-Payers money in the form of their Expence accounts. Some MPs were claiming huge sums for morgages they did not posess, and the Criminals are still not brought to book yet, even though Scotland Yard is supposed to be investigating! So, Jean-Paul, while the MPs have been Robbing the country. The Extreamist Islamists have moved in!

  32. No surprise they are upset about the play, but they can’t go around trying to ban these plays & films (“The Last Temptation of Christ” anyone?) and on the other hand claim that they should have unbridled freedom of expression, no matter what they say. Once again, they’re a bunch of hypocrites.

    Oh, and why does everything & any decision that they don’t like have to be “an agenda” as far as they’re concerned? They must be obsessed with agendas in general, I wouldn’t like to be taking the minutes of their meetings, the agenda would be ridiculously long!

  33. i think we should know our limitations in terms of presentation our selves.. enough that we are gays….we must respect our God…..i do respect everyone opinion…what i want is, we must do something where our sexual orientation more useful and meaningful to our community….s that community well recognize us as fruitful people.. not a bad individual in our community…. what this group try to present i truly respect, but i wish they dont extend beyond that may cause damage to others specially t thier belief and norms….i am proud gay is enough for people respect as who i am… have fun

  34. Bishop Ioan 10 Aug 2009, 7:57am

    I would get upset but the Christians have been doing this and worse to us for almost 1700 years. Also, a religion that can’t take this in stride is not a religion worth adhering to.

  35. Sharia Law has no place here; we have English Common law going back topthe Saxons; we don’t want/need anything else! As for the MPs, yes, they won’t do anything for fear of being called racists and Jack Straw soon droped the Veil debate when it got a bit nasty. However, these women are masked and we don’t allow masks in this country! How come Italy managed to get rid of them and Turkey, an Islamic State, wont even allow headscarves in Public! We saw that terrorist suspect escape in a burka after the failed second attack on London! Ok Harriet Harman, there’s a good one for you and for once you would get a lot of support dear!!!!!

  36. Auntie Jack 10 Aug 2009, 12:15pm

    Clearly those who have been living for too long on Terra Homo are beginning to . smell the coffee and acclimatise themselves to planet Earth, cause and effect ruthlessly operate, without respect to bogus minority victim groups, such as the gays and Muslims?

    Geert Wilders was banned from coming to Britain a couple of months ago to show the film Fitna, an expose on Islam, to members of the House of Lords. Not only was Lord Ahmed ( who subsequently served a disgracefully shortened prison sentence for dangerous driving in which he killed a man) free to threaten, with impunity, the House with “veiled” Islamic violence, but the lovely Jacqui Smith was able to put a block on Geert Wilder’s entry into Britain.

    On the gay front, even though Lord Waddington’s freedom of speech clause 29JA of the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 has twice been democratically passed, the government has promised that, when it returns in the Autumn, to overturn, yet again, a twice democratically voted freedom of speech clause – probably with the Parliamentary Act, which enables it to ignore Parliament.

    Both Muslims and the Gays have almost absolute freedom to humiliate, offend, threaten, harass, intimidate and incite violence towards Christians; but the slightest dissent from Christians – or any one for that matter – towards their words and actions are greeted with howls of rage, temper tantrums and threats.

    Maybe, perhaps- but I am not holding my breath – it is dawning in the consciousness of the gays that the very section of society that they are presently determined to eradicate, is the only group that is capable of defending everyone’s rights, including theirs. The Christian individuals in our Island’s history (and I am not talking about the Institutional Church that has often been in the forefront of oppression and persecution), inspired and directed by the Bible, are the only ones who have brought justice and righteousness to this nation. They are the only group who can offer a rational defence and moral courage against Islam. The gays are sawing off the branch on which they are sitting.

    Stonewall, in demanding that anyone who doesn’t verbally endorse homosexuality will be liable to seven years in prison, will be opening the door for the Muslim Council of Britain to revisit the religious hatred bill, which they managed to bribe our government into passing in 2005. However, at the time, they failed to get an almost identical clause to the homophobic speech hatred clause attached to the religious hatred bill. If clause 61 of the Coroners and Justice Bill is forced through ( which will inevitably result with Christians, at the very least, going to prison for up to seven years) the Muslims, frantically waving their Equality and Human Rights cards, will also demand their right to suppress free speech.

    At that point, the gays will have signed their own death warrant.

    Allow me to remind what Churchill had to say about Islam in 1898:

    ‘How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world….
    Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.’

    Allow me in the name of freedom speech to adapt Winston Churchill’s speech:

    How dreadful are the curses which homosexuality lies on its votaries!
    Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful Darwinian fatalism. Disgusting and perverted habits, dishonesty, deceit, denial, deconstruction, disorder destabilisation and death exist wherever the followers of Stonewall rule or live. A degraded and
    strutting sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in in a misogynistic society
    dominated by homosexuals women become worthless – and are treated merely as
    carriers of embryos – must delay the final extinction of slavery, bondage
    and addiction until
    homosexuality has ceased to be a great power among men.””Individual homosexuals may show splendid qualities. Some become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die of Aids. But the influence of the homosexual ideology destroys the social fabric of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.

    Far from being moribund, homosexuality is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout western European civilisation, raising militants at every step.
    Nothing humanly stop it, except Islam.

  37. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 12:38pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss,
    You are a pile of dog-shit you want us to step into you Black heated Scumbag. Go piss up your kilt and play with the steam.

  38. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 12:41pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss,
    Shove It Scumbag up your receptive arse.

  39. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 12:45pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss,
    Welcome to my world, wont you come on in, welcome to my world, Boy I need a Gin!

  40. Auntie Jack 10 Aug 2009, 12:46pm

    Brian (37),very eloquently put; would you care to expand on these sentiments – maybe with some reasoned argument – wihtout temper tantrums, muck spreading or personal attacks.

  41. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 12:48pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss,
    Sorry Aunty Jack, would yo please repeat that all again?

  42. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 12:53pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss,
    Brian (37?) I hav’nt been 37 for some time Darling. Ask anybody here?

  43. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 1:42pm

    UpAuntieJacksAss’
    You Bumbling Idiot, You never fail to leave yourself wide open to Ridicule!

  44. Auntie Jack 10 Aug 2009, 4:39pm

    Two rednecks meet on a dusty country road. One of them is carrying a big bag labeled, “chickens.”

    “Chickens, eh?” says one guy. “Hey, if I guess how many chickens you got, will you give me one?”

    “Heck,” says the guy with the bag, “iffin you guess right, I’ll give you both of ‘em.”

    The other scratches his head and guesses, “Um… five?”

  45. Auntie Jack 10 Aug 2009, 4:43pm

    Very eloquently put; would you care to expand on these sentiments – maybe with some reasoned argument – wihtout temper tantrums, muck spreading or personal attacks.

    Now give me dem chickens or I’ll blow you…your head off.

  46. Auntie Jack 10 Aug 2009, 4:46pm

    Far from being moribund, christian fundamentalism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout western European civilisation, raising militants at every step.
    Nothing humanly stop it, except Islam.

  47. Auntie Mame 10 Aug 2009, 4:57pm

    Auntie Jack:

    You said:

    “Geert Wilders was banned from coming to Britain a couple of months ago to show the film Fitna, an expose on Islam, to members of the House of Lords. Not only was Lord Ahmed ( who subsequently served a disgracefully shortened prison sentence for dangerous driving in which he killed a man) free to threaten, with impunity, the House with “veiled” Islamic violence, but the lovely Jacqui Smith was able to put a block on Geert Wilder’s entry into Britain.”

    Great free publicity, otherwise I never would have bought a copy of it. And boy, does Islam have it in for christian fundamentalists, blasphemous polytheists infidel pigs. Off with their heads.

    Rattlesnake hors d’oeuvre anyone?

  48. Brian Burton 10 Aug 2009, 8:21pm

    UpAnuntieJacksAss,
    Temper tantrums, muck spreading, personal attacks? All these things describe Auntie Jack perfectley. I order you to stop attacking All Gay People, do you understand? or are you too addle brained?

  49. Alex, Brisbane, Australia 11 Aug 2009, 9:26am

    I’m a pagen, and isn’t god a DJ?

  50. Brian Burton 11 Aug 2009, 5:10pm

    Alex,
    Pagan eh? Are you A profit of Baal or a Stone Henge sundowner? Be anything except a Fundy!

  51. Brian Burton 11 Aug 2009, 5:13pm

    Auntie Mame,
    Your a sweety, drop pants for smacky-smacky!

  52. Eagle Ashcroft 12 Aug 2009, 2:25am

    By cracky I thought Jesus the old c-cksucker was the Queen of Heaven. Hell and all these years I was sure he (she?) was the biggest drag queen in Holy Land Heaven and now I find out she was just an old Lesbian in drag posing as a man. Durn it by cracky you learn something new every day. And those prizzy Christians are just upset knowing the truth about their fairy god mother.

  53. Brian Burton 12 Aug 2009, 2:01pm

    Eagle Ashcroft,
    You Drop Pants for Smacky Smacky too, you naughty ‘Where Eagles Dare’ Person!

  54. “Very eloquently put; would you care to expand on these sentiments – maybe with some reasoned argument – wihtout temper tantrums, muck spreading or personal attacks”

    When you start doing this, we will, I’m sure lend you the same curtsey.

    Your obvious anger belies your frustration with not being able to give a rational argument yourself…. like a small child. Unlike a child, they grow and learn. You dont.

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