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Brighton council halts gay foster case

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  1. Simon Murphy 7 Jul 2009, 11:21am

    Let Brighton & Hove Council know what you think of their decision.

    They can be reached at brighton-hove.gov.uk/index.cfm?request=b1153064

    Click the online form and then Social Services and give them your feedback. They like to be informed about what the public thinks of their decisions

  2. I think the gay couple are probably better off without this child.Leave the Catholics to rot in their bigot mess.

  3. On what ground exactly are they reviewing the decision? Sadly, the results of such ad hoc reviews are always certain.

  4. Simon Murphy 7 Jul 2009, 12:22pm

    This is not the child’s fault or the gay couple’s fault or even the mother’s fault (she is obviously very unwell if she is deemed incapable of looking after her own child).

    The villain of this piece is the shadowy catholic cultists who are acting on behalf of this woman to further their sinister agenda of interference in the rule of law. Had they not approached her and taken her case on then I doubt she would have any problem with the foster parents.

    Considering the levels of child sex abuse in the catholic cult I think the mother would be better off worrying about what designs the cult has on her child.

  5. This is what I wrote to the council: It is with deep sadness that I read today you are halting a foster home for a little boy in need because his carers will be 2 men. I understand that the pressure put upon an already difficult job by the religious right must be difficult. However, giving in to them is wrong. You clearly assessed this couple as suitable & that has not changed but certain ‘faith’ groups have harrassed you into submission. They have shown their true colours that the most important thing is ‘getting one up’ on groups of people they choose not to like. Therefore, I would be cautious of placing children in homes where this kind of ‘obsession’ with other peoples lives is unhealthy, not because the gender of the parents is the same.

  6. Mihangel apYrs 7 Jul 2009, 1:00pm

    yes Simon:
    10 is old enough to take an adult cock, and young enough for them to train him not to bite….

  7. Vincent Poffley 7 Jul 2009, 1:19pm

    What possible right could this woman have to impose her nasty, bigoted beliefs on her child? He is an independent human being, not her property, and the only decent thing to do is allow him to come to his own decision when he is old enough about whether he follows a religion or doesn’t. Childhood indoctrination is bordering on child abuse in itself, especially some of the more extreme examples from the catholic faith. There is no reason whatsoever to think that religious people should be allowed to indoctrinate their children, or that this is in any way a good thing.

  8. “She would prefer a Catholic couple, but if that is not possible, at least a heterosexual one.”

    Fine. Put the child with a heterosexual couple. Richard and Lalla Dawkins. Then see how she reacts.

  9. Edward in Los Angeles 7 Jul 2009, 1:48pm

    I wrote the Council and I am in Los Angeles. Hopefully other people around the world will voice their concern with the Council too.

  10. although i do feel sorry for this woman for the abuse she suffered at the hands of her thug of a heterosexual partner…..i have to say that she should be the first to acknowledge that her religion is hardly progressive when it comes to leaving such abusive relationships, and the primary interests of the child…the Catholic church would have her staying in such abusive relationship perhaps until the day her heterosexual partner beat her to death….she should be thankful if that child isn’t forced into another environment like that

  11. Rick George 7 Jul 2009, 2:06pm

    Your children are not your children.
    They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself.
    They come through you but not from you,
    And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

    You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
    For they have their own thoughts.
    You may house their bodies but not their souls,
    For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
    which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
    You may strive to be like them,
    but seek not to make them like you.
    For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

    from The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran

  12. The mother has no right she signed the rights to her child away or they where taken off her because of her mental breakdown. Stonewall should be lending their legal team to this couple who through extensive testing have been deemed fit and proper people to look after the child.

    The fact the child is up for adoption shows the mother is incapable of ever looking after the child again of he would of been up for fostering.

    The council should think hard about this as they face being sued by the couple for discrimination and the emotional distress caused.

    Catholics are not the only ones who can take legal action.

  13. The one thing that appalls me more than anything else is when she said “encouraged into a lifestyle”. Every LGBT person and all their allies should be grossly offended by the “homosexual recruitment” conspiracy theory that runs so rampant in much of heteronormative denialism. The notion that no gay people could exist lest they be continually recruited, should be as offensive and vulgar to us as the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” is to Jews and Judaism. When someone suggests that gay people “encourage into a lifestyle” other people as the means of there being more gay people, it is more inflammatory than any cutting hateful sexual slur, because it seeks to deny the validity of our very dignity and existence.

  14. Har Davids 7 Jul 2009, 3:53pm

    So, what made the Council come to it’s decision? The fact that the couple is gay, or because it may not be RC? As for the mother: these men probably grew up in a heterosexual setting, but they weren’t encouraged into that kind of lifestyle, so maybe their gayness won’t rub off on the child.

  15. Supposing the child turns out to be gay? This possibility seems to have not been considered – even though there’s perhaps a 1-in-10 chance of its likelihood – still less the damaging impact of being brought up being taught you’re ‘intrinsically disordered’, or that other gay people are. At best adoption by Catholics stans to perpetuate homophobia in straight kids, or inflicts downright abuse on gay kids. On both grounds adoption by Catholics should be illegal, and I don’t know why this argument isn’t being made more widely.

  16. “On both grounds adoption by Catholics should be illegal”

    good point Mark…..and their priests should be kept away from kids as well………no more pandering to the Vatican! enough is enough! they wanna play? let’s play!

  17. mihangel – you are a sick bastard
    Gays and bisexuals and lesbians are not pedos
    heteros are pedos stat wise
    I think this is tragic for the kid and the couple

  18. Brigit Cunningham 7 Jul 2009, 5:00pm

    Sorry guys. I am a single mum with a very handsome little 6 year old boy. I have had too many of my gay friends make lurid comments about how he looks “you can come and clean my pool any day” to “look at his sexy little mouth.” You’ve dug your own grave. However bad the Catholics have behaved will never come anywhere close to the remarks I’ve had to endure about my son. No way on earth should you gentlemen adopt little boys. I hate to tar all of you with the same brush because I really do love you all, but facts are facts.

  19. Whoa Chester:

    Mihangel was being sarcastic, that’s all. This issue infuriayes him, as it does me. Cool it, wiilya.

  20. Brigit Cunningham 7 Jul 2009, 5:08pm

    No way on earth should gay men adopt little boys. I am a single mum with a very handsome 7 yr old son. I have had to endure too many comments from my gay friends such as “he can come and clean my pool any day” to “what a sexy little mouth” to know that this is a seriously bad idea. I hate to tar all of you with the same brush but you dug your own grave; too many of you have made Catholic indiscretions look positively saintly.

  21. Jaisne Blue Sexton 7 Jul 2009, 5:15pm

    wow, ‘Brigit Cunningham’ had to leave not one, but two comments saying how much she loves gay men but they are all pedophiles after her pretty 7 year old son. what a big fat nasty liar! i doubt she’s who she says she is, and that she has a kid at all – if she is even a he and actually exists. what a sick person.

  22. Brigit Cunningham:

    Could you repeat that please.

  23. Jaisne Blue Sexton 7 Jul 2009, 5:23pm

    oh yeah, just noticed, in one post her kid is 6 and in another post, her kid is 7. psycho ‘Brigit’ can’t keep the lies straight.

  24. Notice:

    An updated article indicates that it was the gay couple who backed away from this adoption. Check it out before making a comment here.

  25. Brigit sounds like one of those young Irish girls who the nuns and dirty old priests there took advantage of when she was a small child now she seeks to hate all gays……i’m sorry for the hardship you’ve had to face Brigit…please seek some sort of counselling….those priests were very evil to do such things to you

  26. Daniel Loftin 7 Jul 2009, 6:34pm

    I don’t hear anything, here or in the article, about what the children want. I find it very disappointing that these children are being used as pawns, simply because the mother doesn’t want to let go of them, even though she and her extended famly won’t keep them.

  27. Pumpkin Pie 8 Jul 2009, 1:51am

    “Facts are facts”, Brigit Cuntingham? And since when does heavily biased anecdotal evidence count as “facts”? Funny how the Baby P case and the Vatican-sponsored kiddy-fiddling doesn’t show how evil heterosexuals are, but any time any gay person does something, they did it ‘cos they’re gay – we might all do it!

    Don’t kid yourself, you worthless scum, “we” haven’t forced you to come to any conclusion – you’re just a disgusting, hateful bigot. I dread to think what sort of minority-bashing skinhead your son (whose age you’re not even sure of) will become.

  28. ‘Brigit Cunningham’ – if any adult (of either gender) made such lewd comments about any child (of either gender) of mine, they would get short shrift, if not a smack in the mouth, very quickly, and would cease to be friends forthwith. It is quite disturbing that you have allowed yourself to ‘endure too many comments from your gay friends’ about your son and yet persist in remaining in friendship with them. What are you doing, waiting for your ‘son’ to get molested? There must be a question as to your fitness as a parent if you choose to bring your child up in such a threatening and unsuitable environment, as well as the fact that you don’t even appear to know your son’s age (are you drunk or otherwise intoxicated, perhaps?) Perhaps you should have him taken from you and put into care? Those nice Catholics will surely look after him and keep him protected from those predatory friends of yours. Or perhaps neither you nor he actually exist? Of course, at the rate your ‘son’ appears to be growing up, he should by now be able to come on here and let us know for himself what he thinks of you and your friends….

  29. Felipe Diez 8 Jul 2009, 10:37am

    so sad for the child … your catholic mather will burn in the hell !!

  30. Alex, Brisbane, Australia 8 Jul 2009, 11:17am

    Brigit…are you David Skinner’s alter ego?

  31. Brigit Cunningham 8 Jul 2009, 2:49pm

    Sorry about posting twice. My son literally just turned seven last week, but the comments were made when he was six. Hope that clears that up. Sorry you all hate me for reporting my own experience and comments from gay men towards my son. Perhaps you should question your own attitudes, instead of mine.

  32. Mr Phillips 8 Jul 2009, 3:23pm

    So, the question still stands, “Brigit”… why would you maintain a friendship with a pervy person who is making “lurid” comments about her son??? You’re a fake, at least.

  33. “Brigit” – if you had a “very pretty daughter” and your straight male friends made similarly lewd remarks about her as you claim have been made about your son, would you say that “No way on earth should straight men adopt little girls”?…Do let us know. Also, you remark that “However bad the Catholics have behaved will never come anywhere close to the remarks I’ve had to endure about my son” (sic), indicating that you have no idea whatsoever of the extent of the vilest physical and sexual abuse inflicted on children over decades by Catholic priests, in compensation for which the Catholic Church has been forced to pay HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars – with more to come. Furthermore, as is typical of many rabid Christians and Daily Mail readers, you seem to be confusing ‘homosexuality’ with ‘paedophilia’, since only the latter would have the sexual interest in a 6 or 7 year old you claim your ‘friends’ have in your son. So again there is the question as to your suitability as a parent, mixing in such unsavoury circles yourself and placing your child at risk by allowing him to be exposed to them….And finally, ‘Brigit’, I’m quite curious as to why you would be spending time reading this gay website and taking time to contribute to it – aren’t you concerned at what your paedophile friends might be doing to your son?…

  34. Brigit Cunningham 8 Jul 2009, 10:33pm

    Mark This is my last post you’ll be glad to hear, because you all sound like girls with PMS. I am a real person and this is my real name. I chose to go on this website and comment because no one else these days has the guts to suggest why the Brighton Council may have made their decision, which has clearly upset the gay community. No one else WILL dare comment because of their fear of being labelled…well… everything you’ve labelled me. Perhaps you can get way from the petty personal insults (yes I’m guilty of that too) and explain to your friends WHY you think the Brighton Council made that decision. I for one would be interested in hearing a coherent argument from you. (Where’s Mandelson when you need him.) And hopefully something that doesn’t require the use of the word ‘bigot’. In the meantime, I’ll remember not to repeat that joke told further up the posts about the 10 year old boy. Nice touch.

  35. lithotomist 12 Aug 2009, 10:38pm

    Just to point out that’s Brighton & Hove Council which has a Conservative leader and where the biggest group of councillors are Conservatives – you know, those Conservatives who claim to have moved away from ignorance and homophobia and to be really switched on now where gays and equality and opposing ignorance and bigotry are concerned. Then we get to see them in action, and the administration they lead.

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