It sadly comes as no suprise! Its bad enough trying to get people to report homophobia to the police in the rest of the uk; I should know as I’e been trying to encourage people to report for years and they don’t have to put up with the “Iris Robinsons” of this world!!!
Can’t help but wonder if it’s partly because of backward retarded politicians like Iris Robinson who will speak out about her abhorrence for gays but stays completely silent when reports like this one come to light. Well done Iris, your help in running the country has been noted!
my guess the same applies to the uk as well
What a surprise. A friend of mine from Ulster said he was thinking of going back to live there and then heard news of a local council passing a resolution to have Creationism taught in local schools. Ho, hum.
I think there is more here than people letting on. It’s not just the homophobia. It’s the fact it is not being reported. Having had my fair share of Irish guys, I actually made a conscious decision a long time back not to bother with them, due to the fact they were full-on and interested at the time, but the following morning suffered huge guilt trips and had a terrible time trying to balance their homosexuality with their religious teachings. Generally Protestant Irish were a little more rational than Catholics, but not by much.
The Catholic church has caused a considerable amount of damage throughout the world with it’s pro-life and anti-contraception attitudes, but these don’t even come close to the anti-gay ones. The irony is that they continue to cover up paedophilic gay priests even to this day. One even wonders if they would actually consider the sexuality worse than the act.
I think there are still major opportunities for low-lifes to blackmail and threaten gay people in Ireland, and until the authorities face up and accept us, many Irish gay men are going to continue to lead closet existences.
I read the book and it was great, but I haven’t seen very good reviews about the movie. I know this movie by my bisexual friend met at a bisexual club ___seek bi—com___. Some straight people may regard as it’s a bad movie. I have also talked about it with many gay and lesbian friends. They believe it was amazing, and very true to the book.
The power of Christianity at it’s best. Keep them poor, ignorant and scared still seems to be working over there.
“due to the fact they were full-on and interested at the time, but the following morning suffered huge guilt trips and had a terrible time trying to balance their homosexuality with their religious teachings.”
RobN, you are either thinking of exclusively of DUP land in County Antrim, or the last time you were with an Irish guy was back in 1945. Ireland, at least the Republic, is not like that an longer. Let me remind you, its the influence of the Presbyterian “Unionists” that keep this homophobia very much alive, not the catholic nationalists, in the north, at least.
RobN, go and have a lye down! I don’t appreciate you talking about Irish people as “them”. As an Irish Catholic from near Belfast it might be shocking for you to understand that not every gay person on the island of Ireland is in the closet. Further more, if you actually did your homework and actually been to Belfast, it’s the hardline Presbyterian protestants parties like the DUP in Belfast that compare gay people to pedophiles, do you not remember the Hitler of Belfast from the DUP Iris Robinson? So saying “Generally Protestant Irish were a little more rational than Catholics, but not by much.” is a load of uneducated nonsense…
The Catholic party Sinn Fein are the only party to actually go out of their way and speak out in favour of gay rights.. People like Iris Robinson discriminated against Catholics for years and now feels she has to move on the gay community… the sooner there is a United Ireland and have a Irish President like Mary McAleese who actually publically states that gay people should have rights and be able to marry the better… then people like Iris Robinson can go and move to England and see how she lasts there talking nonsense like that while apparently being loyal to her queen..
PS – RobN, I must remember ‘to make a conscious decision to not bother’ with YOU!
John: I’m sorry of you find my personal experiences offensive, and I’m sure there are many Irishmen that are out and proud, but I can only speak from my own findings. I think even you cannot deny that the fact homophobic incidents are not being reported has to be due to closet gays not wanting to be found out, exacerbated by religious zealots decrying homosexuality.
“cannot deny that the fact homophobic incidents are not being reported has to be due to closet gays not wanting to be found out, exacerbated by religious zealots decrying homosexuality.”
You will fins that in any European country, no more or less in Ireland. Religious zealots are not as influential as you seem to think, either north or south of the border, and they certainly are not the exclusive domain of the Irish. Ireland is not the god-fearing peasant backwater you seem to think it is, RobN.
In fact, you could easily show same sex affection publicly without so much as a stare in Dublin as you would in London.
That’s what you get for reading the Daily mail, who’s editorials are still of the mindset of 1830′s colonial Britain…. try wikipedia, if you don’t have the cash to actually visit the country you are going to lambaste with a outdated stereotype.
Har Davids: “The power of Christianity at it’s best. Keep them poor, ignorant and scared still seems to be working over there.”
You should be a little more informed. This homophobia is perpetuated by the dominating political party in the Province, who seem to think loyalty to the queen involves beating the crap out of gays and burning their neighbouring country’s flag.
Ireland is neither poor or ignorant. The latest available figures for all EU member states showed that, in the second
quarter of 2007, 30% of all 25-34 year olds had a third level qualification. The equivalent figure for Ireland was 44%, ranking the country second in the EU only to Cyprus (47%).
Now, I’d hardly call that the “stupid Irish”, woudl you?
Will: I have visited Northern Ireland and the Republic many times, and never at any point insinuated that they are some backwater bunch of country yokels. Nevertheless, old traditions and cultures run deep and it’s going to take more than a few government directives to change hundreds of years of beliefs and traditions.
Oh, and I’m not saying the Irish are stupid, but you can’t be the sharpest tool in the box. Ignorant does not mean stupid. Not being aware of something does not equate to lack of intelligence.
Ignorant adj Knowing very little or nothing about something.
And RobN, ignorance is overcome by education. Which I have in abundance, thank you for your typically crude concern. So spare me the semantic distraction from your stereotyping.
Can we get back on topic here? These figure are sad but sadly not surprising. Northern Ireland is a blackspot of bigotry and hatred – be it religious sectarianism, racism and homophobia. Hatred of the “other” is deeply ingrained in to the psyche of all too many Northerners. And you must not confuse Norn Iron with the Republic. NI is much more behind socially than the Republic.
Most of the homophobia in NI comes actually from the Unionists, especially the bible bashing bigots who populate the DUP. They are the main problem holding the province back.
Yes agreed! Lets save our backbiting for those who cause us the pain in the first place! When you mix politics with any sort of religion you get homophobia or worse (see article on Iraq Guys and Gels!)Lets hear it for a secular, non homophobic, non racisit sensible society!!!