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Interview: Dan Choi on the US military gay ban

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  1. Simon Murphy 24 Apr 2009, 1:47pm

    In principle I am against the gay military ban.

    But considering the illegal invasion of the US in Iraq and the continuing mayhem and murder there I am doubtful if membership of a military machine like the US Army is beneficial to anyone.

  2. When I was in the Navy they said that a gay person was a military threat for National Security and subject to blakmail and if they would remove DADT what would there to black mail anyone for? Look who is making so of these decisions, retired admirals, generals etc over 72 and they are not up with the times.

  3. vulpus_rex 24 Apr 2009, 4:42pm

    I seem to remember that the ban on homosexuals serving in the UK army was removed.

    As far as I am aware this hasn’t lead to the standards of military discipline plummeting and national security becoming precariously threatened.

    Couldn’t the head of the UK armed forces have a quiet word?

    BTW is Adrian Tippets the person who poss as AdrianT on here?

  4. I saw the interview on the Rachel Maddow Show where Lt Dan Choi came out, he seems to be an incredibly intelligent and articulate young man. Whether you agree with military action in Iraq or not, why should his being gay preclude him from a job that he loves and is obviously qualified to do?
    Whilst I know of no cases where a British soldier has been in trouble for any “gay” offences, General Colin Powell said (again on the Rachel Maddow Show) that the American and British military are not comparable. He’s obviously choosing to ignore the experience of other military forces around the world who have also successfully integrated gay people into the ranks. It seems though that most of the people questioned in the Obama administration are in favour of the repeal of DADT so hopefully it’s just a matter of time.
    Kaz

  5. Fans of The West Wing may recall one of my favorite characters in the show – Admiral Percy Fitzwallace, the African American Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If you are unaware of what that position means, just know that it is the President’s top military advisor – the one who would be there when ‘the button’ would be pushed.

    Here’s a transcript of a scene where he discusses gays in the military with some far more junior service personnel.

    MAJOR TATE
    Sir, we’re not prejudiced toward homosexuals.

    FITZWALLACE
    You just don’t want to see them serving in the Armed Forces?

    MAJOR TATE
    No sir, I don’t.

    FITZWALLACE
    ‘Cause they pose a threat to unit discipline and cohesion?

    MAJOR TATE
    Yes sir.

    FITZWALLACE
    That’s what I think too. I also think the military wasn’t designed to be an instrument of social change.

    MAJOR TATE
    Yes sir.

    FITZWALLACE
    The problem with that is, that’s what they were saying to me 50 years ago. Blacks shouldn’t serve with Whites. It would disrupt the unit. You know what? It did disrupt the unit. The unit got over it. The unit changed. I’m an now an admiral in the U.S. Navy and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff…Beat that with a stick.

    Ultimately it should be the capabilities of the person that decide whether they are suitable to serve in the armed forces.

    SThat said, if Dan feels like he might want a change of scene, he could come and test me for battle readiness.)

  6. I live in Switzerland. Here, as well as in other European countries, being gay and serving in the military is a non issue. The U.S. Military as well as the citizens of the U.S. should be ashamed of themselves for this kind of action.

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