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Breaking: Gay marriage now legal in Vermont

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  1. Note to Governor Jim Douglas: Hahahahahahahaha!

  2. Pete & Michael 7 Apr 2009, 4:47pm

    Now we have several states in USA legalising same sex marriage, isn’t it about time we did the same here in UK.

  3. I can’t argue against it- it’ll create so many jobs and be a real benefit for the State. It really is inevitable for the whole of the USA and indeed the rest of European countries.

  4. jonnielondon 7 Apr 2009, 5:57pm

    Canada salutes you, Vermont. Welcome aboard!

  5. jonnielondon 7 Apr 2009, 5:58pm

    Canada salutes you, Vermont. Way to go.

  6. agree with pete and michael it is time for the uk to go all the way

    BRAVO VERMONT

  7. Robert, ex-pat Brit 7 Apr 2009, 6:55pm

    Pete & Michael, absolutely! But….beware of the naysayers who post here, the ones who apparently speak for the “majority of Gay Brits” who don’t want “straight” marriage, let alone hate it. They think they have something better and actually believe that the rest of the civilised world is going to follow the UK’s example. NOT! We’re going to be the ones left behind. My take on this is, if you want civil partnerships, fine, but don’t deny the rest of us who want the same equal rights as straights to marry the one we love. Marriage is and always will be the universal gold standard, civil partnerships, unions, PACS will never be. If seven western countries allow full marriage and now four states in America, how can the UK be right? It begs the question, if civil partnerships, unions are the way to go, why are other countries rejecting them for marriage? I think it speaks for itself, don’t you?

  8. Pete & Michael 7 Apr 2009, 7:43pm

    Just to say to Robert Ex-Pat Brit, thank you!, We love each other with all of our hearts, we are first to admit we have had our ups and downs, mostly because of antagonistic people, but, after 26 years together does not that show our commitment to each other. Yes, we have faced criticism from our elk, but we want full marriage as our equality not a partnership as is.

  9. i would love to see gay marriage in UK, but as i see it the power has to be taken away from the church for it to work. marriage for anyone should be thought the government not the church. and then we can look on the heavier matter of getting people to accept that the bible does not condemn homosexuality

  10. Pumpkin Pie 8 Apr 2009, 11:06am

    Why is a cash-strapped state focussing on gay marriage? Honestly! The very idea that financial difficulties are an excuse for immorality! Silly people. Yay for gay marriage!

  11. Well done Vermont.

    I agree that it is now time for the European countries which have same sex civil unions to upgrade those laws to proper same sex marriage ones. Hope we’ll see it soon here in Germany as well.

  12. lol@ Jim Douglas. Gutted you!

  13. Brian Burton 9 Apr 2009, 9:19am

    I was legaly partnered at the local Registra’s office three years ago in Southampton. We both certainly feel married and have experianced the privelages that go with it. So, whats the hue and cry? Marrage, Civil Partnership? I cannot see any differance between the two.

  14. Robert, ex-pat Brit 9 Apr 2009, 8:19pm

    Pete and Michael, thank you both.

    Brian…though partnerships do provide much or all of the rights of marriage, the difference between the two is easy to figure out once you leave the UK for whatever reason as one example. You’ll soon find out that a civil-partnered couple get no recognition in countries where same-sex marriage is legal. Not only that, getting all of the rights of marriage under a different name isn’t about equality at all. If that were the case, they would be recognised as such in the marriage causes act. I’ve not seen any change in that, have you? Its not about semantics as some try to skew it, a lame excuse. They are not legal marriages by definition, Burton, no matter how you feel personally about partnerships. How can segegrating an entire group of people apart from the majority with similar rights be equal? Makes no sense whatsoever. If you hate marriage fine and prefer civil partnerships, fine too, but those of you who feel that way shouldn’t be against those who want full marriage, in fact you should be helping to fight for that basic civil right. Let me draw another analogy, Brian. A UK gay couple can get married in several countries. Once they return to the UK with a legal marriage certificate, our government immediately recognises them as civil partnerships, not marriages, another absurdity let alone very insulting to the couples.

    Even in the U.S. same-sex marriages are recognised in those states that allow it as well as foreign marriages of same-sex couples, not as civil unions or partnerships but as marriages. New York state where I currently reside most of the year has marriage equality legislation pending. Even here, same-sex marriages from other states and countries are recognised as such. Why should the UK discriminate in this manner, which is what it really is and why would anyone want to support that type of blatant discrimination that has been legalised and accepted by many LGB people in the UK just to get their rights regardless of the terminology? Why should any gay person be treated as a second class citizen? Separate is never equal. Its absurd and for me and others who support full marriage, deeply offensive. Sooner or later, as more enlightened, progressive countries open marriage to gay couples, the UK and others will have to come to terms with reality. Marriage equality is inevitable and growing with every passing day. We’re already seeing it in America now. Civil unions have not worked and have been proved not to work. Vermont of all places was the first state to offer civil unions in 2000, long before civil partnerships were a reality in the UK. Now it has abandoned unions for marriage by an overwhelming majority of straight democratic politicians who legislated for it. I think that speaks volumes for the progression of marriage equality all over the western world.

  15. Robert, ex-pat Brit 9 Apr 2009, 8:21pm

    Ooops, I meant to have said “segregating” not segregrating in my previous post…sorry for the oversight.

  16. Bill Perdue 14 Apr 2009, 4:48am

    Four down, forty six to go. Of which about 30 have Defense of Marriage Acts. The passage of same sex marriage in a few more states should start an avalanche.

    DOMAs were passed by “concerned christers”, politesse for ”I’m a compulsive superstitious twit, a christer who can’t control my obsessive hatred of GLBT folks.”

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