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Homophobic hate crimes ‘linked to Prop 8′

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  1. Dave North 16 Mar 2009, 2:49pm

    Well, Well. Surprise Surprise.

  2. Let’s be honest. A lot of this is due to the fact that some protesters engage in taunting and employ “in your face” tactics. If you want respect and tolerance for your beliefs you must extend the same to others who disagree with you. Violence doesn’t have to be only physical and the attitude of many of the protesters is anything but peaceful.

  3. My wife is cheating on me, whenever I’m home she’s nagging, both my kids are on drugs and I lost my job, so I go to my waterhole where I meet the boys, the real ones, when we’re a bit short on beer money or bored we go out on the streets and believe me when we see them lovey dovey gays with a smile on their faces we’re upset, why don’t these /…/ accept our vote?, yes I didn’t vote, anyway I don’t like them, they’re a bad example for our kids. After we teach them a lesson we take their wallet it comes in handy for Monday night football.

    Sad isn’t it?
    Having being brought up in such environment I know there are millions like that, I know that jails are not the answer EDUCATION AND SOCIAL IMPROVEMENT ARE THE ANSWERS.
    A pedophile teacher educated me and gave me more than my parents could. The poor and un-educated were the majority vote on prop 8.
    Gay bashers are poor and un-educated and the law won’t change anything there are laws against bank robberies and they’re on the rise too. No denying same sex marriage should be allowed and will be.

  4. “I certainly hope Proposition 8 did not result in more crime,”
    READ: I don’t know what the statistics say.

    “But if it did, it did so on both sides.”
    READ: But I’m going to comment on them anyway as though I knew what I was talking about.

  5. Arthur (AmeriNZ) 17 Mar 2009, 8:07pm

    First, these statistics are only for one county in California—Santa Clara, an area also known as South Bay. It includes Silicon Valley. The summary doesn’t make clear what these statistics are about, but the original story does. Statewide statistics won’t be released until July.

    I was horrified to read the comment above:

    “Let’s be honest. A lot of this is due to the fact that some protesters engage in taunting and employ ‘in your face’ tactics. If you want respect and tolerance for your beliefs you must extend the same to others who disagree with you. Violence doesn’t have to be only physical and the attitude of many of the protesters is anything but peaceful.”

    So in other words, the victims brought it on themselves? What a load of nonsense–deeply offensive nonsense. The “Yes on 8″ people never showed even the tiniest amount of “respect and tolerance for… others who disagree with you”. In fact, their entire campaign was built on lies and distortions, and they quite happily defamed and smeared gay people. Their ads are all over the Web if you want to look for yourself.

    The “Yes on 8″ people created a climate in which anti-gay hate crimes were the logical result and, I would argue, they were quite happy to do so. By contrast, the “No on 8″ people weren’t very forceful until after Prop 8 was adopted, and even that was pretty much over by December.

    Look at the videos of protesters outside the California Supreme Court recently: The taunting, “in your face”, disrespectful, intolerant protesters were on the ANTI-gay side; THEY were the ones who were “anything but peaceful”.

    I’m sorry, but that comment struck me as internalised homophobia, the tired old “if we just hide in our dark little closets and don’t say or do anything to make straights see us, then maybe they’ll leave us alone.” Newsflash: There are plenty of people in this world who hate us because we exist, and plenty of them would quite happly bash us or worse, no matter how deeply closeted we are.

    The answer isn’t in hiding, it isn’t accommodating hate groups in pursuit of “tolerance” or “respect” we’ll never get in return, it’s in challenging homophobic bigotry wherever we find it.

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