Wow – do gays really control the weather like that? That’s news to me… I thought only Storm from “X-men” had that ability.
I reckon the recent flurry of snow in the UK was down to me being a shade more gay than normal. If I pretend to be straight does that make the weather tropical as I’m trying to save on my heating bills!
isn’t the christian god a great guy, not only does he hate homosexuals apparently, but he thinks the best way to show his hatred is to drown hundreds of mainly poor elderly black people in New Orleans. What a guy! Wish i worshipped him!
The Prada Pope takes the Church back to Pre-Vatican II.
Neo-conservative thinking isn’t limited to the U.S. Republican party.
Of dubious morality, both.
There’s hope for Bishop Devine and his strategy for promotion then… Wicked old clerics.
Well, Andy, I just wish I had his tolerance.
A very high wall around the Vatican and no way out for it’s inhabitants.
Make it like the place featured in the USA movie called “one flew over the cuckoos nest”. About when the inmates ran the asylum.
they fixed some of them with lobotomies. How did we miss that solution.
1. It would appear these guys are really saying God isn’t as clever as they claim He is … If Katrina was a Divine punishment on New Orleans, etc. – how come the punishment wasn’t selectively applied to gays only? how come Churches were demolished as well as other buildings? Surely we would have seen streets where some houses were flooded and destroyed while next door was dry and untouched?
2. This Pope is a total disaster, there’s this story and just the other day he annulled the excommunication of a ‘bishop’ who is a serial Holocaust derier!
You know I always wondered what happened to the simple guy, Benny, in the 70s soap ‘Crossroads’…..
….. looks like he added a dick to his name and became Pope!!!!
I am not God so I am in no position to judge, but I think the Holy Spirit is pretty displeased and disappointed with Benedict’s less than Christ like attitude and behaviour. I suspect She is muttering to Herself, ” The Pope’s a Dope, or he is on dope otherwise he wouldn’t act, speak and behave in such a ridiculously fearful, absurd and unintelligent manner!”
The popes on dope and the disease is obviously catchy. hundreds of millions of minds still suffering over hte worst lie in the course of human history.
Begs the question, if the Vatican suffered a tornado, flood or somesuch catastrophe, would the Catholic Church have to revise their position of gays triggering divine vengeance?
Then again, when Carlisle was flooded a few years back, the similarly homophobic Bishop of Carlisle didn’t seem to think that could be a reflection on him!
No doubt he’d interpret that as ‘not having been hard enough on them’, flapjack
This is a serious question…
throughout my life, the biggest homophobes have been gay. In school, at university, one at work. He was caught by his girlfriend with a man in bed. hé hé
Is Pope Benedict XVI gay?
Now – his mentor in his youth was old adoph himself. Something about German culture in those days – beliefs.
You know where that one took us. May Allah solve our problem with the vatican – just dont hurt innocient people please.
Homophobia by gays is a direct result of self-loathing, inculcated by nonsense teaching by such as Bendict XVI. If LGBT people have shorter lives on average, that is also too often the reason.
Time to change? You bet.
I AM NOT SURPRISE EVERYONE IS TURNING AWAY FROM THIS RELIGION,NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, MY NAME SPEAKS FOR ITSELF VATICAN BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES….THEY YILL NEVER ACCEPT THAT GOD HAVE CREATED ALL US THE SAME, AND YET DIFFERENT…..ISLAM SAY!
Sure, why not start promoting people in lunatic asylums to bishops? That’s all that’s next for this old fart of a man.
I am pleased to see the Counter-Reformation Pope consecrating as Bishops people who are even crazier than he is. Urban II (who called the first Crusade) and Pius V (who called for the overthrow of Elizabeth I and ordered masses to celebrate the massacre of French Protestants)would heartily approve. What’s also fun is that the only other groups who agree with them are Protestant fundamentalists and Muslim extremists who think they are as damned to hell as gays and lesbians are. I don’t suppose Benedict xvi will lead the RC Church off a cliff (if only!), but he might help it seriously to fragment. Fingers crossed.
In any other area but religion, these type of people would be in a secure unit within a padded cell. It is about time this type of deranged thought was removed from modern society. There is enough hatred out there without the church joining in. They can get away with saying whatever the hell they want and its ok, because they pretend that god told them to say it. Yet if we stand up for our rights or pass comments on the church they attack us with an outdated blasphemy law. I’m sorry but religion has had its time, if all it can offer is to attack certain areas of society. They quote the bible, but the bible also says:
You must not:
harvest the corners of a field
shave or get a haircut
wear clothes of a mixed textile blend
have a tattoo
kill a child which curses its parents (3 cheers for Leviticus)
observe the Feast of Trumpets ….
no where does it say, if ye suffer the gays to live, i will mess up the earth’s weather pattern and kill heterosexuals in a flood!!
What an evil old bastard Pope Ratzinger is. And in light of 5the recent news that he is reappointing Holocaust deniers to the church it seems clear that he is now applying the lessons he learned about homosexuals and jews which he learned as a member of Hitler Youth. It’s quite clear that he agrees with the theories of Hitler Youth.
Religious hatred of gays is based, as they say on the scriptures. Well just to put a few misconceptions right:
These days, 641 of the old laws from the bible are ignored. Can you guess which topic the religious fundamentalists still cling to?
The Old Testament was written in ancient Hebrew and by the time people got around to translating it into other languages, the meaning of lots of words had changed. The sin of the men of Sodom had nothing to do with gay sex, but everything to do with the way they treated their guests. The confusion stems from a mistranslation of the Hebrew word which means to “know”. In the New Testament it could mean having sex with someone and when you wrongly carry that meaning back into the Old Testament you get the well-known, but false, interpretation that Sodom was destroyed because its men folk were gay. The men of Sodom were punished because they treated their guests like slaves. This interpretation of the events is mentioned in several other parts of the Bible.
The vigorous condemnation of gay men in the Koran stems from the fact that the Koran takes over – lock, stock and mistranslation – the Sodom and Gomorrah story from the Bible. Let us also remember that in this story, Lot offered his daughters to the men of Sodom. Later on Lot had sex with his daughters … and Lot was supposed to be the good man who was spared.
St. Paul, of course, wrote in Ancient Greek. His translators talk about “unnatural acts” between men i.e. it’s unnatural and therefore bad. How natural is playing the piano? How natural is an iPod or a DVD? If you have appendicitis, the natural thing is to die, but we generally prefer the unnatural process of being anaesthetised, cut open, having the appendix removed and being sewn up again.
St. Paul actually uses the words “para physin”, which can translate as unnatural. It can also translate as “unusual” i.e. being different, but not “wrong”, like having red hair or being left-handed. In one description St. Paul refers to God acting “para physin”. One can’t have it both ways. Was St. Paul saying that God was acting unnaturally and was therefore bad?
hope this clears things up!!
The old and new testaments are written by many different people over a long period of time. And they are entirely fictional. It is also absurd to claim that these badly written works of fiction have any universality considering they were written to instruct a bunch of illiterate peasants living in a tiny area of the dessert. The fact that the christian; muslim and jewish cults use these awful books as the basis for their morality shows how deranged they are. Personally I think Jackie Collins is a better manual for moral living than the bible – it is certainly more relevant.
@ Simon – I always have to laugh when people describe the Bible as “The Greatest story ever told”. The longest perhaps, but even in terms of good literature it fails. There are great tracts of the Old Testament dedicated to paragraphs like “and Esau begot Ebediah, and Ebediah begot Jeremiah, and Jeremiah begot etc. etc. etc.” It goes on for page after page. They don’t even describe the act of begetting in any spicy detail, it just sounds like reading out the football results or a protracted shopping list. Where the hell was the book editor when he was needed? Someone to say “Yeah all that can go, it’s just filler” would have improved it by at least 50%. And when it does finally get to the point it contradicts itself every few paragraphs. Homer’s Odyssey is much more fun, and it has some half decent monsters in it.
The Bible bores me to tears…
Well, I suppose all this snow is down to us as well. No rest for the wicked…
I don’t know if it was educated to say that “Religious hatred of gays is based, as they say on the scriptures” At least when it comes to the Catholic Church, hating gays as a doctrine has never existed. You don’t have to be part of a religion to hate people, or even hate their sexual preference. What does the Catechism of the Catholic Church have to offer?
We are against sin, sins against chastity:
Grave sins against chastity differ according to their object: adultery, masturbation, fornication, pornography, prostitution, rape, and homosexual acts. These sins are expressions of the vice of lust. These kinds of acts committed against the physical and moral integrity of minors become even more grave.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,1 tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.”2 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
Catholicism DOESN’T HATE homosexuals.
As you read you did notice the homosexual acts part.
All it is to these passages is sins against chastity.
Homosexual acts is just another of the many.
Keep preaching, man!
How do you justify this promoted bishop’s wry interpretation about hurricane Katrina then?
Why do ‘mos have to remain celibate for their entire life while heteros won’t even be excommunicated or openly condemned for adultery? Besides, lots of priests, bishops, cardinals and Popes coudln’t even keep their PANTS on! Until leaders (and followers)of every major religion act as they preach, they should stop acting all hollier-than_thou.
Mind you, recently the Vatican also reinstalls a bishop who claimed Holocaust was a pure made-up story. Shame on papal state!
Keith – Well you may be against what you take to be sins… I’m personally against prudes. So what?
“These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.”
I have zero compulsion to act according to the tennets of a religion I neither believe in or adhere to. No god called me – ever.
I have no more right to veto your chosen lifestyle than you have mine, so please put a sock in it.
Remember and keep remembering – the Roman Catholic Church is a business and a very successful business just like any other business – nothing more and nothing less. So don’t expect from the Roman Catholic Church what you won’t get. I was told by one Roman Catholic Church priest who had refused to put sand onto an icy driveway on the church grounds leading to the church and that was used by old people comning to church, ‘So what! it is not my problem!’
Things like this and they wonder why their churches sit half empty across the globe. People are turning away from this kind of hatred and bigotry. The church will need to start a war soon to cleanse out those with any common sense. If we had no religion, this world would be a much better place. More people die in this world because of someones religous belief than all than any other cause known to man.
The Pope has too much power! How is it that a man can speak what God feels and says? That to me says someone is too full of themselves!
Peter – well when you can shoot lightning from your fingertips as Darth Ratzinger did in “Return of the Jedi”, it’s bound to give you something of a god complex ;)
The Poop has spoken. Long live The Poop!
That shows how stupid the catholic church can be.