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  1. Its time we took a stand and take issue with the bbc for its double standards when it comes to offensive remarks racism is a big no but when homophobic abuse is broadcast we’re told that its just a joke and perfectly ok. The lgbt community pays about £200million in the licence fees but how much is actually spent on programs and services directly for the lgbt community? Well all i know is that it is nowhere near £2million let alone £200million. Come on people complain about the homophobia to the bbc directly

  2. the BBC does treat LGBT issues well in its drama etc, but seems incapable of seeing the need to rein in its loudmouths (eg Clarkson) since they are popular with the audience they are aimed at.

    The Beeb never uses the queer/nigger substitution as a pointer

  3. The Stephen Green point at the end of the article gave me pause for thought. It’s difficult to maintain that the LGBT community should be immune to offence if the same rules apply to Stephen Green.
    How BBC guidelines should favour one minority and not another underlines the potential hazards of complaining of offence. Either both the LGBT and Stephen Green’s Christian voice get to censor stuff that isn’t to their liking or both can be treated in the same cavalier fashion. It’s tricky to make the case that our right not to be offended trumps that of Christian voice. I say that as someone who would happily see Stephen Green thrown in a heap of manure head first, but how do we argue for our right not to be offended if Christian voice doesn’t also have the same right to veto content they don’t like? You know they’d be the first to take the BBC to task for any percieved partisan bias… any thoughts?

  4. Tom Stewart 8 Jan 2009, 10:37am

    What?! This is a ridiculous article. I watched the BBC3 programme on the most annoying people, and I have to say all the comments made on Lindsay Lohan where not only accurate but entirely justified. How anyone could be offended but Lindsey Lohan herself is beyond me. This website seems only ever too ready to take offence at the smallest thing. There was me thinking the gay community were supposedly the most fun self-depricating community out there. Instead most of the time your writing comes across as whiney and po-faced and you are constantly playing the burning martyr card. Stop it.
    Fair enough, labels used the gay community shouldn’t be used in the meanstream media by people like Clarkson and Moyes to denote negativity, but you are taking offence at every little thing.

    So often you have to look at the context in which comments are made. Patrick Kielty and Colin Murray are friends. Kielty calling Murray a big gayer is in fact far from derogatory, if anything it was a term of endearment in this case. Having watched that particular show I felt it was a quite touching moment between two guys who obviously have alot of respect for each other.

    Hadn’t you all better just look at the context of when these things are said as opposed being ready to scream offence?

  5. Brian Reade in today’s mirror says,

    ‘An outraged Peter Tatchell is demanding DJ Spoony is suspended after a tongue-in-cheek suggestion on BBC3’s Most Annoying People Of 2008 that “fit” women should be saved for straight men. Encouraged by Jonathan Ross’s humiliation, this self-proclaimed moral majority believe they’ve got the whiphand now and want to drag us all into an age of humour prohibition. These highly-organised, po-faced internet guerillas know exactly how to stage-manage fury.’

    What a twisted reporting on the situation! (Tom Stewart, above, is another example of this)

    I’ve made my feelings clear to them by emailing them at at

  6. Eric James 8 Jan 2009, 1:24pm

    Please don’t join in the Murdoch-led assault on the BBC. This constant asking for apologies for people making jokes is not only tiresome but it threatens comedy itself. Not to mention free speech. The debate around Moyles’ use of the word ‘gay’ actually put the issue on the agenda, so maybe the BBC should be congratulated.

  7. The c*nt of Monte Crisco! 8 Jan 2009, 2:04pm

    Agrees whole heartedly with Tom. I’m a lesbian, among others, who actually finds Clarkson rather funny and chuckled at the gay car thing!

  8. James Whale 8 Jan 2009, 4:08pm

    @Flapjack: they’re not equivalent. Once you accept the basic premise that equality and freedom from prejudice are fundamental human rights, it becomes clear that not all beliefs are created equal. A belief that would restrict a gay person’s right to be treated in the same way as a straight person is an inferior belief, and one not worthy of being upheld or propagated, i.e. a gay person’s right to equality and respect outweighs a Christian’s belief that s/he shouldn’t have it.

    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but not all opinions are equally valid, or valuable. Hitler was of the opinion that the genocide of the Jews was a good idea, and he was perfectly entitled to that opinion, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a totally deluded and insane one.

  9. Eric, you don’t need bigotry for comedy. Comedy wasn’t enriched by jokes about the Irish being stupid and black people all smoking ganga, and it isnt enhanced by perpetuating mysoginistic views about women solely existing for the pleasure of men. Lesbians come up against this bigotry day in day out, with men seeming not to understand that not being attracted to them is not a slight on their manhood.

    The BBC says in it’s own guidelines that it should ‘never perpetuating negative steretypes.’ That is exactly what they did in this programme, and they should apologise for it.

  10. Maria is right, and the BBC is a disgrace

  11. Simon Murphy 8 Jan 2009, 7:43pm

    To anyone who is saying that gay people are overreacting to the BBC’s attitude to homophobia I’d ask you this. Why does the BBC NEVER allow denigrating shows about blak or Asian people? Perhaps we are overreacting a little but considering the double standards in operation I think it’s fair enough

  12. Well, they don’t care too much about it because the show was run again last night on BBC3

  13. @Flapjack

    I appreciate what you are trying to say and your usual thoughtfulness so I would hope that you will see the point if I say that human rights are for humans, not beliefs.

  14. James Whale, Ivan – Thanks for the feedback. I pretty much agree with everything you said.
    I think the problem arises when certain religious sects muddy the waters between equal minority representation and bigoted focus group representation. I don’t count all Christians in this, but the likes of Christian Voice along with Westboro Baptists do tend to give their fellow Christians a bad name.

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