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California Supreme Court grants review of challenges to gay marriage ban

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  1. Like mixed race marriage in the USA – same sex marriage MUST win this battle.
    If the supreme court pass the ban – this will open the door to a never ending “ping pong” situation between conservatives and liberal – and have same sex marriage valid/invalid form time to time.
    The supreme court must make an important decision, that same sex marriage is there to stay.

  2. Robert, ex-pat Brit 20 Nov 2008, 1:34pm

    Zazou….even if the Supreme Court doesn’t overturn Prop. H8, if the next administration legislates civil unions at the federal level, all of the thousands of couples who married in California, Massachusetts and Connecticut and those who married in Canada would have to have their federal rights restored, rights that automatically come with marriage. I doubt if this administration would demote marriages already performed to civil unions because even in California, those 18,000 marriages will still be recognised as such even if Prop H8 isn’t reversed. There could be a silver lining in all this as more states opt for full marriage. Connecticut has had civil unions for several years, but they yielded a paltry 2300 couples. You can expect marriage to soar now that the nugmeg state has expanded the right to marry. If and when this administration implements civil unions at the federal, we will see the same trend as we did in Connecticut. The majority of gay couples will continue to forego civil unions for marriage. The consensus of American LGBT people is for marriage as evidenced in the 50-state outcry over Prop. H8.

  3. Dermot Underwood 20 Nov 2008, 1:47pm

    Oh, dear. Another cut an paste by Robert. How kind.

    I can only hope, Robert formerly of the UK, that this “gay marriage” you seek so badly gives you some peace of mind.

    Go. Get married. Please. And perhaps the you would be so kind in not boring us all half to death with your febrile rantings.

  4. Bill Perdue 21 Nov 2008, 5:56am

    Zazou, I wouldn’t hold out much hope for the California Supremes invalidating Prop 8. The last time a question like this arose was the anti-GLBT Constitutional Amendment 2 in Colorado in the early 1990’s.

    Most LGBT constitutional lawyers think that 2 was shot down because it was so broad. It forbade “all legislative, executive, or judicial action at any level of state or local government designed to protect the status of persons based on their ‘homosexual, lesbian or bisexual orientation, conduct, practices or relationships’. It was thrown out because it clearly violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment of the federal Constitution.

    The bigots have learned since then and Prop 8 was very specific and very narrow, making it less open to challenge.

    What may help is the power of the unions, the NAACP and Latino, Asian and Pacific Islander groups who are throwing all their weight into legal challenges. And the outbreak of a wave of large, continuous and deliberately disruptive demonstrations can’t hurt. They may upset the catholic and mormon leaders and conservatives by we know from experience that judges pay attention to them.

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