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  1. Omar Kuduus 18 Aug 2008, 2:09pm

    Religion has no part in 21st century politics and government policies should reflect ALL its citizens’ interests.
    Only when it is established that sexuality is as much a fundamental rights as any other, will we be equal and the Eden sought is realised.

  2. John Bisceglia 18 Aug 2008, 4:07pm

    Why is this issue being legally controlled by a THEOCRACY?!?! I’ve just spent the last few minutes hearing 5 hetero-men on TV
    (Obama, McCain, Wolf Blitzer, et. al.) discuss my HUMAN RIGHT to
    marry the person I love. The Spiritual Arrogance alone is beyond insulting & degrading…but that is the sick part of this social dominance.

    Do Americans really think that the Exhalted Hetero-Sexual
    Marriage’s TWO SOULS are somehow MORE human and deserving
    of the legal rights & protections than the TWO SOULS found in a
    Homo-Loving Marriage? (if you caught that hyphenated distinction, ain’t it insulting?)

    Our souls are equal. Our children’s souls are equal. More and more of us will not pay into a federal system that excludes us, because it is immoral to deny our families and children civil marriage (gay tax protest).

  3. it’s a pity that their “holy” union ends with so many people divorcing, or cheating on their partners.

    Obviously god can’t hold it all together

  4. I totally agree, Omar. It’s like something from the Middle Ages. Religion should be separate from politics. More than that, it actually scares me to hear politicians from a developed country justifying their prejudices through religion. I get the impression that many of the voters lap it up too. How nice to pretend you’re all good and holy and blame your nasty bigotry on some book. Doesn’t Obama remember how the Bible was used to justify slavery decades ago?

  5. I think perhaps we need to redefine the concept of marraige/union. Solomon had 300 wives and 700 concubines )or porcupines as some grade 5’s would have it!).

    A marriage is only a marriage when they exchanges vows of commitment to one another in God’s eyes. Does it have to be any more legal than that? When did the exchange of vows become the Law of the Land? And when did the Laws of the Land become the Keeper of this sacred institution, which is not even clearly defined in the Bible? Do we need the Politicians to define who we love and declare our vows to? Can we not just leave them and their laws out of the equation? It is rather ridiculous to have them tell us who we can and cannot love. And then they want to fit this into the frameword of their laws so they can control it better? I think not!

  6. Robert, ex-pat Brit 18 Aug 2008, 7:14pm

    You don’t need a bible or any religious book of fables to define marriage or anything else. Marriage is a civil institution invented by men not some imaginary entity roaming the universe that nobody can see, feel, hear or touch.

    John, religious cultism is an evil force at the root of antigay equality legislation including marriage equality. Always has been and always will be. It has absolutely NO place in political life. I resent that Obama, McCain or any politician has to profess a religion to get elected. The U.S. I believe is the only western country where this is the norm. Odd when you consider that there is supposed to be separation of church and state, or is there? Religion is a personal choice, a lifestyle, learned behaviour if you will and as such, should be confined to the home where it belongs.

  7. Here come the times of the first two USA Ayatollahs! Glorify them!

  8. Len – take your private relationship, undefined by politicians to court when your lover dies and his family takes everything you own. Family law and family courts exist for a reason.
    Someone should be calling McCain a big fat liar too – most of those state constitutional amendments expressly forbid “people” from making those types of legal agreements.

  9. Bill Perdue, RainbowRED 19 Aug 2008, 2:58pm

    Democrats have a good chance of sweeping the elections because they worked hard and won back the title of “Best Panderer of the 2008 Election Season’ from the Republicans who’ve held it since Clinton’s bigotry dominated politics. They’ve managed a historic turnaround and now Obama has a 43% to 34% in the jesus jumper crowd.

    A quick glance at Sunday’s LA Times shows how it’s done. The Times reports that both candidates were at a forum in Lake Forest CA, in deepest, palest Orange County. At a ‘debate’ hosted by a jumper cult Obama and McCain debated same sex marriage, except as it turns out it still pigheadedly oppose our right to marry.

    As the event wore on both candidates contracted feverish cases of the ‘holier than thou’s’. But it was when Obama said he was “walking humbly with our God…I know that I don’t walk alone, and I know that if I can get myself out of the way that I can maybe carry out in some small way what he intends” that people actually began looking around for a burning bush. That’s why Obama leads McCain among christist voters 43% to 34%, according to the Barna Poll, a christist polling outfit.

    Praise the Lord! Hallelujah, etc.!

    According to the Times, “Though the candidates came down on opposite sides of the California initiative that would ban gay marriage, both stressed that they opposed same-sex marriage. Obama’s so rightwing that a whole litter of Tory MP’s endorsed him. How embarrassing for him. Obama called marriage “a sacred union,” drawing applause when he added, “God is in the mix.”

    More Hallelujahs! With jumping up and down! And clapping! And lots of and praise jesusing! And speaking in tongues!

  10. I think that really silly to fight between with dumb questions about against same sex marriage. le them have it make their happiness life.. you know that you can’t make twist down their love to break relationship. I wonder we can twist down hetrosexual break relationship? that can’t do it please let them have it and I believe there will make better encomey in the future. thank you

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