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God-fearing cop claims “blatant support” for gays makes his job too difficult

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  1. Sack him. His job is to uphold the laws of England created through parliament, not quote the bible. Sack him.

  2. If this man wants to dislike homosexuality, he has every right to.

    What he does not have a right to do, is to openly preach those views in his workplace where he is supposed to uphold the law and not any personal beliefs that conflict with that duty.

    Nobody is asking him to go on a gay rights march and he would be well within his rights to tell them to sod off if they did. Likewise, if he doesn’t want to wear a pink ribbon, he shouldn’t have to.

    But tolerance is a 2 way street. If he doesn’t approve of homosexuality, he should simply keep his mouth shut at work.

  3. When, oh when, will our legal system put its priorities in order? Religion is a CHOSEN belief system, and people change their beliefs regularly: C of E to Roman Catholicism to Buddhism to Judaism to Islam. When will people understand that being homosexual isn’t a CHOICE? The law should not give rights to belief systems. It SHOULD protect the rights of all individuals who do not choose to be born the way they are. That this stupid, politician should go un-prosecuted for what she has said is staggering. Replace “homosexual” with “black” and she’d be in court.

  4. Stephen warwick 22 Jul 2008, 9:27am

    police forces have become obsessed with inclusiveness at the cost of Christian morals and beliefs.

    All police forces say that they will not tolerate homophobic behaviour. Do they also deal with internal complaints as they would others – as hate crime? If not, perhaps inferior sanctions are then applied to wrongdoers.

  5. Carola Towle 22 Jul 2008, 10:52am

    The article compares this case to Lilian Ladele’s. A more direct comparison is the 2006 case where the employment tribunal rejected a claim of religious discrimination.

    Mr T Apelogun-Gabriels lost his claim when Lambeth dismissed him for distributing homophobic leaflets in the workplace. He said he was discriminated against because he was a Christian. The tribunal disagreed and said a non-Christian who distributed similar literature would have been treated in a similar fashion and that it was the complainant’s conduct in distributing homophobic literature which was the reason for his dismissal, not his religious beliefs. UNISON welcomed this ruling and tries to make sure people know about it!

  6. He should transfer to the Devon & Cornwall constabulary.

    They (under the command of Chief Consable Otter) would welcome a homophobic police officer with open arms (and probably give him a promotion for his homophobic stance) given the gay experience of hostile & homophobic policing attitudes in Cornwall against gay people.

  7. These religious-gay workplace clashes of late bring up to things:
    1. Christianity or any religion is not synonymous with being anti gay. What one chooses to make of their own beliefs is the issue. There are many religious people who have no issue with gay people.
    This has to be the precident, but it does bring to bare the fact that people like the Pope, or churches with supreme doctrine makers, go unchallenged by the law, where their congregation do. (Try challenging the Pope who was self-appointed as the direct voice of GOD alone on the earth – such a conceit – )
    2. The other problem is the issue of forcing what was formerly seen as politcal agendas in the workplace. This is a fine line. It’s about communicating an issue, it’s about education, articulating to people WHY it needs support, what gains will come from it, what it is they are partaking in.
    I think there is a problem where the presence of such change-of-perspective learning curves can be construed in threatening ways. It’s important that they are introduced into the working environment with sensitivity. Not everyone wants to celebrate pride openly, not even gay people. People are entitled to postively support a sentiment any way they wish – they shouldn’t feel they have to wear a badge to prove themselves. If people exist in the workplace who have descriminatory feelings, then even more so, the sensitivity of the equality campaing must be of the utmost standard. This is a skill and left in the hands who don’t know about such things, it’s no wonder conflict arises.

  8. I’m not sure I agree with you, Dave. I think religious faith and sexual orientation are pretty comparable when it comes to “choice.” I don’t think (in my experience) people choose their faith any more than they choose which gender they are attracted to, but they do choose how to express their faith – just as people of all sexual orientations choose how to act upon their sexual attraction. So really, I think there are more similarities between the two than you might think. It should be in the interests of all people to ensure that the rights of religious people and LGBT people are protected in so far as possible.

    In this case, the litmus test should be pretty simple: do PC Cogman’s views interfere with his ability to carry out his job? While refusing to wear a pink ribbon is – IMHO – pretty reasonable (pink is not my colour), it sounds like there are bigger issues here regarding PC Cogman’s relationship with his colleagues. If these cannot be resolved, I don’t really see how he can remain in his position.

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