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Nigerian Archbishop claims there is “no hope” for Anglican communion

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  1. Robert, ex-pat Brit 20 Jun 2008, 6:11pm

    Good, let the schism occur, long overdue and a weakening of the C o E, a very positive that I support.

  2. Robert, ex-pat Brit 20 Jun 2008, 6:12pm

    “a very positive step that I support”, I meant to have said in the previous posting.

  3. Edward in Los Angeles 20 Jun 2008, 6:17pm

    What is this so-called archbishop blathering on about? Why doesn’t he just come out and say — “I am a bigot”?

  4. I cannot be the only Anglican who will greet ++Akinola’s pronouncement with some measure of relief as well as regret. Regret because schism, alienation, and dissention are clearly foreign to the loving unity proper to the Church as Christ’s body and his bride, and also because any division will perhaps place LGBT Anglicans in the ‘Global South’ in an even more difficult position than they currently endure. But we also feel relief because the attempt by the Nigerian, Ugandan, and Australian bishops to make the Anglican communion something it is not – a narrow, intolerant, and rigid sect – seems to be coming rapidly unstuck. The Anglican Church has not (as some of us feared) rejected the Episcopalians and their ‘liberal’ allies, and so those who are unwilling to live in a Church which does not condemn liberals feel they have to leave. Of course, we are not happy to see them go, but we are very happy that their project to demolish the latitudinarian and liberal traditions of the Church of England and its daughter churches appears to have been defeated.

    Now comes an even greater challenge, however: if there is to be any kind of formal schism (as opposed to the Mexican stand-off that currently prevails), how will it be carried out? It is not as simple as it might seem, because there are liberal parishes in Nigeria, and conservative dioceses (and liberal parishes in conservative dioceses) in California. Any split is likely to be very, very messy indeed, and it seems to me that all but a small number of ‘Southern’ dioceses (presumably led by ++Akinola) are likely to try to avoid it at all costs, even if it means remaining in an uncomfortable communion.

  5. Edward in Los Angeles 21 Jun 2008, 3:59am

    You know, rj (the commenter before me) years ago we had in America what was known the Civil War…in which slavery – the civil rights issue of it’s time – was abolished. It was messy too. But the nation prevailed, and new generations got over it. I wouldn’t worry too much about a split in the Anglican church. Like I’ve said before, hatred always goes out of style. The Anglican church will survive…if it’s meant to–

  6. Robert, ex-pat Brit 21 Jun 2008, 11:12am

    Edward, I totally concur. Let the split happen, its long overdue. Too much “dead wood” and dead is always negative. Akinola and his fan club are the epitomy of it. Let him continue. The Anglican church will survive with or without these bigots, if as you say, “it’s meant to” though I doubt its power will have strengthened, and that’s a good thing too.

  7. Recommended reading……..; The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

  8. I wonder who will fund this new church?

  9. Robert, ex-pat Brit 21 Jun 2008, 5:40pm

    apYrs, indirectly you and I will from taxes paid to support the C of E as the state religion. A bone of contention with me. Why should we have to support any religion through taxes? These parasites who run the church are tax-exempt, yet they get to have a say in the kind of equality rights we win. Something very wrong with that picture if you ask me. I’m all for disestablishing state religion and the funding of all of them. After all, there’s is a choice, nobody forces them to believe or worship, as such should be construed as a luxury item and subject to taxation.

  10. Martin Davies 23 Jun 2008, 10:10am

    Oh, who shall rid this world of these Neanderthal men?

    The bible also says man shall have one woman, but when your challenged on that in Africa you have the pathetic excuse ‘oh, well to have more than one partner is part of our culture’.

    Absolute total garbage.

    The press in general would do the world better justice in refusing to give oppressive groups and leaders publicity, in order to minimise their ability to spread their insipid prejudice. May the Anglican Communion break up and may those who deem themselves so pure return to heir lands and crawl back under their rocks. The rest of us can then refocus, and put our hard earned cash into legitimate charitable works. Yes, that’s right Akinola, no communion = no cash, suck on that…

    It’s just as bad in the English C of E diocese, with hypocritical Bishops who say one thing in private and another in public – absolute garbage – the lot of them and more sadness that some goblin like idiots in Whitehall actually authorised these men of the church as fit for office as Bishops to the Crown. What better example to the young of this ‘civilised’ society that Church is a ‘pestulance’ of the past to be terminated or at best ignored.
    Martin Davies, Gay Clergy Spouse

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