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Why not legalize same-sex “marriage”?
Who could it possibly hurt?
Children and the rest of society!
That’s the conclusion of David Blankenhorn, who is anything but an anti-homosexual “bigot.” He is a life-long, pro-homosexual, liberal democrat who disagrees with the Bible’s prohibitions against homosexual behavior.
Despite this, Blankenhorn makes a powerful case against Same-Sex “marriage”.
We can see the connection between same-sex “marriage” and illegitimacy in Scandinavian countries.
Norway, for example, has had de-facto same-sex “marriage” since the early nineties.
In Nordland, the most liberal county of Norway, where they fly “gay” rainbow flags over their churches, out-of-wedlock births have soared—more than 80 percent of women giving birth for the first time, and nearly 70 percent of all children, are born out of wedlock! Across all of Norway, illegitimacy rose from 39 percent to 50 percent in the first decade of same-sex “marriage”.
Confusing piece of journalism.
First the article states: “The new legislation, while not full equal marriage, amends the definition of civil marriage in Norway to make it gender neutral”
But later on the article states: “Norway [...] joins Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands, South Africa and Canada in granting gay people full marriage rights.”
So, what is it. Full equal marriage or not full equal marriage?
What he fails to explain, however, is how so-called “illegitimate” births in themselves could be a measurement of degrading “morale” in society. Most children in Norway as a whole are born from cohabiting parents, which in Norway is a common and accepted (outside of conservative religious societies) way of organising relationships. And only in matters of the church is Nordland among Norway’s most LGBT liberal counties.
David Blankenhorn is founder and president of the Institute for American Values. So he couldn’t possibly be an anti-homosexual “bigot” !
Why do christists and others cultists, right-wingers and all the conservatives who pigheadedly oppose same sex marriage equality deny that they’re bigots? They’re not fooling anyone.
Those statistics on birthing in Nordland indicate that they’re well on their way to leaving religious superstition in the gutter where it belongs and becoming quite civilized.
Tying same sex marriage equality to the right to adopt is an important step forward and one we ought to keep in mind as the ongoing battle for marriage equality is carried into new arenas.
Oh, and by the way; it *IS* full, equal marriage. :D
Johan, I see the confusion, but Norway, as I had predicted months ago, now offers full marriage equality. Don’t forget, it had civil partnerships in the 90s long before we had any concept of equal marriage rights in the UK. The Norwegian parliament has seen fit that separate and segregated is never equal, rightly so. Sweden will soon follow suit, possibly Denmark, mark my words. Unfortunately, UK gay couples who so wish, and they are not in the majority as others here have claimed in the past, will NEVER enjoy that right. Their fellow gay brothers and sisters who negotiated civil partnerships with the government to gain almost all of the rights of marriage never took their rights into consideration, they were discarded, forgotten on the premise that marriage with all of its socalled “negative connotations associated with straights” wouldn’t be an option and would face having no rights at all, arguable at best as has now been proved by Norway and the five other more progressive countries. That will never change, sadly.
Drawing a correlation between the legalisation of gay unions/gay marriage and the number of children born out of wedlock is ludicrous. I live in Norway and many of my friends choose not to get married, but have children with their co-habitating partners. They see the two as separate issues and that is their choice.
Thanks Silje and Robert. I think the article is corrected/edited now.
Thanks Silje and Robert. I think the article is already edited/corrected.
Robinson’s comment is absolutely CHOCK FULL of lies. First of all NOTHING that he said about David Blankenhorn is true. Blankenhorn is just another of the homophobes who try to claim that they’re not homophobes because their homophobia is backed up by “science” or “tradition” or “religion”. Nothing more.
Secondly, and the most OBVIOUS bogus statement by Robinson, Norway has JUST NOW passed “gay marriage” and it hasn’t even taken effect yet so how the hell can they have caused a rise in the illegitimate birth rate? Furthermore, Norway’s marriage rates and birth-within-marriage rates had been on the decline long before the country established civil unions for gay couples. The rates have actually bottomed out and havee actually gone up since the implementation of gay civil unions but let’s not cloud the issue with the facts.
Blankenhorn and Robinson have hijacked a study, and as anti-gay and anti marriage equality groups (like Focus on the Family) OFTEN do, they have twisted and misrepresented the findings to support their own preconceived purposes. The group that conducted this study has PUBLICLY denounced the misuse and misinterpretation of their work and have gone to the trouble to give a press release correcting the misrepresentations. THEY concluded that civil unions for gay couples had had no negative affect on straight families and that they had had an overall positive affect on family life in the country. They also concluded that marriage equality would be a positive move.
Robinson, if your argument is strong and valid then why do you and so many others repeatedly feel the need to bolster your arguments with lies, misrepresentations and obfuscations?
Robinson and people like him are a dime a dozen in America. They are usually paid staff of Focus on the Family who troll gay and liberal sites to spread their anti-gay and often fundamentalist Christian propaganda. They usually do it covertly by acting as if they are gay or generally gay supportive to give the impression that they are gay people who don’t believe in gay rights so therefore it’s a more valid argument. Too bad for them that their cut and paste talking points and their very recognizable style always gives them away.
Zeke, I totally concur!
Well said Zeke. Still, while the fight is far from won for us, its reassuring that the more feverish these freaks get in Europe, the more its evident that their power is falling away from them. Robinson is just another powerless so-called “christian” blustering on a gay site because the pews of his church are emptying.
And as if he had even a snowballs chance in hell of converting any of us. We’re laughing at him.
Robinson would do well to remind himself that Jesus himself would undoubtedly shun people like him.