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Millivres to continue to sell bareback porn titles

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  1. Having just watched BBC2’s newsnight, it turns out that the Pink Paper is part of the same, immorally irresponsible gay media stable – Millivres Prowler Ltd. – that churns out barebacking porn, no doubt with the fawning approval of the HIV charities who are now endorsing underground sex clubs with their unenforceable and unpoliceable “code of good practice” seal of approval (Play Zone). You really couldn’t make this shit up!! Is there a conspiracy by the gay mafia to have the entire community infected with HIV? Please don’t tell me that these people who wield so much power and influence over over our sexual health are just pig ignorant. No, I detect something altogether more sinister; a conspiracy by damaged, self-loathing gay men who manipulate their way into these positions in order to project and inflict their demons – and HIV – on the rest of us. Pink Paper has now lost all respect and credibility, and I sincerely hope the community will flush it down the pan where it belongs… PR

  2. In the early 90s I attended a Humanist meeting in Red Lion Square (Holborn, London) at which the guest speaker for the evening was the then top-dog at Millivres. His argument for the night was that good wholesome pornography is a good thing for society. In the question-and-answer session following his talk one of the members of the society suggested to him that pornography was a form of brainwashing and familiarization that sets up sexual expectations that are generally unrealistic and or dangerous, in terms of developing an insatiable sexual appetite and/or contracting STDs. The Millivres chappie then completely derided the suggestion by stating that Millivres would never associate itself with “sleazy pornography” and that only “sleazy pornography” gave reason for concern. Well, 15 years down the line, there is now shelf after shelf of evidence proving that Millivres has indeed been involved in the manufacture and promotion of “sleazy pornography”.

  3. I agree! I was surprised when Prowler started flogging Buddy magazine that features bareback. Gay Times and Attitude are also happy to promote bareback in the back of their magazines. It’s got to stop and I hope that the BBC for once has done something positive for the gay community by getting this shit off the shelves.Now come on Prowler stop selling Buddy and distance yourself from Icreme and I don’t just mean till this blows over I mean permanently!!But I can’t see it happening. There is still a photo of bareback on the Icreme site and I can’t see them stopping making it as there are a lot of gay men with such little regard for others and are demanding to see it!!!

  4. Dominick J. DiNoto 6 Mar 2008, 6:01pm

    Pornography is just what is. It’s dirty and erotic and it’s there to stimulate the mind for those who need it. The only bad pornogrphy are those selling child porn AND using children to do it whether it’s straight or gay.Bareback, whether straight or gay, is in very bad taste and sends the wrong message.

  5. Personally, Dominick,I find that all pornography – even the vanilla straight stuff I can watch any night of the week on UK Freeview! – rouses the worst in me, the devil in me. It distracts me from better things, more creative things, and tempts me to consider cheap pleasures! I always wish I hadn’t gone there. It’s a waste of precious time and precious life.That lad last night on BBC Newsnight was a pretty good example of this. He contracted the HIV virus while doing porn. The interviewer asked him if he would stop. He said he wouldn’t, it is what makes him happy, doing porn. Then the interviewer suggested that society shouldn’t have to pay thousands of pounds for his drug treatments per year . . . and he grinned and squirmed in embarrassment and said, “I’m sorry”. It was pathetic. People like him need rescuing from the pull of porno.

  6. Matt Blewett 6 Mar 2008, 7:28pm

    Gosh, I’ve never seen such queer bashing from gay guys! The stench of hypocrisy sickens me. Newsnight sickens me. Their report even ADMITTED that MOST heterosexual porn NEVER used condoms, but lets bash the gays instead; ‘cos about 40% of our porn IS with condoms. THAT IS NEARLY HALF!! There ARE heterosexual porn performers who catch HIV in their films, but this goes unreported and disregarded by newsnight who would rather endorse straight=safe, gay=dangerous by focusing on a rather stupid young man. Challenge newsnight BEFORE you beat yourselves up!

  7. Matt, stop beating the HIV victim drumbeat. The myth that HIV is a problem that affects indigenous heterosexuals and homosexuals in equal measure in the UK has long been torn apart. Barebacking in gay porn IS a major scandal; barebacking in straight porn isn’t. How can it be?The naivety of the HIV kid on last night’s Newsnight – weaned on PC HIV campaigns that have taught him that HIV is no big deal – was in equal parts harrowing and horrific; and a potent a symbol of the failure and negligence of the leading HIV charities who have abused our trust and faith in them to protect our community’s health. It really is time for the PC fascists at the helm of the THT and GMFA who refuse to change their destructive ways – both professionally and in private – to be exposed in the full glare of the mainstream press, and for the gay press to blacklist their press releases and cut off the oxygen they have depended upon for so long to peddle their disease spreading, PC-driven policies and agendas.

  8. This isn’t a zero sum game. Sure the kid was naive but he’s paid a very heavy price. Ok, so he wasn’t forced into making a barback porn movie, but those making and selling these movies bear a heavy responsibility too. Presumably, they’re older and more experienced than those who star in their films, they know about HIV yet were still willing to exploit youngsters need/greed/ignorance or whatever to make their money. Indeed, it appears they may not even have checked these “certificates” 100% of the time.In any case, it was my understanding (and correct me if I’m wrong) that no HIV test is conclusive until 3 months after exposure. So you could have a negative certificate to flash about yet be in the process of converting. Not only that, but during those 3 months, you may actually be more infectious than after a 3 month postive test when your body is working to suppress the virus.

  9. Sister Mary Clarence 7 Mar 2008, 12:02am

    “In any case, it was my understanding (and correct me if I’m wrong) that no HIV test is conclusive until 3 months after exposure”.Absolutely right Luke, and if a little more resource was invested in teaching young people and the many millions of migrants coming to live in this country for a better life about the dangers and consequences of contracting HIV, paying particular attention to how you contract it and what constitutes risk taking behaviour, rather than as has been mentioned these f**ked up campaigns about where to go having spent the weekend in a sling getting loaded by anything with a pulse, this guy might known that.Clearly the guy’s employer Icreme will have to show that it did everything it could you ensure the safety of its employees. Its cunning plan regarding regular testing and not tolerating anyone who acts in an unsafe way in their private lives, doesn’t seem to be that cunning or more importantly that failsafe to me. They seem to be on a bit of a hiding to nothing trying to make out that THEY thought it was safe. Its all too believable that these days some dumb young kid might not understand the reality of the danger of HIV infection, but I struggle with the concept that those at the other end of the cameras didn’t.There are no doubt tens of thousands of other cases that won’t make the press where some young kids will put himself in mortal danger for want of a bit of relatively straightforward information about HIV.The film company will probably end up in court. I’d like to see THT and GMFA in the dock with them as well, for the irresponsible way that are frittering away budgets on PEP campaigns that could have more properly been used education people not to get into situations were they need PEP.

  10. Sister Mary Clarence 7 Mar 2008, 9:26am

    Hallelujah Phil! I though it was just me.

  11. Sister Mary, Luke Phil – you hit the nail on the head. I’ve seen video preview adverts for this kind of appalling stuff on gay websites in Holland. We have health warnings on cigarettes. There should be health warnings on these videos, showing graphic detail about what the consequences of STDs / HIV infection can be. And Phil, as for the health worker who was shouted down in Nottingham – this is disgraceful. It’s really important that people who take on the spin doctors learn to get aggressive. Peoples lives depend on it. NEVER let people finish your sentence is a golden rule! (I suggest the Boyz columnist take inspiration from this guy next time he goes into the lion’s den: )

  12. We stopped our subscription to GayTimes when they ran an article over a year ago that seemed to feature bareback as just another trend in gay society.When my partner wrote to them, their reply was along the lines that they were just reporting what was happening.The part they seem to miss is the fact that by “just reporting” on one part and not highlighting the dangers of bareback, they were essentially making it out to seem cool. And they don’t seem to care about the influence they could have on impressionable minds.

  13. Blimey, Phil! You’ve just said what I’ve been saying about this issue for years now! There has been a development of a sort of clique within the field of gay men’s sexual health that bullies anyone who disagrees with them. It was a sort of political correctness, a sort of preciousness that developed. And, as usual, their arrogance finally caught them out.

  14. I think the logical next step with regard to the bareback video assault (and let’s be in no doubt that that is what it is; an assault on the majority of decent, self-respecting gay men who are tarnished by association with this scourge), is to hit the perpetrators of this craze where it will hurt them – in the pocket. Stop buying GT and AXM, don’t pick up Pink Paper, and as for the Prowler store, the place should be picketed and leaflets handed out informing people how its head company is trading off the spread of HIV. Maybe the NHS will want to invoice this sordid company the cost of the extra HIV medication prescriptions its recklessness is causing?As for the kids whose lives have and are still being placed in danger for the sake of profit, why stop at Newsnight? Why not just go all the way to the High Court? Let’s see Millivres in the dock, alongside Matthew Hodson of GMFA, who pretends to head a gay men’s health charity that protects the community’s health but which is really anything but. A year ago, in response to the rapid tide of bareback porn and how GMFA would be responding to it, he said, and I quote: “I don’t like the thought of censorship, particularly that which discriminates against gay men.” Substitute “gay men” with “HIV” and there you have it really. Some may argue that it was the performers’ choce to appear in these films which are tantamount to gay snuff movies in slo-mo, but the point is they were enticed into these films and didn’t consider the real implications because they were weaned on HIV campaigns that make HIV seem sexy and no more of a nuisance than catching a cold. There is a culture of extreme ignorance around HIV where today’s under-25s are concerned; one that has been systematically perperated by charities whose core income is in the services it provides to those with HIV, and who therefore have no incentive to get tough with the virus but every incentive to sustain and perpetuate policies that encourage its spread.With ‘Play Zone’ now in full swing legitimising unsafe sex venues under a similarly false pretext (i.e. the provision of condoms, etc., that will be little more than window dressing to allow promiscuous men to carry on spreading HIV and STIs with the endorsement of the THT) and PEP continuing to be flogged to the same core group of repeat users on internet sex sites, it is time we said enough. The gay press must now start leading the way instead of providing an instant platform for the likes of THT and GMFA to, effectively, facilitate further the spread of HIV.

  15. I see nothing on the Icreme website that shows they are stopping producing bareback. It still says the opposite, in fact, that most porn is produced without condoms.

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