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  1. Robert, ex-pat Brit 23 Nov 2007, 3:26pm

    It is very disturbing that HIV is increasing. With the advent of new drug cocktails, our community seems to be lulling itself into a false sense of security, that HIV is a chronic, manageable disease. Who on earth in their right mind would want to have unprotected sex in this day and age, both gay and straight? Is it worth the risk? More preventive education should be high on the list of government health authorities’ agenda in halting the spread of this fatal disease.

  2. Dominick J. 23 Nov 2007, 5:38pm

    This is the end result of advocating Abstinence ONLY folks. It does Not work and there needs to be every bit of information out there to be taught in sex education to everybody especially Teens in school!

  3. Thomas in London 23 Nov 2007, 11:34pm

    To Dominick J…I agree there needs to be full info on the reality of sexual health and HIV/AIDS in Personal and Social Education classes in school. There has never been an Abstinence only approach to HIV/AIDS in schools, certainly not in the UK as far as I am aware. There is a problem that many gay men have identified, that health promotion from the NHS, THT etc. has presented HIV/AIDS to young gay men as taking a pill or two and getting on with your life and nothing more. Sexual health promotion has consistently shown images of healthy looking, fit, attractive gay men in a happy, loving couple, sending the message that HIV/AIDS is not the massive health and life issue it is, completely omitting the reality of the horrendous side effects from medication etc. I am by no means the only one to point this out. Perhaps it is time to show the reality of living with HIV/AIDS to stop more gay men becoming infected. Isn’t that what matters?

  4. Dominick J. 24 Nov 2007, 1:36am

    Hi Thomas in London,You are absolutely right. Abstinence only is only happening here in the States under the Bush regime and of course wherever the Religious Right has their mits on, like in Africa and other places overseas.My partner and I subscribe to “OUT” magazine and they are always showing healthy, beefy looking young men to middle age men while advertising all kinds of AIDS meds. That is a gross bit of misinformation going out to all the men AND women of our community and the straight community as well, that if you get AIDS it’ll be easy to control with a Pill! WRONG!! All these magazines do is help the Drug companies who peddle AIDS products and they do nothing to help their own community. It seems to me it’s Money all the way around. With the loser being the poor disillusioned folks who come down with Aids.

  5. Sister Mary Clarence 24 Nov 2007, 2:26am

    I certainly think the HIV/AIDS awareness messages we are seeing these days are to soft. I grew up with the tombstone and iceberg ads making it very clear that AIDS equals death.HIV is now considered to be a ‘chronic’ illness, like there is some possibility that it will not result in an untimely death. Combination therapy or not, despite the best efforts of science, as things currently stand, if you contract HIV, this will lead on to AIDS and this will directly or indirectly lead to your death.I see no good in beating around the bush and giving any other sort of message to people. The current message is not getting through to young people and it is not reaching the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of gay people arriving from Eastern Europe, who in my view are like lambs to the slaughter at the moment, in London at least.It is far cheaper to prevent than treat and of course the better the treatments, the longer we live and the greater the expense.I’m sure the drug companies are laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of the government’s utter stupidity.

  6. Tom Forrest 24 Nov 2007, 11:07am

    Probably the best cure for HIV/AIDS would be to withdraw all treatment to those whose lifestyle choice is the main cause. Our health services require the capital wasted on those who continue after diagnosis to pursue their lifestyle.

  7. Robert, ex-pat Brit 24 Nov 2007, 1:13pm

    The problem with our own community is that we seem to regard HIV as no longer being a death sentence and it seems that governments are folowing suit. In fact, during my Act Up activist days I would often hear doctors say just that, once the new drug cocktails came into use. It seems to me the medical profession and drug companies need to come clean and stop peddling false information. Anyone who contracts this virus for the most part is contracting a FATAL disease….HIV=AIDS=DEATH. There is NO cure and the sooner Gay magazines, drug companies and doctors alike deal with that and stop the indifference for the sake of corporate greed, then maybe we’ll see lower rates of infection. First and foremost, HIV prevention education must be mandatory on all curricula in every school as well as mandatory condom distribution for those who request them with or without parental consent. Its about time societies woke up to the reality that their children ARE having sex at a far younger age than my generation.

  8. Robert, ex-pat Brit 24 Nov 2007, 1:15pm

    Tom Forrest, whoever you are, what if the shoe were on the other foot and HIV/AIDS were overwhelmingly an heterosexually transmitted disease (in Africa and other emerging nations it is by the way). What would you then be spewing on this website? Any Any answer to that?Friends, I think we have yet another Hank in our midst.

  9. Dominick J. 24 Nov 2007, 4:28pm

    Tom Forrest says: Probably the best cure for HIV/AIDS would be to withdraw all treatment to those whose lifestyle choice is the main cause. Our health services require the capital wasted on those who continue after diagnosis to pursue their lifestyle.************************************Dominick: Tom, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt here a little lattitude, simply because I know of a lot of Lung Cancer patients who continuously can’t wait for their treatment to be over to go outside and light up a cigarette. They refuse to quit smoking all the while they are dyng from Lung Cancer.Having said that—Now that’s a life style (smoking). Being Gay is not a life style and has nothing to do with getting HIV/AIDS.

  10. Robert, ex-pat Brit 24 Nov 2007, 5:29pm

    Dominick, you’re absolutely right about that. As I said to Tom in an earlier posting, how would he respond if HIV/AIDS were overwhelmingly heterosexually transmitted in western societies? Would he have come here to air his homophobia let alone his bigotry and hypocrisy?Lifestyle in the homophobe’s world implies “choice”. Whereas, since straights apparently don’t choose their orientation as they claim they don’t, they are exempt I suppose. Lifestyle to them also implies something less than theirs. The doublestandards are obvious and is part of the republican agenda, to denigrate and justify discrimination, hatred and intolerance.

  11. Tom Forrest 25 Nov 2007, 7:43am

    Compare Smoking to Homosexuality? have a look at , some good comparisons here.

  12. Sister Mary Clarence 25 Nov 2007, 11:00am

    Tom, please, please tell me that you have not reproduced and are not bringing children up.

  13. Well, Tom, a cigarette is a lot like you religious types, isn’t it? Nothing more then a quiet puff that makes more smoke than fire, and ultimately is just a bad habit.Now, Tom why don’t you run along and light up a few cigarettes of your own. With a bit of luck God will grace you with lung cancer and grace us with your shortened life, there’s a good boy.

  14. “Friends, I think we have yet another Hank in our midst.”Hey Robert, you just might be right there. Did you have a look at this site? Oh. My. God. Its fantastic! Its like reading the demented ramblings of a lunatic. Its amazingly similar, if not identical, the sort of rubbish that degenerate Hank spouts, I think you may be on to something about Tom and Hank being too alike. Perhaps even the same.Well, Tom. I read your site. And yes, you are right. I’ll come clean. I recruit young people into the folds of homosexuality. We all do. There, I’ve said it. Its all I do with my spare time. So far to date I have recruited 347 young people. It is soooo simple, Tom, I just walk up to them and touch their foreheads, saying “The power of homosexuality compels you!”, and BLAM! They’re gay. My god, its so frickin easy! The whole neighbourhood is now full of gay kids, all committing sodomy and stuff. I’m in the middle of teaching them all the homosexual agenda… but its quite complicated because its full of contradiction and paranoia, but we’ll get there. Its done wonders for the neighbourhood:- no unmarried children, cleaner kids who take great pride in their appearance, super tea parties… although I will admit the tea parties can go on into the wee hours, but hey, that’s what you get with queers, the little buggers! I think there might be a few more breeder kids around, but I’ll get them someday. No hurry, eh, Tom? By my calculations, if one homosexual touches one one straight kid and turns him queer with their diabolical powers, then we will have a world only populated by queers in, oh, roughly 5 months. Victoria ero mei!

  15. Robert, ex-pat Brit 25 Nov 2007, 1:35pm

    William, yes I did take a look at it, truly amazing. Methinks Tom and Hank may be one and the same or partners in hate, self-loathing partners at that. I bet they haven’t had a hot date in years with some hunky number, assuming they could ever attract one. What a sad commentary that they have to come to a gay website to get their jollies. All they have done is entertain and regale us. Pathetic yet very amusing.

  16. Malcolm Lidbury 25 Nov 2007, 7:38pm

    Hardly surprising young bi/STR8/gay people are not getting the health messege. Our local gay club in Cornwall has NO health info for young people and you are joking if you think Cornwall Education Dept. is doing Anything positive through schools and colleges on gay health.In Cornwall when 16/17yr old gay/bi youths were directed by an employer to the local GU clinic for professional health advice and Hep inocculations in work time. The Cornwall police tried to prosecute the employer for taking the students to the GU Clinic, as ‘Sexual Grooming’.I kid you not, so deeply ingrained is the HOMOPHOBIC culture in the Cornwall police force. NB: The very same Cornwall DC police officer thought ‘The Birdcage’ cert 15, yes, the comedy starring Robin Williams, was a GAY PORN film which could be used for ‘Sexual Grooming’ of 16/17 yr old males. Seriously!Likewise the same DC police officer tried to prosecute regarding a pair of tesco novelty xmas boxer shorts and a novelty joke willy keyring as being ‘Sexual Grooming’. The gifts were choosen by a 16yr old gay youth for his 17yr old bisexual boyfriend….And THAT is why young people are not getting the Health messege, because of IGNORANT HOMOPHOBIC persons in institutions such as so many police officers in Cornwall.

  17. Robert, ex-pat Brit 25 Nov 2007, 8:29pm

    Malcolm, that is very disturbing indeed. Its clear not enough is being done and I think that is apt for most of the country. Its a very very serious health issue and the government needs to take it seriously. I’ll say this again and I know I’ll get flack for it, but had this been primarily a heterosexual disease in our country, we would have seen a very different response. There is much more work to do beyond any equality laws. The battle is far from over by a long shot.

  18. Malcolm, if you are involved in sexual grooming of teenagers, I really think it is something you should stop. I notice you regularly bring it up in your comments and I think its a real breach of trust.

  19. Dominick J. 27 Nov 2007, 4:23pm

    TOM Says: Compare Smoking to Homosexuality? Tom Forrest | 11.25.07 – 7:43 am |**************************************But my comment was in referrence to this post of yours Tom:”Probably the best cure for HIV/AIDS would be to withdraw all treatment to those whose lifestyle choice is the main cause. Our health services require the capital wasted on those who continue after diagnosis to pursue their lifestyle.”Tom Forrest | 11.24.07 – 11:07 am *************************************Dominick: Tom if you had read, well actually if you could comprehend what I wrote, in my post, I wasn’t comparing Smoking to homosexuality.You were referencing a halt to treatment and I was saying we don’t stop those with lung cancer from smoking OR stop their treatment. That was the comparison. not “homosexuals”

  20. William - Dublin 27 Nov 2007, 5:31pm

    Fantastic work there Kate, we can never have enough of your insightful cut’n’paste comments so you can advertise a third rate site.

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