So much for the Christian spirit of love and tolerance. Clearly, Rowan Williams has displayed classic homophobia and is bowing to Akinola’s cult of hatred. Ghandhi had it right when he said of Christianity…”I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians who are so unlike their Christ”. Hypocrisy in the C of E is as mindboggling as that of the RC Church. Robert, ex-pat Brit.
have you ever actually read your bible
have you ever actually read your bibleAnonymous —yes i have and it says nothing about homosexuality.perhaps your translation dosn’t take into account the ungenderd language used in the much loved ‘we hate queers’ passages (ie. there is no male and female so therefore no possibility that the passages could critisise men sleeping with men.)Have YOU read your bible?
The bible also has many unpleasant quotes that target heterosexuals, such as the following:Adultery is forbidden, while polygamy is permitted;A man may kill his wife on grounds of adultery;A man may kill his children for being disrespectful;Menstruating women (women having an “issue” of blood) are supposed to be separated from their husbands and banished from the community until they are clean again;The eating of shellfish is forbidden as is the shaving of one’s bear;If you are offended by what you see, you are supposed to pluck your eye out;Similary, you are supposed to chop off your hand is it has committed any wrongdoing…Yet….the religious bigots who espouse to be Christians, totally ignore all of that, but conveniently produce one scant, questionable reference in Leviticus condemning us, words that not even Jesus Christ uttered. They use that one reference to justify their discrimation against us and its at the root of the homophobia surrounding marriage equality and the delivery of goods and services, nothing more. Its religious bigotry of the worst kind and hypocrisy at the highest level.Robert, ex-pat Brit.
Ooops, a typo in my previous comment…regarind the shaving of one’s bear…I meant to have said “beard”. sorry.Robert, ex-pat Brit.
To Robert, This is what the Bible says, (believe it or not):have you not heard? The creator made them male and female. Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave unto his wife, and the two shall become one. What therefore God has joined together, let no one put asunder. Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor adulterers, nor those who practice homosexuality,…nor revilers,…will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified..’
Nike, with respect, you can believe what you want, that is your right, but nowhere does Jesus Christ condemn homosexuality. You’ve not addressed the verses I quoted in another post. If you claim to believe in the scriptures, then you MUST believe in everything scripture says. You can’t have it both ways and you can’t cherry-pick those parts that suit your own agenda to selectively single out Gay and Lesbian people and deny us full equality. Why is it you and other bigots deliberately select one quote from Leviticus to justify yours and your ilk’s moral superiority? By what authority. Your not your socalled God and you don’t speak for God nor for anyone. Sounds pretty arrogant to me, another sin that is condemned in the bible I might add. None of you seem to practice what you claim to preach let alone live by everything that is written in scripture. Nothing more than bigotry, hypocrisy and mass hysteria. Remember, judge not and ye shall not be judged. Seems that the moral religious right wingnuts have forgotten what being a Christian is all about. You’re a dieing breed, you’re losing power and influence and nobody is buying into wedge issues anymore. They tried it back in 2004 in the U.S. elections, but now its all fired back on them, the public isn’t buying any of it.
Yea but “He who is persecuted for the sake of justice shall inherit the kingdom of god” tells a different story to what Nike said there…and d’you know Rowan Williams was the only religious leader that I didnt feel sick to look at.
to the bigots posing as Christians:I put paid to your quoting of scripture (or not quoting, to be exact) and you quote something unconected to sexuality, something that could relate to the world f*cking cup being on (don’t partners find themselfs torn assunder from their loved ones then?)If this wasn’t so frightening it would be funny.
Very f**cking inclusive of that bigotted c**t Williamson not to invite the Bishop of New Hampshire. Fairly clear which side of the fence the f**king a**ehole is sitting one.Looks like he’s no better than that c**t from Nigeria whose causing all the s**t.The guy is an utter w**ker and I very much hope he burns in hell with all the d**k brained f**kwits that think they are contributing anything to society by persistently quoting from the bible in support of their small minded arguments against homosexuality.
Is it surprising that the closeted-old- queen of Canterbury has behaved in this way? Although it is the case that religious faith is a mental illness, there are various degrees of such illness. Desmond Tutu, who is certainly not homophobic. suffers less from it than does Old Betty Williams.
Rowan Williams is a spineless coward and a bigot. Time to abolish state funded religion. I object to my taxes proppping up a homophobic, bigoted, hypocritical institution. Do religious denominations pay any taxes? If they don’t, then lets start taxing them, heavily.
Rowen Williams would sell his children into slavery rather than split the communion. The fact that he is appeasing bigots isn’t an issue to him, the communion’s the thing.Eventually it eill all fall apart and the richer churches will leave the witch doctors of Africa to scrabble with the fundies
What a “charming” religion!Nothing but a vile, cruel and nasty bunch of bigots who wouldn’t recognise Jesus Christ if they tried.Thank God I’ve left the vile cult for something more loving and accepting – Liberal Judaism!
I am 16 and gay. i have always admired the anglican church – despite being a devout wiccan – for some of its members open stance towards gay people. However, the actions of the cretin Williams revoke all spirit of admiration i may previously have held.In this day and age, i am surprised that ones sexuality can legally be a reason to devoid a person of the right to attend, for example, a Lambeth conference.Christians [some, anyway - the ones in charge] appear to have forgotten – or conveniently ignored – that nowhere in the bible is being gay condemned. NOWHERE. On the contrary, it is filled with injunctions against shaving, and menstruating, and bling people in church! These are sensibly ignored, as thy are 2000 years out of context. So heres the rub – SO IS ANYTHING PERTAINING TO LOVE AND SEX!!!!!I would urge Rowan williams to either embrace the true spirit of the times, or step aside for one who is prapared to do so.
Sethat 16 you’re old enough to learn that there are hypocrites in the world, who will mouth the words of peace and tolerance while stabbing you in the back.Despite everything that has happened over the last 40 years since the 67 Act there are still so many people who see LGBT people as less than human. It has got a lot better but there is further to go.Trust those you love; also learn who else you can trust – you will find LGBT people everywhere who will look out for you.Sorry if this is a bit of a downer,
Seth there is one scant, arguably questionable reference in Leviticus wherein it states that man shall not lie down with man as he does with a woman. However, you are right about the rest of what you say. I always use the following website when it comes to biblical references, most of which condemn straights and the way they conduct their lives. You would do well to use it as a resource so you can arm yourself against the bigotry, hypocrisy and doublestandards praticed by all the major christian denominations, among others. http://www.fallwell.com.Rowan Williams is a spineless coward and a hypocrite as is the Cardinal Archbishop of Westminster. I wouldn’t mind betting there are gay skeletons in their closets. We have to be on our guard too because they will do anything to overturn any equality laws that we have gained thus far. Don’t ever be lulled into a false sense of security. There are many people in our country who would like nothing more than to roll back legislation under the guise of religion. Be vigilant, always!