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  1. peterrivendell 25 Aug 2006, 5:01pm

    Right everyone! Back in the closet. We’re clearly nothing but a disgrace and an embarassment to ourselves.What a load of gay-hating nonsense.

  2. Does it ever get more embarrasing than Grew? His latest nonsense: “…Americans have taken to British humour for the first time since Monty Python, and we should all be proud that our comedy is being appreciated once again”Doesn’t he know that British hit comedies have repeatedly taken US TV audiences by storm? Only a minute ago it was The Office (it won a Golden Globe, and would have won two Emmys but for the series rules). Ab Fab brought the house down. It goes on and on. What is the point in reading Grew? He just doesn’t bother to check his facts.

  3. First broadcast in 1957, the Black and White Minstrel Show was intended as good clean family fun. But it was born into a changing world, airing at the same time as the 1958 Notting Hill riots – some of the worst racial violence the country had ever known.Little Britain has also been branded as a good clean family fun for television.Gay TV presenter Graham Norton is fed up with being forced to constantly make overt references to his sexuality, he tells a BBC documentary. He complains on the BBC3 programme, The Trouble With . . .Gay Men, that he is forced to make gay jokes and innuendos by straight producers.If Little Britain was to make a joke out of black people it would land the BBC in all sorts of trouble. So why is it ok, to make a joke of gay people? I can see a day in the future when Little Britain gets banned like the Black and White Minstrel Show was banned in the past!

  4. It seems I’m not “the only gay in the village” whos’ toes curl up everytime he sees cringe-worthy shows like “Queer eye for the straight guy” and “Little britain”. Thank **** for that.

  5. peterrivendell 28 Aug 2006, 11:18am

    The Black and White Minstrels did not make a joke about black people. The Minstrels was an homage to a musical tradition, which was relatively unintentionally racist [certainly by the 1960s] and with time became unacceptable.The gay community as a whole never accepts gay characters on TV – Will Grace is equally loathed. We are equally embarrased by Elton John, George Michael, Dale Winton, Julian Clary, Danny La Rue, John Inman etc. etc.Our respresentation has been appalling in the past, and we are still under-represented but the fact is that we are still ashamed and embarrassed when we see ourselves on television – we are still self-hating in that respect.Ultimately, I think we fear that when we see the camp nelly on the telly – that that is how others see us…And as for Graham Norton – he established himself with a camp style full of innuendo – there are many gay TV presenters who are not pressured into camping it up and do not do so – Simon Amstell, Kristian Digby, Evan Davis, Alistair Appleton and probably many more we don’t know about.

  6. Oh I get it. So fine if the elite educated people who have a deeper understanding of gay life- whatever that means- watch it on BBC3, but not OK if the white van man ( and what kind of snotty generalisation is that) likes it. What snobby hogwash. I am sure Matt Lucas is very happy to be amusing the supposed thick masses. Good on him. Remember people who sell out have something that people actually want to buy!

  7. While the article itself engages in stereotyping e.g. the “white van man” and “some Tristram in a Soho ad agency with a ten pound note up his nose”, I do think that Tony Grew makes some good points here. Gay people are still stereotyped in the media as camp comedy characters, and while we are a more tolerant society than we were 30 years ago, this doesn’t apply to all of us. The point about Little Britain is that it can be responded to in a range of different ways. I wouldn’t necessarily ban it, but I would hope that people could be made more aware about its complex relationship to homophobia – which is what this article tries to do.

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